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Sharp Feather
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sharp Feather on 25/04/2008 00:36:38 You know whats so awesome about video games? Its the fact that you can have a good bit of fun whitout the consequence. Its so sad that I cant jump in an instance and try and learn how to pvp whitout losing ships to massive GANG BANG one sided 4 years old characters.
Carebear? Carebear? Ahahah you guys make me laugh sooOooO hard when you are all throwing ''you are a carebear'' at each other. You are all carebears and If it wasnt the case everyone would run around alone and shot at each other just worrying about how to have more fun.
Lucky me, I can level whitout playing the game which fulfil my MMO hunger whitout whitout losing IRL time.
That being said. Im out.
LEEEEEEEEEEEETS THE FLAME BEGIN YEEHA!
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Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:45:00 -
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Obvious troll is obvious?
Amidoinitrite?
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:50:00 -
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GW2WOW.
Seriously. This game is not for you if that is really your mindset.
Or try Guild Wars. It has easily accessible, no-consequence (and quite good) PvP.
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:08:00 -
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Don't feed the troll guys, he'll only follow you home and eat from your garbage can. ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:10:00 -
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Right problem, wrong solution.
Obviotroll doesn't matter in this regard. There is no way for new players to learn PvP without diving straight into the deep end. Which is really easy to recommend when you're already familiar and used to EVE's PvP but potentially very intimidating to new players (especially players relatively new to MMO's in general).
That said there is probably a better way to open up this sort of discussion in a more conducive manner than the OP. ---
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Benco97
Gallente Exchangable Properties
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:17:00 -
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Everyone started PVP without a clue, newbies these days HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD.
Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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M'kie Zeletta
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:19:00 -
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No way to learn how to PVP?
How about joining a corp and flying the FREE* ship you get when you start. You can practice PVP against others in your corp, just don't pod each other. Or join a corp that can supply you with cheap PVP frigs to practice with.
*Free = with a bonus unit of trit.
Either this post is from a very new player with little experience of the game or an obvitroll.
I tend to give the benifit of the doubt for anyone else who might be reading.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:22:00 -
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yes, you can train.
just play on the tester server and learn there. you take no losses & get all the ships/mods you wont for free too learn with..
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Acies Invictus
Neoteric War Syndicate Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:32:00 -
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I'm 3 weeks into the game and I joined a PvP Corp in null sec. Guess what, I learn quickly and rat on the side if I'm broke. It's really not that difficult. Solo PvP is harder. But I did that for a couple weeks and never had grievous loses. Know when to fight and when to flight. _______________________________________________ Human beings didn't evolve brains in order to lie around on lakes. Killing's the first thing we learned. And a good thing we did, or we'd be dead, |
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: M'kie Zeletta No way to learn how to PVP?
How about joining a corp and flying the FREE* ship you get when you start. You can practice PVP against others in your corp, just don't pod each other. Or join a corp that can supply you with cheap PVP frigs to practice with.
*Free = with a bonus unit of trit.
Either this post is from a very new player with little experience of the game or an obvitroll.
I tend to give the benifit of the doubt for anyone else who might be reading.
It takes a very specific type of player to dive into something like that. Even with zero risk, most people don't like sucking without an obvious way to improve.
Every single player that starts playing a new game has to be educated of the options available to him, and how to use them. Some players in EVE are lucky or experienced enough from other games to be able to find exactly the right people to teach them this stuff, and are independent enough to read about it themselves. However, alot don't. And a consistent complaint from new players is that they don't know what the hell to do next, because the lessons that the game is supposed to teach in the early stages either don't stick, were ignored because they didn't look important enough, or simply don't exist.
And before you start, this is something CCP has been focusing on (New Player Experience). But there's a long way to go yet and it should be discussed beyond calling anyone who mentions it a whiny carebear/newbie. ---
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ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Acies Invictus I'm 3 weeks into the game and I joined a PvP Corp in null sec. Guess what, I learn quickly and rat on the side if I'm broke. It's really not that difficult. Solo PvP is harder. But I did that for a couple weeks and never had grievous loses. Know when to fight and when to flight.
It'll get harder in the future when you pvp in T2 ships with T2 fits. Losing your noobie rifter doesn't hurt anywhere near as much as a full T2 fitted and rigged HAC.
To OP: If you get ganbanged it means the others were organized and you weren't. EVE is NOT a solo PvP game.
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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Acies Invictus
Neoteric War Syndicate Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:46:00 -
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I understand how hard it can be. I hear the groans of the guys who lose their 50m ship and it's 50m worth of fits. But that's war. _______________________________________________ Human beings didn't evolve brains in order to lie around on lakes. Killing's the first thing we learned. And a good thing we did, or we'd be dead, |
Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: ZenTex EVE is NOT a solo PvP game.
Nope - it's a general PvP and corp theft game. In other words, "sandbox = do what you want as long as it's within the rules andt he EULA (which are subject to change)."
No solo PvP?
At all?
Seriously?
I must be in the wrong game...
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2008.04.25 01:57:00 -
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Just get on SiSi (test server) and you can "waste" as many ships and mods as you like till you feel comfortable enough to give it a try where it matters.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2008.04.25 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: ZenTex EVE is NOT a solo PvP game.
Nope - it's a general PvP and corp theft game. In other words, "sandbox = do what you want as long as it's within the rules andt he EULA (which are subject to change)."
No solo PvP?
At all?
Seriously?
I must be in the wrong game...
yea realy, its only the one of the best parts of eve.. nothing like a good solo fight.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.25 02:03:00 -
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it's called the test server.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.04.25 02:20:00 -
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Mango.
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: ZenTex EVE is NOT a solo PvP game.
Nope - it's a general PvP and corp theft game. In other words, "sandbox = do what you want as long as it's within the rules andt he EULA (which are subject to change)."
No solo PvP?
At all?
Seriously?
I must be in the wrong game...
Solo PVP is dead.
Nostalgia | Deadspace2 | Deadspace |
Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2 Solo PVP is dead.
ROFL Even better!!!
I'm a noob
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sharp Feather Edited by: Sharp Feather on 25/04/2008 00:36:38 You know whats so awesome about video games? Its the fact that you can have a good bit of fun whitout the consequence. Its so sad that I cant jump in an instance and try and learn how to pvp whitout losing ships to massive GANG BANG one sided 4 years old characters.
Carebear? Carebear? Ahahah you guys make me laugh sooOooO hard when you are all throwing ''you are a carebear'' at each other. You are all carebears and If it wasnt the case everyone would run around alone and shot at each other just worrying about how to have more fun.
Lucky me, I can level whitout playing the game which fulfil my MMO hunger whitout whitout losing IRL time.
That being said. Im out.
LEEEEEEEEEEEETS THE FLAME BEGIN YEEHA!
In a year or two, when you read this thread again you will laugh about how silly you were "back then". IF you are still around then. ---
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon it's called the test server.
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ZzZGilletteZzZ
Caldari ZzZDefZzZ
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Raem Civrie (especially players relatively new to MMO's in general)
An MMO player is more likely to be a carebear whiner as real gamers don't mind their pixels exploding as much as a level 70 uber wizard mages do.
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Radcjk
Caldari Dark Star LTD Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej Obvious troll is obvious?
Amidoinitrite?
Dead on!
And heh, I prefer to think of eve less as PvP and more as PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPvV
Players(*x)vs Victim
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Don't feed the troll guys, he'll only follow you home and eat from your garbage can.
Nothing wrong with free trash pickup
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.25 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Tarminic Don't feed the troll guys, he'll only follow you home and eat from your garbage can.
Nothing wrong with free trash pickup
I'm going to be gone for a few days, and well, since you're my fav troll realist buddy, I wanted to wish you many good puns. Peace be unto you brah.
:{ ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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1717
Minmatar PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2008.04.25 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon it's called the test server.
eve-online.com |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.25 05:49:00 -
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Azeroth called, it wants its idiot back.
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |
z0de
Gallente The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.04.25 06:03:00 -
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Test server.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.25 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Radcjk And heh, I prefer to think of eve less as PvP and more as PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPvV
Players(*x)vs Victim
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPvP
That or (REALLY BIG) Pvp(really small). How many times I've had an overpowered ship undocked on me and been called a coward for not engaging... I can't count to be honest.
P.S. I fail at forum tags... how u maek fontz bigged? ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.04.25 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sharp Feather Edited by: Sharp Feather on 25/04/2008 00:36:38 You know whats so awesome about video games? Its the fact that you can have a good bit of fun whitout the consequence. Its so sad that I cant jump in an instance and try and learn how to pvp whitout losing ships to massive GANG BANG one sided 4 years old characters.
Carebear? Carebear? Ahahah you guys make me laugh sooOooO hard when you are all throwing ''you are a carebear'' at each other. You are all carebears and If it wasnt the case everyone would run around alone and shot at each other just worrying about how to have more fun.
Lucky me, I can level whitout playing the game which fulfil my MMO hunger whitout whitout losing IRL time.
That being said. Im out.
LEEEEEEEEEEEETS THE FLAME BEGIN YEEHA!
Are the crappy WoW servers down yet again?
Yea - wow, did he just say "instance"?
Heh...
Yea, a instance - you mean a Battleground? Yea, wow... if CCP did that, EVE would suffer the same fate as Blizzard did. The game would go from world PvP to 30 or more VERY 'exciting' minutes, in a line to get on a breathtaking rollarcoster ride: Laggy-Glutch, Laggy-Glutch II, and of course Laggy-Glutch III - can you guess what the next one will be?
A handful of battlegrounds that ALWAYS have the same rules, the same style, same everything - for the REST of your life, so long you continue to subscribe to WoW. This is what destroyed world PvP in WoW - why you don't see old-school raids anymore, you know - the ones that just 'happened', the ones that never had the same outcome. I mean really - BG's are epicly broken. Depending on the server, whichever faction that has the most experienced playerbase usually wins it all - so you can only hope u pick a balanced server, or a PvP server so you can at least choose to sit stealth along side a road to jump some hopeless noob for a change.
Ah - that's another thing, rogues are another brilliant design, by Blizzard of course. Seriously - they have insane damage output, they pratically dodge most of your attacks unless your a hunter, another rogue, or a caster - IF they don't spam-stun/disorent you. This is the most overpowered, and simple class - compare the differant skills rogues use compared to other classes; that alone emphaises how immensly easy rogues are, and when you actually get into combat for a while its apprant to anyone who has eyes they kick every other classes ass in most situations.
If we converted WoW into EVE - Rogues would be closest compared to a Nano-hac speed tanking (dodge), BUT with the armament of a Gankthron (damage), and the EW potential of a small ECM boat - like a Blackbird, or a Kitsune (stuns). Hmm... what currently exists in EVE that can remotly match that? :P
Ok - back to my original point...
Sorry - you can keep telli9ng your self your not a carebear, but unfortunatly your own attempts to speak out on the forums is doing nothing but supporting that claim.
EVE is not for the weak.
EVE is not like WoW where ur armor breaks and you repair it all for a minor portion of your gold - you can technically lose everything, including SP - which is the equilviant to WoW's XP. You can lose your ships, your mods - thats like losing all your gear - you know, like the failure sets developed and engineered by Blizzard to make internet addicts farm there instances 24-7 in order to keep them paying subscription.
All-in-all - its a video game, and losses and consequence add to the realism - a game that can make you feel, which is one of the greatest feats ever done by CCP - creating a MMO that can incite good or bad emotions. The thing is that some overly-emotional kids, you know - the ones that curse their heads off after dying when playing HALO - they don't mix in a game like EVE. So - my advice is to learn to bite on it, like everyone else, or rethink on weither or not you can handle a game like EVE :P
Sorry - I'm in a evil mood so I'm speaking from the heart right now. I have had to bite on losses before on EVE - but you just let it pass and learn from it if it was a noob mistake kind of loss. It can suck at times, but when you mercilessly destroy another player, it's as equally exciting as it sucks to lose stuff yourself. No other MMO I have played - and I have played a lot, can make me and many other players feel that way. ____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu, the |
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