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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:11:00 -
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Tokclik wrote: The precedence this sets is awesome. There is only one outcome that can come from this. The next time the Jewcabal finds a loophole they will run it on a scale many orders of magnitude greater than this little escapade, definitely not tell CCP about it, and come as close to destroying the Eve economy for a very long time.
And presumably use NPC alts.
Or Eve University alts.... Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Enaris Kerle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:12:00 -
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Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. I think it's very fitting that you bring out that analogy, because all of that **** that goes on at airports these days is security theater, just like what happens here. Gallente born and raised, and tutored as a pleasure slave and courtesan to the exotic tastes of the Amarri court. Jade's career veered violently off course when a diplomatic envoy's transport was blown to pieces in mysterious circumstances and she was rescued from the escape pods by the enigmatic genetic mastermind Athule Snanm. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:13:00 -
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Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. What an unpatriotic thing to say. You must be a terrorist. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4134
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:13:00 -
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Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports.
No one from Goldman Sachs went to prison. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
asd3452
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:14:00 -
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Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports.
Wait, do you actually think airports are more secure now? |
Droxlyn
TOHA Heavy Industries TOHA Conglomerate
86
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:15:00 -
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Almost makes these comics look prescient: http://trenchescomic.com/comic/post/raiment through http://trenchescomic.com/comic/post/parallel |
Tokclik
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:15:00 -
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Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports.
Making a comparison between someone who helped kill thousands and someone who found a loophole in a videogame is moronic.
A better comparison is the best people in IT security all started out as hackers and respect the up and coming hackers teaching them new things. |
Fix Lag
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:16:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. What an unpatriotic thing to say. You must be a terrorist.
Anally probe him to assess his threat level.
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Paint
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. No one from Goldman Sachs went to prison.
And they still have their ill gotten gains.
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asd3452
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:17:00 -
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Tokclik wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Making a comparison between someone who helped kill thousands and someone who found a loophole in a videogame is moronic. A better comparison is the best people in IT security all started out as hackers and respect the up and coming hackers teaching them new things.
A better example would be a Farmer selling Strawberries for $2 less than the local store, and me telling the farmer this, and him not changing the price. Then, I buy all his strawberries and he hits me with a shovel. CCP is the angry dumb farmer with a shovel. |
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Inspiration
Focused Radical Energy Engineering
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:17:00 -
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asd3452 wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Wait, do you actually think airports are more secure now?
Well, the people traveling trough it certainly are not more safe. The chance of your butt crack getting opened is many times higher, and given that who cares about terrorists!
I cannot speak for the buildings however! |
Paint
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:17:00 -
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asd3452 wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Wait, do you actually think airports are more secure now?
Well checking out all the hot chicks through the nude viewer does have its perks.
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
248
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:18:00 -
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why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:18:00 -
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Tokclik wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Making a comparison between someone who helped kill thousands and someone who found a loophole in a videogame is moronic. A better comparison is the best people in IT security all started out as hackers and respect the up and coming hackers teaching them new things.
Not that much moronic as failing on twitter in operation of this scale. |
Kalzin Maya
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:18:00 -
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Goon Behavior: Lets take advantage of a loophole to get rich, than to prevent others from doing the same after we get rich by telling CCP....
Good Behavior: Hey CCP we think this is a loophole, we would like to work with you to show how we think this will pan out.... |
Lord Zim
913
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:18:00 -
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Inspiration wrote:asd3452 wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Wait, do you actually think airports are more secure now? Well, the people traveling trough it certainly are not more safe. The chance of your butt crack getting opened is many times higher, and given that who cares about terrorists! I cannot speak for the buildings however! them evil buttcracks, always hiding them evil terrorists. |
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:20:00 -
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Goon Tears Best Tears.
Thanks for an entertaining hour from Bleet Fleet.
Testing a bug is fine. Continuing to benefit using that bug is not. There was a way to get more then one pilot training on an account a few years ago. When I found out about it I tested it to confirm it was repeatable. Then I STOPPED training on one of the pilots so I was not abusing the bug. Then filed a bug report.
Goons found a bug. LP for no destructed cargo. Then continued to take advantage of that bug, KNOWING it was not intended. This is called an Exploit. While this bug does not encompass the entire issue it is a part of an already questionable act.
CCP may have overreacted, CCP may change their actions (up or down). It is CCP's game, and if you **** with it they are within their rights to do as they wish.
I like the smugness of the OP and now the, as Bleet Fleet would say, "butthurt" cries of the children who now have to pay for being stupid.
Fallout is one fo the funnest parts of Eve for me. Sure, this is not going to approach the level of entertainment that Incarna was but still. Watching Goon's cry is always fun.
Oh, BTW. None of this effected me in the least, eccpet for the Gonnie tears. Have yet another glass full. (only becuase I don't have a 50 gallon drum on hand to collect more. )
Have Fun, Fly Safe |
Paint
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:20:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything
Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob.
If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help.
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asd3452
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:23:00 -
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Paint wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob. If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help.
CCP also did nothing about the trillions (with a 'T') isk worth of profit BoB and their CCP allies made off the BPOs, 'player' events, etc. |
Stevens
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:23:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything
Can you give an example of this? |
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Fix Lag
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:24:00 -
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Ashina Sito wrote: Goons found a bug. LP for no destructed cargo. Then continued to take advantage of that bug, KNOWING it was not intended. This is called an Exploit. While this bug does not encompass the entire issue it is a part of an already questionable act.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
No wonder you'll always be spacepoor |
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:24:00 -
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double post |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
366
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:24:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything
I know people might not believe me. But no, I really did expect to be allowed to keep it. This was well within what I consider the boundaries of the game. Many people agree, this is EVE. |
Paint
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:26:00 -
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asd3452 wrote:Paint wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob. If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help. CCP also did nothing about the trillions (with a 'T') isk worth of profit BoB and their CCP allies made off the BPOs, 'player' events, etc.
True they never took away all the motherships that Bob/some others exploited out of the those events before they sacked all those player gms either did they. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
537
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:27:00 -
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Aryth wrote:It's more than that. To justify seizing everything, and even assets unreleated to FW, they have to be saying, using their own game mechanics, and the design they were repeatedly told was bad, is an exploit. That is what is so chilling about it.
This isn't the CCP of 2 years ago. Sonyfied CCP is not the CCP we know and love. They are something different now. It wasn't until it hit PCGamer they took actoin.
The CCP of 2 years ago couldn't pay it's bank loan.
The Dude wrote:Yes, Walter, you're right. There is an unspoken message here. It's "**** YOU" We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
469
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:28:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything I know people might not believe me. But I really did expect to be allowed to keep it. This was well within what I consider the boundaries of the game. Many people agree, this is EVE.
Indeed. "Manipulate a market?" Check, legit action. Gain LP from FW? Check, a legit action. Combine them both? Should be legit in the sandbox, CCP says no! Or maybe Sony says no? Who knows. Eve has changed. CCP no longer respects its sandbox. Thanks, Sony. |
Lord Zim
913
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:30:00 -
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Paint wrote:asd3452 wrote:Paint wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob. If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help. CCP also did nothing about the trillions (with a 'T') isk worth of profit BoB and their CCP allies made off the BPOs, 'player' events, etc. True they never took away all the motherships that Bob/some others exploited out of the those events before they sacked all those player gms either did they. And they didn't do squat about the billions of units of nocx made from PA either, when we notified them of the problem. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
370
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:30:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Aryth wrote:It's more than that. To justify seizing everything, and even assets unreleated to FW, they have to be saying, using their own game mechanics, and the design they were repeatedly told was bad, is an exploit. That is what is so chilling about it.
This isn't the CCP of 2 years ago. Sonyfied CCP is not the CCP we know and love. They are something different now. It wasn't until it hit PCGamer they took actoin. The CCP of 2 years ago couldn't pay it's bank loan. The Dude wrote:Yes, Walter, you're right. There is an unspoken message here. It's "**** YOU"
Are you saying they sold out? |
Preceptor Stigmartyr
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:30:00 -
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asd3452 wrote:Tokclik wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Making a comparison between someone who helped kill thousands and someone who found a loophole in a videogame is moronic. A better comparison is the best people in IT security all started out as hackers and respect the up and coming hackers teaching them new things. A better example would be a Farmer selling Strawberries for $2 less than the local store, and me telling the farmer this, and him not changing the price. Then, I buy all his strawberries and he hits me with a shovel. CCP is the angry dumb farmer with a shovel.
Has anyone considered that Goons just get a wild kick out of watching people get groped in a conga line? |
Sven Hammerstorm
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:32:00 -
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It is pretty clear that next time someone finds something like this, the last thing they should do is to try help and tell ccp. Ironic isnt it :P |
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