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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Rod Blaine Provided of course that ASCN's FC can find the testicular fortitude to take his twice as large gang and jump it into us within now and say an hour or two.
You're the aggressor, remember? The onus is not on ASCN to do something; if the status quo doesn't change, you lose.
<3, --P
What ?
So, we take a complete region from ASCN in 4 weeks without losing a single battle of note, killing an unprecedented numbe of ships in our history, achieving an unprecedented kill ratio and killing over a dozen capitals for losing next to none...
Yet, if everything were to freeze right now and nothing would move from this point on we'd still have lost according to you.
Interesting perspective, particularly how we've no intention of stopping what we've started yet to my knowledge.
ASCN set themselves some objectives for yesterday that they didn't quite make because they ran and got killed alot in AZN, they know what I mean even if you don't. Today was chance number 2, and surprise, they've not dared to confrint us directly.
Time is running out, and it's most definately ASCN it is running out for, not BoB.
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Fassin Zakalwe
Amarr BlueTuba
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:04:00 -
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This is like bad daytime television. - Ooooomph! |
Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Rod Blaine Provided of course that ASCN's FC can find the testicular fortitude to take his twice as large gang and jump it into us within now and say an hour or two.
You're the aggressor, remember? The onus is not on ASCN to do something; if the status quo doesn't change, you lose.
<3, --P
With that mentality you are going to loose your space. If you dont counter attack YOU LOSE!
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:06:00 -
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Wait, wait wait. Now, I'll be the first to admit I haven't been keeping up with things as much as I have in the past, but what are these ASCN claims to have decimated half of a BoB fleet in AZN?
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships? You may want to see your nearest physician, I think you've fallen into some sort of mass-hysteria.
Oh, and don't even try to say that losing 18b in a week means nothing to your alliance. Dividing up numbers per member means nothing, especially when a large portion of those members aren't doing anything at all productive.
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scabbsssjr
Gallente M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: scabbsssjr on 19/11/2006 22:09:21 So you do have full control over paragon soul? that explains the new outposts of yours.
I am still waiting for another Cyvok blog.
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BoinKlasik
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:12:00 -
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2 posts on the front page Pilk? paying too much attn to the forums now you are. Who is up in the rotation to post the next week summary of whats going on? Is it Molle's turn again? Thats all I care about here, at least the SE sufferers in relative peace and quiet.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Farham
Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:25:00 -
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Grats to you BOBers on Paragon!
I genuinely hope you enjoy the next months baby sitting it while everyone else rushes to the new Kali zones
See you BOBers out there soon. I'll be the one in the poorly fitted ship named something like "My other ship is a Barge" performing PvP in a way that can only be described as "**** poor" but all the while having a blast
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Mar Drakar
LDK
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:29:00 -
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darko ffs.. if I were you i'd be sitting quiet in your nappers club. -- Make your life worth dying. CEO LDK |
Kaleeb
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:30:00 -
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Mercs for hire
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VonKaplanek III
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: VonKaplanek III In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash.
We've been fighting alongside node crashes for nearly 2 months now and yet you guys STILL whine about us jumping in.
Get over it. Try and realise that SOMETIMES jumping IN (instead of being cowards and camping a gate) might actually be to you advantage
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:34:00 -
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The "we are learning/improving" line still *****s me up.
How long has ASCN been around? You cant keep using the same line forever, someday you'll have to open your eyes and realise something pretty obvious.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:38:00 -
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I just wanna say that some ppl obviously spent to much time infront of their PCs and lost touch with reality and common sence.
I would suggest this game require some RL expiriance before you play it....or you might end up in loonyhouse very soon. This ainght a joke sadly
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Soulis
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:44:00 -
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Good read.
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:47:00 -
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As per the results I have thus far to my questions:
1. ASCN appears to have a mighty industrial backbone, why no replacement program to keep your fighters fighting? You should be able to zerg BOB with battleships, losses be ****ed. Its your space you are out to defend, nobody cares about your kill/loss ratio. You have the industrial backbone to build a titan and spam outposts, this is really not a hard thing to do. Put the miners to work. They should be able to make enormous amounts of fitted battleships for sale at cost or at platinum insurance value for their alliancemates such that the alliance can send them in one after another into the meat grinder. Who cares if BoB gets kills if for every one battleship dead, everyone can just warp to the station, dock, and undock in a new battleship and warp back into the fight? What an extreme waste of resources.
2. Its never good to fight for a leadership that does not tell you what they are doing or what they expect you to do. This is not how to lead an alliance and expect people to fight for it.
3. Still looking for more replies here, but it sounds to me like its Scan Probe time...
4. A tragedy when compiled with the result from question 1.
5. Predictable. Sad to see what BOB said was right...
6. Seems more a problem with people caring about losing ships, which should not happen in a large alliance.
Anyhow, I guess it remains to be seen if ASCN bleeds Esoteria before they remedy their mistake...
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Sivona
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:53:00 -
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When all is said and done, regardless of ship losses, moral blogs internal bickering, fear of engagement etc. This is about control of space and stations. BoB has now taken a region and all the stations within it, these are results which are not disputable and will not be replaced by GM's because it was a tad laggy. ASCN need to learn to fight and learn to take down POS's or they should start looking for a new home now, they've had their 'learning time', now its time they actually started to beat bob or lose their space.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/11/2006 23:02:26
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
Hi,
Here are the Kills/Losses from 23:16 until 02:40 in AZN.
BoB Kills on ASCN. 46 Battleships. 100 Support.
ASCN Kills on BoB. 8 Battleships. 60 Support.
Numbers speak for themselves really and your posts about you winning this battle on your forums is hilarious.
If this is losing then ho ho ho, as the fat man says.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 19/11/2006 23:01:08 The current tactic is also quite funny. They move towards paragon, in a big fleet (140 ish). Then when bob forms a fleet, they move back to feythabolis, into a system where a titan is, and wait for bob to jump in so they can doomsday us, while some of our support kills a few of their bs in that system. If that was your big push for this weekend then you are really in serious trouble. If you wanna reclaim anything, or even try to hurt us, you'll have to bring it. Else i would start thinking about removing your assets from key systems in feyth, so they don't get locked in.
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Revelatia
Clandestia
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:04:00 -
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@ - Ituralde
1. This is not the almighty backbone that people continue to think it is, in that is isn't working in a joined up way, with effective oversight and selfless input.
As I said, some corps do have a replacement program, but most pilots are either replacing their own losses when they can, or charitable members are replacing them for them. As to why there is no alliance level replacement program, that could be a very long answer.. the short version is I think even the HC realise it just wouldn't be feasible.
2. There is no cohesive plan, and even when gangs are told to form they aren't told even vaguely what for, so cant fit accordingly. Plus actually getting a gang invite and into the right TS channel can be more painful than home dentistry at times.
3. Not as such, fleets until recently have been ordered NOT to play it BoB's way, dont slug it out, but to hit and run, flyby shootings etc... This has resulted in endless hours, and yes i'm talking four and more at times... of nothing but POS sitting.
4. Don't get me wrong, their are some very wealthy people, but the average member is not.
5. Quite frankly, most of what they have posted to date has been right. That itself is distasteful.
6. Not so much the losing of ships, hell if you live in 0.0 you should expect to lose ships, more of a "WTF was the FC doing to lose that ****!" followed by the FC and gang members at the time saying "We did this because..."
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese I just wanna say that some ppl obviously spent to much time infront of their PCs and lost touch with reality and common sence.
I would suggest this game require some RL expiriance before you play it....or you might end up in loonyhouse very soon. This ainght a joke sadly
i couldn't agree more, so tell it too your alliance mates
Don't be a great man just be a man |
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:10:00 -
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P.S. Since BOB is saying that our objective was not met this weekend. But as a matter of fact it was and they know it
Don't be a great man just be a man |
ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: ChaosOne on 19/11/2006 23:12:15
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/11/2006 23:02:26
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
Hi,
Here are the Kills/Losses from 23:16 until 02:40 in AZN.
BoB Kills on ASCN. 46 Battleships. 100 Support.
ASCN Kills on BoB. 8 Battleships. 60 Support.
Numbers speak for themselves really and your posts about you winning this battle on your forums is hilarious.
If this is losing then ho ho ho, as the fat man says.
dbp
why not try adding in the bob lite losses as well. I belive it was us collecting the loot after the battle as well.....
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: ChaosOne Edited by: ChaosOne on 19/11/2006 23:12:09
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/11/2006 23:02:26
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
Hi,
Here are the Kills/Losses from 23:16 until 02:40 in AZN.
BoB Kills on ASCN. 46 Battleships. 100 Support.
ASCN Kills on BoB. 8 Battleships. 60 Support.
Numbers speak for themselves really and your posts about you winning this battle on your forums is hilarious.
If this is losing then ho ho ho, as the fat man says.
dbp
why not try adding in the bob lite losses as well. I belive it was us collecting the loot after the battle as well.....
Those losses are from our KB, they are BoB iga and ASCN iga. If you have any missing lossmails from our side please feel free to send them to us and we'll post them.
I hope you've got loads, tbh, because on these stats you guys got bbq'd pretty bad, despite being on the camp.
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Nira Li
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Nira Li on 19/11/2006 23:13:37
Originally by: ChaosOne
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/11/2006 23:02:26
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
Hi,
Here are the Kills/Losses from 23:16 until 02:40 in AZN.
BoB Kills on ASCN. 46 Battleships. 100 Support.
ASCN Kills on BoB. 8 Battleships. 60 Support.
Numbers speak for themselves really and your posts about you winning this battle on your forums is hilarious.
If this is losing then ho ho ho, as the fat man says.
dbp
why not try adding in the bob lite losses as well.
Well it's not our fault Dorkstar can't read our killboard. Losses are there, just look at them And picking up your own loot doesn't count
You Will Cry My Name
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Sivona
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: ChaosOne Edited by: ChaosOne on 19/11/2006 23:12:09
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/11/2006 23:02:26
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Today I see quite a few BoB losses in AZN, surely. But you want to claim victory for killing as many frigates/cruisers as you lost in battleships?
In yesterdays fight they lost 1/2 of their numbers, they finally left because it was bedtime and they had very little support left. In the 30 or so ASCN BS losses, we will get majority back because thet happened in teh node crash. We scored alot of t2 ship kills and we had fun!! We dont care what they say, bottom line is last night we did very well against the bob pvp machine and again i say...we had fun!
Hi,
Here are the Kills/Losses from 23:16 until 02:40 in AZN.
BoB Kills on ASCN. 46 Battleships. 100 Support.
ASCN Kills on BoB. 8 Battleships. 60 Support.
Numbers speak for themselves really and your posts about you winning this battle on your forums is hilarious.
If this is losing then ho ho ho, as the fat man says.
dbp
why not try adding in the bob lite losses as well. I belive it was us collecting the loot after the battle as well.....
This is a very silly argument, killing the allies of an entity is not killing that entity and tbh i think it has very little overall effect upon BoB and BoB's gameplan, and ultimately the loss of your stations. What matters is who owns the space, the rest is just fluff imo
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ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:21:00 -
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didnt think to take a picture of the 30 or so bob cans at tro gate. dosnt mean they were not there.
Bob lite, when the best isnt good enough.
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TWD
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:23:00 -
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One region down, one and a half to go. |
thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
3. This one is also a question for BoB, are there ever BoB fleets that stay in one spot in a battleground system (one with a fleet present from each side) for 20 minutes or more at a time?
Yes regularly, for a few different reasons.. mostly because when ASCN have a fleet it will sit in POS and try to hit and run.. and so needs baiting
Sitting in POS's or SS is a concept i dont really understand tbh.. it rarely changes the outcome of a fight and just wastes alot of time..
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Darko1107
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mar Drakar darko ffs.. if I were you i'd be sitting quiet in your nappers club.
Right....
Thats just a ridiculus post. What does IRON being napped have to do with the current status of the BoB:ASCN war? Or are you just saying because we have good relations with most of the north that we arent allowed to comment on anything?
Either way your an idiot. But then agian, your probly just a tad upset you got spanked out of the north.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.19 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 19/11/2006 23:42:14 Last ASCN tower in station systems in Paragon Soul has just died.
I'd like to add that no ASCN fleet entered Paragon soul this weekend.
@ crellion: they are testing new regions on sisi accordingly to their previous posts. I wonder why. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve.
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