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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:39:00 -
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Skillpoints & age of character is not the be all and end all in eve. I have 1 character who specialises in making isk through manufacturing, mining & missions & another who specialises in pvp. The mining char has 30+mill SP's the PVP has 8mill SP's. If I put the 30 mill sp char against the 8mill SP char in a 1 on 1 fight the 8 mill char will win hands down everytime. It does not take long to get up n going in eve, you can be pvp within a couple of months, and a decent miner within a similar time scale.
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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:39:00 -
[92]
Skillpoints & age of character is not the be all and end all in eve. I have 1 character who specialises in making isk through manufacturing, mining & missions & another who specialises in pvp. The mining char has 30+mill SP's the PVP has 8mill SP's. If I put the 30 mill sp char against the 8mill SP char in a 1 on 1 fight the 8 mill char will win hands down everytime. It does not take long to get up n going in eve, you can be pvp within a couple of months, and a decent miner within a similar time scale.
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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:39:00 -
[93]
Skillpoints & age of character is not the be all and end all in eve. I have 1 character who specialises in making isk through manufacturing, mining & missions & another who specialises in pvp. The mining char has 30+mill SP's the PVP has 8mill SP's. If I put the 30 mill sp char against the 8mill SP char in a 1 on 1 fight the 8 mill char will win hands down everytime. It does not take long to get up n going in eve, you can be pvp within a couple of months, and a decent miner within a similar time scale.
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Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[94]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[95]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[98]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[99]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
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Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[101]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[102]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[103]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[106]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Sadayiel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[110]
i posted this once and i'm gonna post again t's quite simple to understand tbh.
I'm 1 year old right now in 3 months i can match any veteran from beta with the single difference they prolly will got large spec lvl 5 while i may still at lvl 4 just piloting BS so where is the difference?
it's so damn easy veterans right now are very specialized in much areas i bet a 3 years old can match my skills for 3 different races and weapons system while i only can stick to a single race and half.
So STOP whinning this game idea it's not i'm the most skilled guy i can fly any ship ingame, this game it's about i'm skilled enough to "FIT" the ship i like to use, enough skilled to "MATCH" any other pilot using same kind of ship and experienced enough to know "HOW TO FIGHT" even 3 years old chars....
-------------------Sig----------------------- The True Pirate secret |
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Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Originally by: Domain Diva
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Rodj Blake Old characters do die off.
I'm pretty sure that a large chunk of the characters created on day one are no longer being used.
I would say the majority...
There was like 5000 subscriptions at release?
Lucky if 1000 of those still play...
According to a dev post last month there are only 2 players with +50m skill points and less than 500 with +40m skill points still active in eve.
The average number of skill points for active characters was about 10m.
This also connects with other Devs having said that the average player in game only stays for about 6-10 months.
Which I find odd, since at about 6 months is when you start getting the T2 ships and weapons.
That's not correct. What they said was the average SP was 7 million.
This does not mean that people leave after 7 million SP: it means that most players of EVE have only been playing for a few months.
No. Seperately, Kieron I believe once said that the average players life was only about 6-10 months.
Thats not uncommon in the MMO world. In fact it's probably better than the average.
___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:42:00 -
[112]
Noob chars are useless biomass. (Wow, there is more than this roidbelt! And there are other systems to visit?)
Train a couple of skills, learn how to use the modules you have available and become a rookie with more than most basic knowledge of EVE. Find out what you like to do and go for it!
See, rookies aren't useless biomass any longer. Enjoy the game. (I just built my first BS -or- Yay Gotcha, good fight. Try to catch me next time!) --*=*=*--
Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment. |
Weirda
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:43:00 -
[113]
you can mark you calender by this (these) thread. at almost the exact interval (every 2.5 month) someone has this 'epiphony' about 'everyone starting over'.
it is stupid. if you think you will always be disadvantaged, you will. if you play to have fun, it doesn't matter
honestly, who on earth do you think would sign up for a game that randomly 'wipes everyones characters' that they spend 1-3 year building up (not just skill point)?
weirda idea of this type of game is long term achievement. take that away and you might as well play fps instead. __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now |
BurnHard
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:43:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Dark Shikari Now the veteran can play ...., Tennis, .... and Rugby.....
I would pay good money to see Tim Henman in the Front Row against the All Blacks.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:44:00 -
[115]
Originally by: BurnHard
Originally by: Dark Shikari Now the veteran can play ...., Tennis, .... and Rugby.....
I would pay good money to see Tim Henman in the Front Row against the All Blacks.
--Proud member of the [23]--
-WTB Platinum Technite, WTS Nanotransistors, Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II- |
Oosel
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:44:00 -
[116]
ive played since day 1 retail and i can guarantee you players who only started 1 year ago would bust me up in a pvp duel and i dare so a fair few have more isk than me skills dont me diddly from my point of view but to be told that after over 3 years of solid play that i should now start over just because you feel its unfair that i have just doesnt make sense
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Ferd VonHeise
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:48:00 -
[117]
Originally by: K Shara go back to wow
Don't play it and never have... (Glad I got so many people "thinking" on the topic.
Some have mentioned how few of the "old timers" are still with us. I wonder what the "age" is of the Top Corporate Leaders would be?? That would be an interesting survey to do.
They are the ones making policy in game. (As much policy as can be had) They are the ones with the power.
So if it takes just 6 months to build a character... then if your character dies off after two or so years you would still have had a year and a half to have one of the best skilled characters around. What's so bad about that??
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:53:00 -
[118]
I'm approaching my three month mark.
I have enough money to singlehandedly support our POS for 6 months, assuming I don't kill things in the meantime to get more money.
I regularly PvP, sometimes win, sometimes lose. That's life in lowsec.
If I'm outnumbered, I call in friends.
I run weapons/fuel for said POS, I run hits on war targets, and so forth.
So, let's recap. I'm a 3 month old with <3 mil SP, with money and the ability to fight off attackers, even taking the fight to them now and then. I'm the highest-scoring killer on our killboards, outstripping vets with twice the skillpoints (admittedly, those vets are carebears, but whatever). Finally, I do non-combat things that are useful and helpful to the corp. Newbies are not useless, and my Cyclone will demonstrate that. ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Soumk
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:55:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise I wrote this to the EVE group but they are "too busy" to answer. So I thought I would put this out for all to read and comment on.
I've been looking at this link: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID;30 7861 It appears that the longer you play this game the more skills and points you have and the new guys can never catch up. You can't even take over the spots of the higher people as they are not going to die off like people would in real life so others of younger years can move up and take over. In essence you have created a world that has no death and those who come later will never be in a position of real power. That is depressing and makes it impossible to work towards being the best in this game when you come into it 3 years into the making. Those who have been here for ages are having a great old time. But those who haven't will never see the pinnacles of victory. How are you going to address this issue? It is one that the Sci-Fi books talk about.
I had another thought about this. The only way to "solve" this is to have these old characters actually die off. And this could be done by just making an announcement along the lines of: "There has been a flaw found in the cloning process that was not anticipated. Scientist have found that a certain percentage of clones die and are unable to be revieved after XXX number of years. The percentage of clones that die grows exponentialy after xxx number of years."
You could make the announcment far enough in advance that these people can start shifting their money to other characters... (just like in real life) but the skills earned would dissapear and others would take their place in the corporations.
You will get the old guys mad I'm sure.... but there are lots of others who are playing this that will realize the advantages and like this policy. And you will force people to be training their "kids" (other characters) who would be available to be voted into leadership positions when the time comes. (As would happen in real life)
Stupid idea.
Jump out of an airlock at a safespot.
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Mastoras
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:59:00 -
[120]
That idea makes me want to puke! OMG man, you might as well say that EVE is shutting down, cuz thats exactly what it would do. You do realize this is a game? Hence real life problems and limits do not need to apply to games. We all face death in real life, doesnt mean it has to equate into games!
P.S. If you did want death then a clone would last 100 years in real-time, cuz thats how long we can live ;) Not a measly 3 years. But either way, that idea is HORRIBLE.
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