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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1355
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:46:00 -
[181] - Quote
You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Roxwar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
77
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:46:00 -
[182] - Quote
After reading the actual post and seeing the screenies ect of the final fat wallet amounts, i decided to see how much 'real money' the total made comes out to roughly.
Based on it costing -ú22 per 1b if bought via 60day GTC, Those magnificent goons are sitting on approx -ú7,744,000 worth of isk if bought with GTC's. Thats right, thats 7.75 MILLION POUNDS worth of internet spaceship money. or approx 11.6 million dollars .
However you look at this, be that for or against, you have to admit, only in EVE can something like this happen, and thats why i love this game.
I tip my hat to all you goon geeks that came up with this scheme, bravo fine sirs, BRAVO. http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
456
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:46:00 -
[183] - Quote
CCP Sreegs wrote:Ituhata Saken wrote:Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons,
At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy.
By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch.
LOL
Tal
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2568
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:47:00 -
[184] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:I read their document a couple of nights ago You "read our document", eh? A few days ago, eh? I guess that means you didn't actually make 8.7b, then, since that document was literally released 1 hour ago.
Lots of us made billions, regardless of whether we knew about the manipulation or not.
Every Minmatar that had saved up their millions of LP cashed out gloriously, albeit not on the scale of the manipulators. 8.7 billion is completely feasible given the opportunity that opened up.
BTW, thanks for releasing the info and removing the artificial prop-up. You wouldn't believe how I excited I am that the Amarr have less to complain about now, this severely cuts into the "Boo-hoo minnies are steamrolling us the system is so unfair". I'd much rather have the warzone control based on the fighting merit of the two militias.
If Tier 5 is indeed much more difficult to obtain, even with all the systems held by the Minmatar militia, we'll know here pretty soon, and it will mean the system is much less conducive to "snowballing" as the "losing" factions have complained about. If we are able to hit Tier 5 again, than it nukes the 3p33n claim that we only could ever achieve Tier 5 with Goon support. Either way its a win-win.
You just made my life a lot easier - maybe not that of my militia, of course, but for me personally who's job it is to monitor the state of the warzone and assess the functionality and balance of the mechanics. You've cut through the noise quite a bit by allowing the war to just play itself out, without the skewed manipulation effort.
This also means the Amarr are more likely to invest in actually winning their own war, instead of simply throwing alts into the Minnie militia to sip at our juice-fountain, if the days of the Tier 5 spike have come to a close for a while. Nicely done. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Jolan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
4
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:47:00 -
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C-C-P
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG'D
You boyz just got karttoon'd |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3601
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:48:00 -
[186] - Quote
let me reiterate that aryth tweeted the secret documents to everybody never has a man so smug been brought so low |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
170
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:48:00 -
[187] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:That means you guys were amongst the last to know ... thats actually quite funny. I'm actually 100% certain you're 100% full of ****. But again, please do keep on pouring on the damage control, you're pretty bad at it. https://twitter.com/EVEAryth/status/215233678631116801any comments? ...it was aryth aryth tweeted the secret documents oh god this is even funnier than the lp
I am so bad at twitter.
And the really crappy part. She told me to go fish |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
929
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:49:00 -
[188] - Quote
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:This is like when the Villain in the movie spends so much time broadcasting his success it leads to his downfall.
You uh, missed the part where we told CCP about all this ourselves, right? |
Crest Cutty
The Country Club Crest
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:49:00 -
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I hope who ever QC'd the release and the mechanics that were subsequently manipulated loses their job. This is a screw-up on a scale that is beyond belief.
I can't just go up to my client and say "dang, I'm sorry I didn't properly word that provision to protect your overseas intellectual property and now you're out a couple million. Sorry, my bad." No, I'd get sued and lose my job.
And you can't just take back the isk or make it disappear. It is complete bs and goes against every that made eve, well EVE. You screwed the pooch royally on this one, and as much as I hate goonies they just outplayed you AT YOUR OWN GAME!!!
Rage rage rage, rage rage, rage rage rage! Rage rage, tears, rage? RAGE!!!!!!
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2403
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:49:00 -
[190] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V
If by "sources" you mean "follows twiiter leaks" then lol :)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
418
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[191] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V No source in GSF leadership. Aryth merely does not know how to use Twitter. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
170
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[192] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:I read their document a couple of nights ago You "read our document", eh? A few days ago, eh? I guess that means you didn't actually make 8.7b, then, since that document was literally released 1 hour ago. Lots of us made billions, regardless of whether we knew about the manipulation or not. Every Minmatar that had saved up their millions of LP cashed out gloriously, albeit not on the scale of the manipulators. 8.7 billion is completely feasible given the opportunity that opened up. BTW, thanks for releasing the info and removing the artificial prop-up. You wouldn't believe how I excited I am that the Amarr have less to complain about now, this severely cuts into the "Boo-hoo minnies are steamrolling us the system is so unfair". I'd much rather have the warzone control based on the fighting merit of the two militias. If Tier 5 is indeed much more difficult to obtain, even with all the systems held by the Minmatar militia, we'll know here pretty soon, and it will mean the system is much less conducive to "snowballing" as the "losing" factions have complained about. If we are able to hit Tier 5 again, than it nukes the 3p33n claim that we only could ever achieve Tier 5 with Goon support. Either way its a win-win. You just made my life a lot easier - maybe not that of my militia, of course, but for me personally who's job it is to monitor the state of the warzone and assess the functionality and balance of the mechanics. You've cut through the noise quite a bit by allowing the war to just play itself out, without the skewed manipulation effort. This also means the Amarr are more likely to invest in actually winning their own war, instead of simply throwing alts into the Minnie militia to sip at our juice-fountain, if the days of the Tier 5 spike have come to a close for a while. Nicely done.
I would strongly suggest, that if you want to hit T5 again. You do it before Amarr grind down the fortress. You guys are still benefiting a great deal from our work. Once they grind down all your 5'ed systems, it's probably game over for you. |
Uyeiu
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[193] - Quote
CCP Sreegs wrote:Ituhata Saken wrote:Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons,
At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy.
By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch. No one believes you. You guys weren't smart enough to find the hole before release. You weren't smart enough to find the abuse without a tip off. You weren't smart enough to listen to all the warnings you were given in advance. You aren't smart enough to pull it all back (you can be sure they thought about how to hide it all). Chalk up another win for Goons Online. |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
177
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[194] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V Like i've been telling people for the longest time, the whole Jadespiracy thing was actually a plan launched by Jade in conjunction with GSF upper leadership to get war dec changes to happen. They originally intended for the changes to unfold naturally via WRC, but after he left the game they turned to Jade to artificially generate the controversy, but Jade took things too far and GSF decided they needed to distance themselves from Jade.
tl;dr Jade is on the GSF payroll as one of their agents.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[195] - Quote
I found a poet.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only. |
idlemachinery
The Western District Way I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[196] - Quote
darius why are you so completely fletched about getting rick rolled
less tears please |
Xeross155
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:50:00 -
[197] - Quote
Crest Cutty wrote:I hope who ever QC'd the release and the mechanics that were subsequently manipulated loses their job. This is a screw-up on a scale that is beyond belief.
I can't just go up to my client and say "dang, I'm sorry I didn't properly word that provision to protect your overseas intellectual property and now you're out a couple million. Sorry, my bad." No, I'd get sued and lose my job.
And you can't just take back the isk or make it disappear. It is complete bs and goes against every that made eve, well EVE. You screwed the pooch royally on this one, and as much as I hate goonies they just outplayed you AT YOUR OWN GAME!!!
Rage rage rage, rage rage, rage rage rage! Rage rage, tears, rage? RAGE!!!!!!
Except this is a game, and a non-existent currency. So your comparison is incorrect. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
170
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:51:00 -
[198] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V If by "sources" you mean "follows twiiter leaks" then lol :)
I signed up to twitter only to tweet diagoras. I am ignorant at twitter. My shamecube is now a hypershamecube. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
418
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:52:00 -
[199] - Quote
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:I read their document a couple of nights ago You "read our document", eh? A few days ago, eh? I guess that means you didn't actually make 8.7b, then, since that document was literally released 1 hour ago. Lots of us made billions, regardless of whether we knew about the manipulation or not. Every Minmatar that had saved up their millions of LP cashed out gloriously, albeit not on the scale of the manipulators. 8.7 billion is completely feasible given the opportunity that opened up. BTW, thanks for releasing the info and removing the artificial prop-up. You wouldn't believe how I excited I am that the Amarr have less to complain about now, this severely cuts into the "Boo-hoo minnies are steamrolling us the system is so unfair". I'd much rather have the warzone control based on the fighting merit of the two militias. If Tier 5 is indeed much more difficult to obtain, even with all the systems held by the Minmatar militia, we'll know here pretty soon, and it will mean the system is much less conducive to "snowballing" as the "losing" factions have complained about. If we are able to hit Tier 5 again, than it nukes the 3p33n claim that we only could ever achieve Tier 5 with Goon support. Either way its a win-win. You just made my life a lot easier - maybe not that of my militia, of course, but for me personally who's job it is to monitor the state of the warzone and assess the functionality and balance of the mechanics. You've cut through the noise quite a bit by allowing the war to just play itself out, without the skewed manipulation effort. This also means the Amarr are more likely to invest in actually winning their own war, instead of simply throwing alts into the Minnie militia to sip at our juice-fountain, if the days of the Tier 5 spike have come to a close for a while. Nicely done.
We didn't want Tier 5 for this very reason - we know that lots of people who would jump in on it. But we got a little overzealous donating LP and got you guys within 20 points or less, and I guess ya'll did the rest.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3601
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:52:00 -
[200] - Quote
seriously i was leakhunting with the timeline jade gave us and then someone linked the twitter and I've been nearly crying with laughter at work for like fifteen minutes |
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Pisov viet
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
56
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:53:00 -
[201] - Quote
Quote: I would strongly suggest, that if you want to hit T5 again. You do it before Amarr grind down the fortress. You guys are still benefiting a great deal from our work. Once they grind down all your 5'ed systems, it's probably game over for you
Confirming this. If nothing else change, minmatar will hold 56 systems after tomorrow's DT, which, once upgraded, will get them just enough to get in T5, maybe one last time before amarr starts ******* them up. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
249
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:54:00 -
[202] - Quote
Pr1ncess Alia wrote: -laugh at the terribad minmatar for flying around looking for pew instead of doing really cool smart stuff like violating the EULA drawing CCP's attention and ire? CHECK
[Citation needed]
Also, I'm betting you didn't actually read the whole thing nor understand how it works (worked). Good work with that. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2404
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:55:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Weaselior wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:That means you guys were amongst the last to know ... thats actually quite funny. I'm actually 100% certain you're 100% full of ****. But again, please do keep on pouring on the damage control, you're pretty bad at it. https://twitter.com/EVEAryth/status/215233678631116801any comments? ...it was aryth aryth tweeted the secret documents oh god this is even funnier than the lp I am so bad at twitter. And the really crappy part. She told me to go fish
Well I guess the good thing for you guys is it did at least look like you were trying to report the issue before it went nuts.
http://www.mordante.aquiss.com/BreakFW.jpg
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
390
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:55:00 -
[204] - Quote
Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
929
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:56:00 -
[205] - Quote
Mabego Tetrimon wrote:So if you Goons came out BEFORE CCP find out about your cheatings, i would be impressed. Now. Not so much, another round of cheaters will bite the dust.
So this is the new forum meme? First It was GoonCP, now it's "Goons admitted everything after being caught?"
Did you not read the part where we told CCP about the imbalance in the change they made to the market? |
Rek Esket
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
[206] - Quote
Crest Cutty wrote:[...] and as much as I hate goonies they just outplayed you AT YOUR OWN GAME!!!
If you've been playing EVE for long, you'd realize that this is actually a fairly frequent occurrence.
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Maggie Maggie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
[207] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
Gotcha moniez. |
abitrubbish
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
[208] - Quote
Crest Cutty wrote:...I can't just go up to my client and say "dang, I'm sorry I didn't properly word that provision to protect your overseas intellectual property and now you're out a couple million. Sorry, my bad." No, I'd get sued and lose my job...
You realise that this is only a game?
+rep for having such a high flying job |
Xeross155
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
[209] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
CCP messed up new FW mechanics, Goons exploited for trillions if not quadrillions of profit ISK. And billions of LP |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
811
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
[210] - Quote
Crest Cutty wrote:I hope who ever QC'd the release and the mechanics that were subsequently manipulated loses their job. This is a screw-up on a scale that is beyond belief.
I can't just go up to my client and say "dang, I'm sorry I didn't properly word that provision to protect your overseas intellectual property and now you're out a couple million. Sorry, my bad." No, I'd get sued and lose my job.
And you can't just take back the isk or make it disappear. It is complete bs and goes against every that made eve, well EVE. You screwed the pooch royally on this one, and as much as I hate goonies they just outplayed you AT YOUR OWN GAME!!!
Rage rage rage, rage rage, rage rage rage! Rage rage, tears, rage? RAGE!!!!!!
Problem is, its wasn't really bad unless you calculated in goons pouring their resources into it.
Planning around the massive resources they can direct would kinda destroy anyone elses ability to do smaller scale market manipulation(and market manipulation has ALWAYS been kosher in this game) Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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