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Mjabi
KIA Heavy Industries KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 07:42:00 -
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Ketch hasn't very eloquently put what has happened here. Afaik, Dasiho have never rented out space to ISK Farmers. They "skimmed" a large sum of money, around 40 billion I believe from an account that a close friend had access to. That account was, unfortunately for him, a Deposit account for a VERY large alliance that does rent out space to isk farmers. Most of the ISK in that account is from ISK farmers paying this very large allaince for rented space. CCP have assumed that Ketch bought the ISK he received from that account and as such banned his Titan Char and taken the Titan. By his own admission he skimmed the ISK of the top of the account, but claims to have never entered into any cash payment for the ISK. This is the skim story as far as I have understood it, I will not leave my opinion here, just wanted to clear up what has actually happened on behalf of my friends in Daisho, as their Alliance name shouldn't be muddied with accusations of ISK Farmer renting. Losing Ketch from game is a big hit for Daisho and indeed KIA, hes a quality player, a good FC and a inspiring leader for his troops. Hope you change your mind dude, and just for note, I feel you are making the wrong decision.
Will I now get my 1st forum warning?
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Vasili Z
Pyre of Gods
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Posted - 2008.08.18 07:43:00 -
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 07:54:00 -
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Why was the character banned? Why not just take the Titan that they suspect is bought with farmed ISK, I dont understand why they have banned the account.
Harsh Ketch, feel for you bud, but as Mjabi says, don't give up m8, Daisho needs you.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.08.18 07:58:00 -
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maybe has something to do with accessing accounts that don't belong to him and stealing isk from them ?
and that's supposed to be what clears his name ?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.08.18 07:59:00 -
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So he took isk from an account that wasnt his?
Sounds like another EULA violation to this pod pilot.
On a purely intelligence argument, did he not realize this might (just a little bit) look like an ISK purchase to ccp? ----------------- Friends Forever |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mjabi .. Will I now get my 1st forum warning?
NOOB! Real men has dozen of those under their belts.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk maybe has something to do with accessing accounts that don't belong to him and stealing isk from them ?
and that's supposed to be what clears his name ?
Since when has stealing isk from your corp been against the EULA Tyrrax, you of all people should know that. My understanding is that his friend stole it and gave it to him.
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7sunami
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:09:00 -
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which very large alliance was renting out space to isk farmers? Curious minds like to know :)
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Ketch Kan
Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:14:00 -
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Thank you for that m8 and I know Daisho needs me but I need a game where I can trust the GMs to do an honest objective job. The simple fact that the burden to prove my innocence is on me not the GMsÆ is just wrong they have all the tools I only have my wallet history and my word.
As you know our entire alliance put in to get that thing I was even willing to transfer Dinorryox to the alliance leader so the alliance didnÆt loose the titan because I got some of the isk from people I knew were a bit dodgy. CCP you can ban all my accounts but my alliance deserve what they worked so hard to get.
That said thanks for the support
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Why was the character banned? Why not just take the Titan that they suspect is bought with farmed ISK, I dont understand why they have banned the account.
Harsh Ketch, feel for you bud, but as Mjabi says, don't give up m8, Daisho needs you.
Meh, with all the EULA violations going on involving Nac there will be enough redtape to keep his accounts tied up for years. It's too bad though, he's always been good people.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:16:00 -
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If the guy that got banned isn't the one that did the logging onto the account that was stolen from then that's different..
's still pretty dubious tho since he obviously knew where the ISK was coming from and that his friend was logging onto an account that didn't belong to him to get it
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ketch Kan Thank you for that m8 and I know Daisho needs me but I need a game where I can trust the GMs to do an honest objective job. The simple fact that the burden to prove my innocence is on me not the GMsÆ is just wrong they have all the tools I only have my wallet history and my word.
As you know our entire alliance put in to get that thing I was even willing to transfer Dinorryox to the alliance leader so the alliance didnÆt loose the titan because I got some of the isk from people I knew were a bit dodgy. CCP you can ban all my accounts but my alliance deserve what they worked so hard to get.
That said thanks for the support
So the Alliance didn't get refunded for the portion they put in?
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk 's still pretty dubious tho since he obviously knew where the ISK was coming from and that his friend was logging onto an account that didn't belong to him to get it
afaik the account was owned by the person who logged into it Tyrrax.
It was just plain old corp theft.
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Ketch Kan
Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ketch Kan on 18/08/2008 08:20:51 not a bit was given back
and he didn't login to someone else's account it was his he just ran the account to launder the isk
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2008.08.18 08:49:00 -
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So you took isk that was supposed to be laundered before it was laundered and built a titan with it?
Man how stupid can someone be? Why didn't you launder it and THEN build the titan with it?
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Labrat7
Caldari Caldari Mining and Manufacturing Company
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: 7sunami which very large alliance was renting out space to isk farmers? Curious minds like to know :)
It was BoB.
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Milkman Dani
Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:43:00 -
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Yeah it's bob, sure..
Very large alliance.. that would leave one in particular who lives in the south east, just my opinion anyway.
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ketch Kan Edited by: Ketch Kan on 18/08/2008 08:20:51 not a bit was given back
and he didn't login to someone else's account it was his he just ran the account to launder the isk
So a guy laundering isk for isk farmers gets banned and you are complaining? Good riddance is my thoughts.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:48:00 -
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I dunno what is funnier, CCP taking the titan on a whim not really knowing the full story, or the hissy fit titan pilot quitting cos they took his big pixel toy... awe pricelesss.
Wont take to long to farm another titan eh... _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Shinigami
Gallente Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: Shinigami on 18/08/2008 09:54:42 They should just ban whole alliances if they are knowingly harboring isk farmers, and profiting from it.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shinigami Edited by: Shinigami on 18/08/2008 09:54:42 They should just ban whole alliances if they are knowingly harboring isk farmers, and profiting from it.
Yes, and I am also sure that LV didn't profit from such isk selling sweatshops in the form of "rent". Or Bob, or RA, or Goons, or "insert alliance here" _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Siminuria
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Siminuria on 18/08/2008 10:05:06
Originally by: Shinigami Edited by: Shinigami on 18/08/2008 09:54:42 They should just ban whole alliances if they are knowingly harboring isk farmers, and profiting from it.
I suspect if you knew anything at all about how an alliance functions in eve you would not be stupid enough to suggest that the countless uninformed frontline pilots lost their accounts because of nefarious dealings on hidden forums made my their ceo/directors.
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Zetjur Jilnou
Rapid Deployment Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:17:00 -
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Wait, so the guy didn't get the isk from isk sellers, he just stole it from someone elses account?
yeah that's a lot better, nice work
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Shinigami
Gallente Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Siminuria I suspect if you knew anything at all about how an alliance functions in eve you would not be stupid enough to suggest that the countless uninformed frontline pilots lost their accounts because of nefarious dealings on hidden forums made my their ceo/directors.
I think I would be smart enough to find a new corp/alliance if I saw dozens of blues named like "afsafasf1111" ratting in my alliance's space. It's not hard to spot the isk farmers. It's not like they are hidden from view.
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:36:00 -
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With no official word from CCP we have no way of knowing what happened. I've been playing for five years, so I know quite a few players. The number of "what the ñ#%&!!"-cases is on the rise.
Perhaps Quality Control at GM-headquaters need a swift kick in the nuts?
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Mjabi
KIA Heavy Industries KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Mjabi on 18/08/2008 10:43:30
Originally by: Zetjur Jilnou Wait, so the guy didn't get the isk from isk sellers, he just stole it from someone elses account?
yeah that's a lot better, nice work
This is as I know it to be.
Someone (lets call him Pilot X) from the large Alliance was tasked with managing the isk that influxxed from renters and also the farmers in the Alliances regions.
Pilot X skimmed money of the top of this ISK. He gave a lump of his skimmed cash to Ketch, simply as a gift. Ketch knew it came from Renters to that other Alliance.
This money was added to Daisho Alliance funds and a Titan Purchased.
It was plain corp theft on behalf of Pilot X which as we know is celebrated in Eve and not against the EULA.
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maarud
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:41:00 -
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From the sounds of things, someone was accessing an account that wasn't theirs and made alot of ISK from it. It also sounds like the titan was partly funded from this ISK.
Is that correct?
Maarud.
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maarud
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mjabi
Originally by: Zetjur Jilnou Wait, so the guy didn't get the isk from isk sellers, he just stole it from someone elses account?
yeah that's a lot better, nice work
This is as I know it to be.
Someone from the large Alliance was tasked with managing the isk that influxxed from renters and also the farmers in the Alliances regions.
This person skimmed money of the top of this ISK. He gave a lump of his skimmed cash to Ketch, simply as a gift. Ketch knew it came from Renters to that other Alliance.
This money was added to Alliance funds and a Titan Purchased.
It was plain corp theft which as we know is celebrated in Eve and not against the EULA.
No, it was stolen from someone's account, which goes under hacking, not corp theft.
Difference
Maarud.
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Mjabi
KIA Heavy Industries KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: maarud From the sounds of things, someone was accessing an account that wasn't theirs and made alot of ISK from it. It also sounds like the titan was partly funded from this ISK.
Is that correct?
Again afaik, the account was theirs to access. No hacking etc took place, just plain theft from corp, and that stolen isk passed to Ketch.
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Shikome Alluin
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: 7sunami which very large alliance was renting out space to isk farmers? Curious minds like to know :)
Tyrrax, our former loved (we dont love you anymore, smack smack etc) uberlord rented out space to farmers... Your space infact
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