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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:45:00 -
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CCP Sreegs has been busy investigating a recent event and now he's here to tell you all about the results. Check out the blog and give us your feedback right here. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
447
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:45:00 -
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Sometimes Emergent Gameplay means dunking so hard you break the backboard!
I can't say we are happy about this decision, but we respect it. Being unwound is a good thing as it gets us our capital back, and at least shows CCP wanted to be fair here. I applaud that decision.
Highest Kill Value ever in EVE? http://imgur.com/1fSsT |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
509
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:46:00 -
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Yo the blog is broken.
e: Fixed now.
Aryth wins for the largest kill, but only because he had an iteron V pilot available. http://i.imgur.com/EE02F.png is what you can...er, could...do with bestowers. . |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
74
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:49:00 -
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I may not like what this graph represents, but I do like graphs. Content Designer | Team Five 0 @regnerBA |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3760
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:50:00 -
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"The person who reported the issue will receive the usual PLEX for Snitches reward."
aahahahahaha |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:50:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:I may not like what this graph represents, but I do like graphs.
We can agree without being agreeable "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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RAP ACTION HERO
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:51:00 -
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WELP |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
167
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:51:00 -
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:D
- Nulla Curas |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1204
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:52:00 -
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Could've been worse vOv a rogue goon |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3760
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:52:00 -
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That graph is one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen. |
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1185
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:53:00 -
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hey sreegs i hate to point this out but you seem to be missing an axis there well ok see ya |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
400
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:54:00 -
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SREEGS |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
167
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:54:00 -
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What sort of metrics does CCP watch for to catch these kinds of exploits? And what sort of systems can be put in place to understand why LP is coming from nothing, similar to how tech was coming from nothing under the previous silo duplication exploit? |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:54:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:hey sreegs i hate to point this out but you seem to be missing an axis there well ok see ya
whoops "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
509
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:55:00 -
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If he doesn't correct the graph, the major axis lines on it have to be at least 200m LP. . |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:56:00 -
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Kismeteer wrote:What sort of metrics does CCP watch for to catch these kinds of exploits? And what sort of systems can be put in place to understand why LP is coming from nothing, similar to how tech was coming from nothing under the previous silo duplication exploit?
Without getting into too much detail things as simple as watching top LP gains by player is a fairly simple one. If you look at the graph provided you really only had to look at the LP at all to see it spike. The other indicator is LP by faction. All the other factions are kinda even keep and Minmitar was like OH HI!
:edit: I just realized I only half answered your question but I want to leave it that way for the time being. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
447
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:56:00 -
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That graph is a thing of beauty. I like it how it has 5 points too, with one little baby point down at the bottom. That was probably querns. You can just hear the glass shattering!
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:57:00 -
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corestwo wrote:If he doesn't correct the graph, the major axis lines on it have to be at least 200m LP.
The graph was edited on purpose as we didn't see the value in divulging the number. The disparity is what's important. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
447
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:57:00 -
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corestwo wrote:If he doesn't correct the graph, the major axis lines on it have to be at least 200m LP.
Sshh. They just handed us more data that only we know the true axis on. Heheheheh. Reverse engineer! |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1185
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:57:00 -
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sort of a Daily Mail graph then |
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
809
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:58:00 -
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Shouldn't they also retain LP equivalent to 2 weeks worth of 'normal' game play?
They were playing, they did let you know and they did participate in Faction Warfare.
A list of fixes for the new inventory
Dual Pane idea clicky |
Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
123
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:58:00 -
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Something had to be done - I think even the ones directly involved wouldn't argue about that.
Not too heavy handed, not too dismissive, a good middle point.
Still, I'd looooooooove to see a tiny, minuscule, diminutive admission by the lead designer(s) that the way FW was changed was so prone to abuse that it practically required the exploiting of those new mechanics by the Group Of Online Notorious 'Sploiters.
Still, CCP Sreegs best Sreegs. << THE RABBLE BRIGADE >> |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3764
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:59:00 -
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Is it an exploit to take advantage of a naturally occuring disparity between market price and average price? In essence, can I farm this system if I didn't tamper with the average price in any way? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
509
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:59:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:corestwo wrote:If he doesn't correct the graph, the major axis lines on it have to be at least 200m LP. The graph was edited on purpose as we didn't see the value in divulging the number. The disparity is what's important.
Sorry to spoil your secrecy then . |
Nex apparatu5
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
297
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Posted - 2012.06.28 15:59:00 -
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CCP resolved this fairly and reasonably.
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL CCP |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:00:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Shouldn't they also retain LP equivalent to 2 weeks worth of 'normal' game play?
They were playing, they did let you know and they did participate in Faction Warfare.
I really don't want to discuss actions against individual players any more than was detailed in the blog for informational purposes. Sorry duder. "Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012 |
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Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:01:00 -
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Can we get a statue in Yulai or something |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1185
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:01:00 -
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then we can shoot at it until the fantastic five get their money back |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
447
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:03:00 -
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Other posts bring up a intersting point though. If in the future, after the system is fixed/revamped whatever. If this becomes slightly possible again but not to the degree shown here, would that be legal? I am not trying to words lawyer, just trying to see where the boundary is.
Once something is reported, and time gone by to remediate, does anything after that pass muster? |
Swearte Widfarend
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
114
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Posted - 2012.06.28 16:06:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Is it an exploit to take advantage of a naturally occuring disparity between market price and average price? In essence, can I farm this system if I didn't tamper with the average price in any way?
Aryth wrote:Other posts bring up a intersting point though. If in the future, after the system is fixed/revamped whatever. If this becomes slightly possible again but not to the degree shown here, would that be legal? I am not trying to words lawyer, just trying to see where the boundary is.
Once something is reported, and time gone by to remediate, does anything after that pass muster?
Sreegs - if we do not manipulate prices but do research to take advantage of existing market values, is this still exploiting? Your blog seems to hint that it is. Democracy is only as good as the despot managing the voting booth. |
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