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Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:28:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Lexmana wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:If that were true, I'd expect they'd say, "Oh, and here, you should probably take back these LP's we gained because in the hands of a villain, they may then try to dominate the market with it and that'd given them an unfair advantage", instead of "hell yeah, WE B SPACE RICH!! TO THE FORUMS TO GLOAT!!!" Nothing wrong trying to make a living helping CCP with game design. The goons did this one good me think. But maybe they tried to get away with to much. And why wouldn't you brag if you made 5 trillion ISK? We are not making any attempt to hide the fact we wanted to profit. I don't believe profit and keeping the game sane are mutually exclusive.
Aryth wrote: No. I purposely told CCP, frantically you could say. Where I screwed up is, well I am bad at twitter as I only have twitter to ask Diagoras for stats. I didn't realize it's public if I sent something to Punkturis. Whoops.
And this is what I personally take issue with. You knew all along it was an error/bug/bad code/bad design (note where you "frantically" went to tell CCP Punkturis about this horrible error) and yet set out to make profit from it. And that is exactly what CCP said would be ban worthy.
Am I missing something here? |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:28:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Carlos Aranda wrote: . Others also have of course ship reimbursement programs. In other words, the wealth does not reach the average Goon. Where is that money?
Anyway here's the fairest punishment for those 5 guys: 2 years of obligatory work in CCP as coders and QA testers.
I think CSM or "in the know" positions would be the worst thing imaginable. The reason I like EVE is the ability to conduct large scale manipulations (Interdiction/BurnJita/This/Minerals) or to speculate on patches (PI/POCO/Minerals again/Datacores etc) The CSM essentially surrenders their right to trade/manip/spec on patches for being in the know. I would consider it torture to be "in the know" and not be able to use the information. Since it means I would no longer be able to play EVE in the way I always have.
PS. Edit. Of course. I guess at a certain point, enough is enough eh. ISK wise. Though I am still not sure what that point is. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:31:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:Aryth wrote:Lexmana wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:If that were true, I'd expect they'd say, "Oh, and here, you should probably take back these LP's we gained because in the hands of a villain, they may then try to dominate the market with it and that'd given them an unfair advantage", instead of "hell yeah, WE B SPACE RICH!! TO THE FORUMS TO GLOAT!!!" Nothing wrong trying to make a living helping CCP with game design. The goons did this one good me think. But maybe they tried to get away with to much. And why wouldn't you brag if you made 5 trillion ISK? We are not making any attempt to hide the fact we wanted to profit. I don't believe profit and keeping the game sane are mutually exclusive. Aryth wrote: No. I purposely told CCP, frantically you could say. Where I screwed up is, well I am bad at twitter as I only have twitter to ask Diagoras for stats. I didn't realize it's public if I sent something to Punkturis. Whoops.
And this is what I personally take issue with. You knew all along it was an error/bug/bad code/bad design (note where you "frantically" went to tell CCP Punkturis about this horrible error) and yet set out to make profit from it. And that is exactly what CCP said would be ban worthy. Am I missing something here?
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not. |
Oisin Sandovar
Don't Die Interstellar Enterprises
16
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:35:00 -
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Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not. In other words, you didn't want anyone else profiting too. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:38:00 -
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Oisin Sandovar wrote:Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not. In other words, you didn't want anyone else profiting too.
Yes. This is true. There is a certain point where it would have done long term damage to the LP markets. 5 guys cranking out is limited in scope. 100 or 1000 guys doing it...not so much.
But I will readily admit I don't want to share the markets with others. I want max profit, that means carefully managing the very fields we tilled. I don't see anything wrong with this at all. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
492
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:39:00 -
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Oisin Sandovar wrote:Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not. In other words, you didn't want anyone else profiting too. Basically.....
It's bad for the game if *everyone* does it...
You know there's something fundamentally wrong when the only way people can think of to promote the "best" part of the game is to make everything else suck more. |
Gul'gotha Derv'ash
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Li3 Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:39:00 -
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Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
So because you are goons you feel entitled to be allowed to exploit a game mechanic with no repercussions, and you claim it is "ok" to do because you "frantically" tried to report it all the while continuing doing the thing you had been reporting as a bug/exploit/etc?
And again, the only reason you even posted this thread and probably alerted CCP was because you leaked it on accident.
Your logic is mind boggling... |
White Carnation
SYNDIC Unlimited
1
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:41:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:White Carnation wrote:Then, when somneone bottoms out the datacore market, we get r*yally scr*wed.
Goons, how about sum luv (and a couple bill ISK each) for the poor victims of your market manipulation. Look at it as spreading the wealth, which wilkl all come back to you viia the technetium monopoly after much discussion, we have decided to honour your request, however, we will not give you ISK, but advice never have all of your eggs in the same basket
Thank you -- I didn't.
I still got unknowingly spanked. Now, if you'd *told* us what you were doing ...
Anyway, if you ever *want* some Mech Eng datacores, I will do you a good deal -- say 10% below Jita, and you throw in a free Dramiel, which word has it you're overloaded with. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:41:00 -
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Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
You: A handful of people getting tons of profit off a design flaw is healthy for the game.
Interesting. Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Tallon Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:41:00 -
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All you pubbies must be sick of Goons winning at Eve Online like every other damn day.
Goons win at Tech Wars. The pubbie cry; Quick, nerf Tech!
Goons win at market manipulation; Quick, ban these guys for being smarter thanus (and CCP)!
Maybe you should all just get better at Eve and quit complaining huh. |
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
392
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:42:00 -
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Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem.
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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
392
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:43:00 -
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Tallon Sylph wrote:All you pubbies must be sick of Goons winning at Eve Online like every other damn day.
Nope. Not me, anyway. If I'm sick of anything it's your constant self-congratulation. |
Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
146
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:44:00 -
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AHA...Finally made it through all the slog.
Well done. Smart people doing smart things and actually having enough resources/alts/friends to pull it off.
(Be back in VFK soon, while I got podded back to empire I had some more business to attend)
You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
824
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:44:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:Meno Theaetetus wrote:
I very much doubt CCP want to send out the message that although this is a sandbox, market manipulation, because that was what this was, is only allowed to go as far as to make you a little bit of money, make a lot and you're 'exploiting' the system.
I don't think anyone thinks the exploit happened in the market; the exploit happened in getting LP's. If it wasn't "wrong" or "a bug", then why would they even bother reporting it to CCP in the first place? If they really believed what they were doing was legit, they'd still be doing it and you can bet you wouldn't hear it from them. What they did was grab up as much as they thought they could get away with. "Ohhh, CCP, it's no biggie, right? It's just 5tril worth of ISK. It's a drop in the bucket. You made a bad call, we exploited it, lets just call it a wash and go about our space business." EVE has always been a realm where you could exploit stupid mechanics like this for as long as they exist, as long as it wasn't a bug, and the devs had not declared it an exploit.
Go try it, its alot of fun to feel that rush from knowing you outsmarted a dev. If its not a bug, and its not already declared an exploit, go nuts, have fun, and walk away space rich.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that we are in this game to ruthlessly exploit any advantage we can gain over everyone else? Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Tallon Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:45:00 -
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We can stop congratulating ourselves when we stop winning.
So never basically, given how awful you all are at this game. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:45:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem.
This is much more explanatory than my post.
Seconded. Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:46:00 -
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Tallon Sylph wrote:We can stop congratulating ourselves when we stop winning.
So never basically, given how awful you all are at this game.
You seem pretty upset. Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
824
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:47:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. A few people doing it isn't gonna break the game. 1000 doing it will.
Are you so thick that you can't understand that? Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:54:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. A few people doing it isn't gonna break the game. 1000 doing it will. Are you so thick that you can't understand that?
It's ok, my son. I will explain.
Your first mistake is not reading the post Ban Bindy quoted.
Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Aryth said "one is healthy for the game, the other is not."
So Aryth said two things:
- What we (the 5), are doing is healthy for the game. - If everyone did what we did, it wouldn't be healthy for the game.
This is incorrect.
What he did is NOT healthy for the game either. What he should've said is:
"One is unhealthy for the game, the other is even more unhealthy for the game. What we did is the better of the two evils."
But this is still hypocrisy because they could have reported the design flaw to CCP as soon as they found it. Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
475
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:54:00 -
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Tallon Sylph wrote:All you pubbies must be sick of Goons winning at Eve Online like every other damn day.
Goons win at Tech Wars. The pubbie cry; Quick, nerf Tech!
Goons win at market manipulation; Quick, ban these guys for being smarter thanus (and CCP)!
Maybe you should all just get better at Eve and quit complaining huh.
You mean we should all manipulate Eve in a way that it shouldn't have been (give the guy who thought of it props for being a clever bloke but....) and take advantage of the poor distribution of a resource ?
Well if everyone was doing that, this game would be more "bad word" (save the forums replacing it) than it already is.
Quick lets all be good at EvE by breaking it
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:55:00 -
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Private Pineapple wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. This is much more explanatory than my post. Seconded.
This is always the case of first mover. Others are claiming they knew, yet they did not report it to CCP. We did. We had a goal, we met the goal, we told CCP before others could dogpile. First movers. Of course it's self serving. But I don't see anyone else lining up with detailed explanations to CCP either, or proof it works. We cashed in, notified CCP. Done.
What we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources. |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:58:00 -
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Private Pineapple wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. A few people doing it isn't gonna break the game. 1000 doing it will. Are you so thick that you can't understand that? It's ok, my son. I will explain. Your first mistake is not reading the post Ban Bindy quoted. Aryth wrote:It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not. Aryth said "one is healthy for the game, the other is not." So Aryth said two things: - What we (the 5), are doing is healthy for the game. - If everyone did what we did, it wouldn't be healthy for the game. This is incorrect. What he did is NOT healthy for the game either. What he should've said is: "One is unhealthy for the game, the other is even more unhealthy for the game. What we did is the better of the two evils." But this is still hypocrisy because they could have reported the design flaw to CCP as soon as they found it.
As has been stated earlier in the thread. This was pointed out by others to CCP in their design thread. They knew. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:58:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Private Pineapple wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. This is much more explanatory than my post. Seconded. This is always the case of first mover. Others are claiming they knew, yet they did not report it to CCP. We did. We had a goal, we met the goal, we told CCP before others could dogpile. First movers. Of course it's self serving. But I don't see anyone else lining up with detailed explanations to CCP either, or proof it works. We cashed in, notified CCP. Done. What we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources.
But you still think what you did is healthy for the game, when it would've been healthier for you to report it immediately and not make a profit off of it.
You are also incorrect about the first movers always making a self-serving act with a certain exploit, bug, flaw, whatever before reporting it. There have been cases before this incident and there will be more cases after this incident where the first movers simply reported it and did not do anything. Admit it, others have more integrity than you guys do. Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Lucius Serjanus
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:59:00 -
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Wow, awesome read! congrats guys............
can I have some isk? |
Better Than You
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.06.22 15:59:00 -
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The reason they reported the bug to CCP is because if they don't and everyone else gets in on the action, all the LP they made will become worthless.
It is like there is a foot race and goons found stashed in the bushes a bunch of sports cars that go 500 km/h. Instead of reporting the cars to CCP then, they instead decided to jump in one, zip ahead of everyone else for days, then hope out of the car and then tell CCP, "Yo there is these cars that could be used to speed through this race, you need to get rid of them." CCP destroys the cars, but what I want to know is:
Will CCP put the goons who used the one of the cars to gain an unfair advantage or leave them where they are after abusing a bug? |
Signal11th
535
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:00:00 -
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Private Pineapple wrote:Aryth wrote:Private Pineapple wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:Aryth wrote:
It was frantic because we felt others doing this was imminent. Leaks etc. It's one thing to have a very controlled profit taking with a handful of people It's quite another for EVE at large to figure things out and dogpile. One is healthy for the game, the other is not.
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem. This is much more explanatory than my post. Seconded. This is always the case of first mover. Others are claiming they knew, yet they did not report it to CCP. We did. We had a goal, we met the goal, we told CCP before others could dogpile. First movers. Of course it's self serving. But I don't see anyone else lining up with detailed explanations to CCP either, or proof it works. We cashed in, notified CCP. Done. What we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources. But you still think what you did is healthy for the game, when it would've been health ier for you to report it immediately and not make a profit off of it. You are also incorrect about the first movers always making a self-serving act with a certain exploit, bug, flaw, whatever before reporting it. There have been cases before this incident and there will still be more cases after this incident. Admit it, others have more integrity than you guys do.
Why should they? Are they paid by CCP to bug check ...no, Their profit is their reward for figuring it out. fair play to them. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:00:00 -
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It looks like an exploit to me. I would have not done it because I thought it was an exploit. I guess we will just see what CCP does. If they allow it then it creates an precedent, that to me would mean manipulate any rule to the full extent so long as the action is not explicitly banned. Unfortunately I doubt CCP will see this comment 60 odd pages. |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
109
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:01:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Private Pineapple wrote:Aryth wrote:Private Pineapple wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:
Now this is hypocrisy. It's okay if we do it but not if the game at large does it. Sure. What I do is always healthy for the game, it's the other guy that's the problem.
This is much more explanatory than my post. Seconded. This is always the case of first mover. Others are claiming they knew, yet they did not report it to CCP. We did. We had a goal, we met the goal, we told CCP before others could dogpile. First movers. Of course it's self serving. But I don't see anyone else lining up with detailed explanations to CCP either, or proof it works. We cashed in, notified CCP. Done. What we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources. But you still think what you did is healthy for the game, when it would've been health ier for you to report it immediately and not make a profit off of it. You are also incorrect about the first movers always making a self-serving act with a certain exploit, bug, flaw, whatever before reporting it. There have been cases before this incident and there will still be more cases after this incident. Admit it, others have more integrity than you guys do. Why should they? Are they paid by CCP to bug check ...no, Their profit is their reward for figuring it out. fair play to them.
Did you miss the word integrity? Zero risk, Great reward FW... yeah, FW needs to be balanced! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119886
Support Damen Apol's FW proposal! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119683 |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1402
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:01:00 -
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Aryth wrote:
What we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources.
... or the mindset.
I would never pour in that much :effort: in an operation where I can't cash out with RL money. ISK is lol till CCP will allow players RMT (probably never, and by seeing how bright they are, it's for their good being).
Edit:
Also, I am honest enough to be called stupid. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
558
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:02:00 -
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Sounds to me like this is a ban worth exploitation of a bug, dupping bug.
These guys saw an obviously unintentional error in the mechanics to the changes to FW that allowed them pretty much print LP. Similar to a dupping bug, they obviously set out to take full advantage of the exploit with out any intention of letting CCP know before it was way to late.
And now they want a pat on the back, for exploiting.
I remember a while back ago there was a similar bug, exploit that was in the game. It involved a POS and breaking the moon goo alchemy chain in such a way that you could create something from nothing. CCP nailed those guys hard accounts banned everything. I believe this is a similar situation and should probably have a similar result. |
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