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Cataclysmic Rogue
Federation of Builders Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:06:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/11/2006 16:27:32 Dude,
You just absolutely proved my point.
1 loss.
1 ishkur loss.
That is not peeps fighting, that's not even worth a mention.
We lose more to NPC's than 1 ishkur per day.
I'm sorry if you see everything in absolutes but if you want to claim that 1 ishkur kill per day is vindictive of an alliance fighting in a region or even "some folks down there still fighting the good fight" then you are very much mistaken.
dbp
Dude, all I'm saying is, your lieing when you say there is no ASCN there, you sound like the Iraqi information minister. There is no ASCN in Paragon Soul (meanwhile I see theres another kill mail from paragon there today).
YOU Preach about posting the truth, so don't try to tell Gungan that he is lieing when you don't know whats going on in your own region.
In the grand scheme of things I dont think the loss of one ishkur is going to result in BOB turning tail and fleeing from paragon soul and demanding peace.
Tbh the ASCN corps should either fight back or accept some sort of deal. I have to say the fact the "Useless" avatar was only used in defence of AZN says a lot to me as a spectator.
The kill stats for bob are quite frightening almost every day (even if ASCN spam petitions as implied by their members posts)
Gl to both sides I want to see how it all turns out
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:15:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/11/2006 16:27:32 Dude,
You just absolutely proved my point.
1 loss.
1 ishkur loss.
That is not peeps fighting, that's not even worth a mention.
We lose more to NPC's than 1 ishkur per day.
I'm sorry if you see everything in absolutes but if you want to claim that 1 ishkur kill per day is vindictive of an alliance fighting in a region or even "some folks down there still fighting the good fight" then you are very much mistaken.
dbp
Dude, all I'm saying is, your lieing when you say there is no ASCN there, you sound like the Iraqi information minister. There is no ASCN in Paragon Soul (meanwhile I see theres another kill mail from paragon there today).
YOU Preach about posting the truth, so don't try to tell Gungan that he is lieing when you don't know whats going on in your own region.
I believe DBP knows quite well whats happening in PS, and the KMs of some BOB ships will not change the fact that it looks that you ceased to have a presence there, mainly because a roaming gang doesnt mean nothing.
And if by any chance ASCN still has a significant force in the area, I strongly recommend to concentrate all your forces, where it matters.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:25:00 -
[153]
yeah over in delve and aridia this hasnt happend so i guess BOB will start shooting other peeps namley Redswarm etc
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:59:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Murukan Edited by: Murukan on 19/11/2006 21:00:31 i'm getting a weird sense of deja vu. Like i've already read this thread before.
I do have to admit though the nice region... With thol immedietly replying we'll take it was a good little forum coreography
yeah that's about it.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:22:00 -
[155]
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe DBP knows quite well whats happening in PS, and the KMs of some BOB ships will not change the fact that it looks that you ceased to have a presence there, mainly because a roaming gang doesnt mean nothing.
And if by any chance ASCN still has a significant force in the area, I strongly recommend to concentrate all your forces, where it matters.
I'm not in ascn, just a fan of these threads.
Anyway, the 2 kills are insignificant, I said that, but he also claimed that they were in complete control, and there were no ASCN operating there. I was pointing out that their killboard says differently.
If you make an absolute claim (which DBP did in his No No No post to Gungan), you should be absolutely sure about it.
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:30:00 -
[156]
Quote: LOL really ACSN FC you really should be enforcing ship setups, i spotted loads of long range ships with tanks on(a tempest fitting 1200 so he can tank) and s arma with small lasers on and 2x 1600,and no if your trying to kill support it doesnt work in fleet, just kaes you FC think he has more bs than he actually has
Just an informational post:
The BS tanks were in place to be able to tank 50,000 EM damage (Avatar DD weapon) that was fully expected in the battles on Saturday and going forward. I would assume the question came from someone who never had to plan for such damage.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:19:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: DeadDuck
I believe DBP knows quite well whats happening in PS, and the KMs of some BOB ships will not change the fact that it looks that you ceased to have a presence there, mainly because a roaming gang doesnt mean nothing.
And if by any chance ASCN still has a significant force in the area, I strongly recommend to concentrate all your forces, where it matters.
I'm not in ascn, just a fan of these threads.
Anyway, the 2 kills are insignificant, I said that, but he also claimed that they were in complete control, and there were no ASCN operating there. I was pointing out that their killboard says differently.
If you make an absolute claim (which DBP did in his No No No post to Gungan), you should be absolutely sure about it.
1 ishkur loss is about as absolute as it gets, fyi. We ARE in complete control, try bringing something bigger than a frigate in to the area to test it.
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic 1 ishkur loss is about as absolute as it gets, fyi. We ARE in complete control, try bringing something bigger than a frigate in to the area to test it.
I'm sorry, but your not. 2 ships like today, or 200, by implying your in complete control means you can stop any and all attacks.
Its just not the case, not now, not ever. To state that is misrepresenting yourselves as ASCN HC might have. You can keep trying to spin it, or you can admit that you cannot 'completely' control an area?
Next spin doctor please.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:39:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: Dianabolic 1 ishkur loss is about as absolute as it gets, fyi. We ARE in complete control, try bringing something bigger than a frigate in to the area to test it.
I'm sorry, but your not. 2 ships like today, or 200, by implying your in complete control means you can stop any and all attacks.
Its just not the case, not now, not ever. To state that is misrepresenting yourselves as ASCN HC might have. You can keep trying to spin it, or you can admit that you cannot 'completely' control an area?
Next spin doctor please.
lol, whatever you say bub.
We're in complete control, we could lose a battleship even, in the vast lawless spaces of 0.0 that IS complete control.
Next special project, please
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:42:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Dianabolic
lol, whatever you say bub.
Ok, well I guess if you say that way, it must be true.
We have different opinions of complete control obviously. I just think should be a little more honest with yourselves.
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ProphetGuru
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Malius
I'm sorry, but your not. 2 ships like today, or 200, by implying your in complete control means you can stop any and all attacks.
Don't be obtuse. Yes, VC-ASCN Wing, will probably be able to get a frig in every now and then and claim.. "omg we live!!"
The same can be said of any alliance in this game.
Control has many definitions, and by every meaningful and applicable definition, we have control. We control this region now, just as we control the fate of ASCN.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.11.20 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru Don't be obtuse. Yes, VC-ASCN Wing, will probably be able to get a frig in every now and then and claim.. "omg we live!!"
Perhaps, but my posts were not disputing ownership of the region, which is obviously yours, it was more this statement by DBP:
"There isn't "some folks down there still fighting". There is no-one here but us and a couple of ASCN trying to sneak home out of our territory."
Which isn't completely true, or his assertion of complete control, which someone else put it better a couple posts back as 'impossible in lawless 0.0' space.
Originally by: ProphetGuru ...just as we control the fate of ASCN.
Interesting observation, I didn't see it that way I guess.
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MIGHTYDWC
Gallente Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.20 21:28:00 -
[163]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Malius
I'm sorry, but your not. 2 ships like today, or 200, by implying your in complete control means you can stop any and all attacks.
Don't be obtuse. Yes, VC-ASCN Wing, will probably be able to get a frig in every now and then and claim.. "omg we live!!"
The same can be said of any alliance in this game.
Control has many definitions, and by every meaningful and applicable definition, we have control. We control this region now, just as we control the fate of ASCN.
Not meant as flamage or anything, but I get scared when someone throws the "obtuse" adj at someone else, specially after watching Shawshank Redemption.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.20 21:37:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Malius
Originally by: ProphetGuru Don't be obtuse. Yes, VC-ASCN Wing, will probably be able to get a frig in every now and then and claim.. "omg we live!!"
Perhaps, but my posts were not disputing ownership of the region, which is obviously yours, it was more this statement by DBP:
"There isn't "some folks down there still fighting". There is no-one here but us and a couple of ASCN trying to sneak home out of our territory."
Which isn't completely true, or his assertion of complete control, which someone else put it better a couple posts back as 'impossible in lawless 0.0' space.
Originally by: ProphetGuru ...just as we control the fate of ASCN.
Interesting observation, I didn't see it that way I guess.
are you just thick for arguments sake or do you really have a problem grasping basic game mechanics?
We control the region, there might be the odd frigate or even a couple of them going there every once in a while. But there hasnt been a fleet there in a long time. They tried last sunday but stopped one system out of PS and then turned back to AZN.
And I can promise you that no enemy frig fleet will go unchecked there, you can try that yourself if you like. Or you can sit here on the forums making an ass out of yourself.
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MrRogerz
The Neighborhood
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:23:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Sharcy
Originally by: DB Preacher No gungan.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Excuse me, but I'm a bit puzzled here..... If someone posts inaccurate information, why is it (and please be exact here), that people with the accurate information are not allowed/supposed to post it????
Who on earth said BoB had the accurate information?
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:29:00 -
[166]
Originally by: MrRogerz
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Sharcy
Originally by: DB Preacher No gungan.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Excuse me, but I'm a bit puzzled here..... If someone posts inaccurate information, why is it (and please be exact here), that people with the accurate information are not allowed/supposed to post it????
Who on earth said BoB had the accurate information?
Who says we don't? There's a lot of vitriolic nonsense and crying when we post uncomfortable truths but I'm yet to see anyone successfully refute any of the facts we post.
Blog
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Delthus
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:49:00 -
[167]
anywho umm i still don't know whats been going i nthe last 3 months except bob took paragon all i know is i got targets when i get a decent laptop but here goes my same old speal all bob will die by me cause i rock ;) that is all continue the useless bickering i am greater then u all muahahhaha see u all December 23 U BETTER NOT NAP OR I WILL SO BLOW A GASKET
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MrRogerz
The Neighborhood
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:56:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: MrRogerz
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Sharcy
Originally by: DB Preacher No gungan.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Excuse me, but I'm a bit puzzled here..... If someone posts inaccurate information, why is it (and please be exact here), that people with the accurate information are not allowed/supposed to post it????
Who on earth said BoB had the accurate information?
Who says we don't? There's a lot of vitriolic nonsense and crying when we post uncomfortable truths but I'm yet to see anyone successfully refute any of the facts we post.
Almost every other member of this forum don't believe BoB speak truth at all
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Yuri Steel
Forge Logistics
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Posted - 2006.11.21 01:56:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: MrRogerz
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Sharcy
Originally by: DB Preacher No gungan.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Excuse me, but I'm a bit puzzled here..... If someone posts inaccurate information, why is it (and please be exact here), that people with the accurate information are not allowed/supposed to post it????
Who on earth said BoB had the accurate information?
Who says we don't? There's a lot of vitriolic nonsense and crying when we post uncomfortable truths but I'm yet to see anyone successfully refute any of the facts we post.
You cannot refute facts when none are ever posted.
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Recluse Viramor
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 02:08:00 -
[170]
Originally by: MrRogerz
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: MrRogerz
Originally by: Tzrailasa
Originally by: Sharcy
Originally by: DB Preacher No gungan.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Excuse me, but I'm a bit puzzled here..... If someone posts inaccurate information, why is it (and please be exact here), that people with the accurate information are not allowed/supposed to post it????
Who on earth said BoB had the accurate information?
Who says we don't? There's a lot of vitriolic nonsense and crying when we post uncomfortable truths but I'm yet to see anyone successfully refute any of the facts we post.
Almost every other member of this forum don't believe BoB speak truth at all
So almost every other member of this forum?
It seems your statement about truth is lacking in truth itself.
Everyone step back and take a deep breath.
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion I am confused.
If ASCN has 4000+ members cant they get 2 fleets of 500 each say and go forth and pown? Afaik they are not predominently noobs like Goons for exampel so they should have at least 200-400 fully tech II BSs at all times standing by...
I am just wondering and please I wouldnt like any BoB replies to this but I d love an explannation from an ASCN member who knows whats what. Ty
You would think that but apprently they have ALOT of alts or else ALOT of people just making isk for themselves.
I think they decided losing a t2 bs wasnt worth it since it would most certianly die. Better to save that t2 for the NPC alt.
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |
Lorac Caladon
Caldari The Cowboy Junkies
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Posted - 2006.11.21 15:10:00 -
[172]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/11/2006 16:27:32 Dude,
You just absolutely proved my point.
1 loss.
1 ishkur loss.
That is not peeps fighting, that's not even worth a mention.
We lose more to NPC's than 1 ishkur per day.
I'm sorry if you see everything in absolutes but if you want to claim that 1 ishkur kill per day is vindictive of an alliance fighting in a region or even "some folks down there still fighting the good fight" then you are very much mistaken.
dbp
So NPC's are killing more BOB everyday than ASCN is in PS? Maybe you should try to inflitrate the NPC's TS and forum's. There is apparently no shame in having to cheat to beat a PC, why worry about cheating to avoid loses to NPC's? As L33T as BOB is, surely you can find a way...
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Coranor
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 15:51:00 -
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Why don't you come down to paragon soul and see how extensive our control of the region is. Its all very well sitting in empire or 2-3 regions away and rambling like a mad man from there its when you actually come down to take a look that you'll actually find stuff out.
Theories have to be proven and i'm sorry but a couple of frigs is not proof.
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Bobbeh
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:24:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Lorac Caladon
So NPC's are killing more BOB everyday than ASCN is in PS? Maybe you should try to inflitrate the NPC's TS and forum's. There is apparently no shame in having to cheat to beat a PC, why worry about cheating to avoid loses to NPC's? As L33T as BOB is, surely you can find a way...
Those NPC's drop good loot. Mimiru > It'd be a tie, the monkies nerfed pooflinger wouldnt have enough tracking to hit the parrot orbiting him, but the parrot's beak is so small it couldnt break the monkey's fur tanking. |
Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:49:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Lorac Caladon So NPC's are killing more BOB everyday than ASCN is in PS? Maybe you should try to inflitrate the NPC's TS and forum's. There is apparently no shame in having to cheat to beat a PC, why worry about cheating to avoid loses to NPC's? As L33T as BOB is, surely you can find a way...
They don't need to, NPCs don't hide at POS and *gasp* fight when attacked.
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Lorac Caladon
Caldari The Cowboy Junkies
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Posted - 2006.11.22 03:59:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Bobbeh
Originally by: Lorac Caladon
So NPC's are killing more BOB everyday than ASCN is in PS? Maybe you should try to inflitrate the NPC's TS and forum's. There is apparently no shame in having to cheat to beat a PC, why worry about cheating to avoid loses to NPC's? As L33T as BOB is, surely you can find a way...
Those NPC's drop good loot.
I don't think anyone denies that you control the region NOW. I just think that most people believe you could not control the region NOW if you did not cheat.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lorac Caladon I don't think anyone denies that you control the region NOW. I just think that most people believe you could not control the region NOW if you did not cheat.
Ok smart arse, let's have it then, where's the proof of us cheating that you are obviously sat on?
Blog
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Lorac Caladon
Caldari The Cowboy Junkies
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lorac Caladon I don't think anyone denies that you control the region NOW. I just think that most people believe you could not control the region NOW if you did not cheat.
Ok smart arse, let's have it then, where's the proof of us cheating that you are obviously sat on?
Do BOB members have ASCN TS &/or Forum access?
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lorac Caladon
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lorac Caladon I don't think anyone denies that you control the region NOW. I just think that most people believe you could not control the region NOW if you did not cheat.
Ok smart arse, let's have it then, where's the proof of us cheating that you are obviously sat on?
Do BOB members have ASCN TS &/or Forum access?
Where is your proof that we are cheating?
Blog
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Sirius A
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sirius A on 22/11/2006 04:25:14
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Quote:
We control this region now, just as we control the fate of ASCN.
...thats a good one
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