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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
483
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:08:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Morganta wrote:I unsubbed and named the ISD as a reason, that will go up the chain quicker than the 2 month petition line This is literally the best news GD has seen in weeks. Good riddance to you and your shitposting.
Yes, thank god. Or the ISD team, for helping you finalize your decision to leave us for good. Morganta, can we get your final sub date so we can count the days? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2139
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:08:00 -
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Suqq Madiq wrote:Morganta wrote:I unsubbed and named the ISD as a reason, that will go up the chain quicker than the 2 month petition line This is literally the best news GD has seen in weeks. Good riddance to you and your shitposting.
Reported for Offensive name.
Nah, I don't try to censor people's expressing themselves. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
483
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:09:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
First casualty of a much needed cleanup of GD. I welcome it. My thread served its purpose.
Edit: That is, it twas made to help me find out what the hell is going on with GD tonight. And I found out. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Jason Marshall
Born-2-Kill
40
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:10:00 -
[124] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Flooding the forums with useless threads is effective? Effective at getting people banned, maybe.
Did this really start because of a thread about shirt tucking options? That's what sparked the big fire. ISD Stensson locked a thread as Spam just because it happened to be posted while there was some dissent over the role of volunteer moderators on the EvE-O forums. Turns out putting your Lock button on a Macro has some consequences. So a guy goes a little trigger happy on one thread and suddenly the forums turn into L.A. ca. 1992?
Too soon.
RIP Mr. King I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1618
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:11:00 -
[125] - Quote
Suqq Madiq wrote:Morganta wrote:I unsubbed and named the ISD as a reason, that will go up the chain quicker than the 2 month petition line This is literally the best news GD has seen in weeks. Good riddance to you and your shitposting.
lol enjoy your new computer generated name
and if you really knew anything you would call it the best news in years
"You were the chosen one Anikin, you were supposed to bring order to the universe, not destroy it!" -Obi Wan (Ben) Kenobe |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
483
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:11:00 -
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Jason Marshall wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Flooding the forums with useless threads is effective? Effective at getting people banned, maybe.
Did this really start because of a thread about shirt tucking options? That's what sparked the big fire. ISD Stensson locked a thread as Spam just because it happened to be posted while there was some dissent over the role of volunteer moderators on the EvE-O forums. Turns out putting your Lock button on a Macro has some consequences. So a guy goes a little trigger happy on one thread and suddenly the forums turn into L.A. ca. 1992? Too soon. RIP Mr. King I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.
Can't we all just get along? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:12:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote: I just said that the Experiment and story behind it are hilarious (but for the torture).
Man ive HAD toenails removed surgically without anesthesia. Torture aint funny (mind you that was a DOCTOR so I even knew it was gonna end at some point I still cant imagine what that would be like without that part) I had a Doc at an Urgent care try to reset my smashed wrist with a Hematoma block that hadn't yet taken effect. This was after waiting for 4 hours (90+min of which were alone in an exam room. The perfect place for a trauma patient who's pale, diaphoretic, and complaining of 10/10 pain). Oh, and I had to teach the X-Ray techs how to reapply a splint because they thought they couldn't take an X-ray through a cardboard splint. I had the Doc call me an ambulance to take me to a real doctor after I just barely stopped myself from slugging him.
lol I was in a mosh pit at a Deathklokk concert, where I elbowwed a guy in the head (he punched me in the nuts I thought it justified) SO HARD it shattered my elbow (4 surgeries on the elbow so far since they cut out the bone rather than keep fixing it) and destabilized my shoulder so I had to get it reconstructed - I know that kind of pain lol
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2139
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:12:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
307
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:13:00 -
[129] - Quote
What I sent to CCP on the topic...
Quote:I gotta say this recruitment drive is hauling a poor crop indeed. Check out this one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts=125679=unreadNo empathy - check. No effort at all to help - check. Immediately close the user's thread without any chance for the community to help - check. Link the customer to an already closed thread - check. Forums are to communicate and to lessen the burden of support - basically the cost of it. If you empower a group of drones who fail to understand that they at some level need to represent your company as well as mindlessly apply "rules" then you are doing yourself a great disservice. Why you even let them say "rules" is beyond me. Forum moderation is 100% subjective and dependent on infinite combinations of context. Make your people say "guidelines". Semantically the same thing, provides infinite wriggle room and is not as confrontational to the customer. Who is educating your moderators? Moderators should be polite, but firm. Most importantly they should give the customer a feeling they appreciate their position, even if they privately could not care less. I have no idea where you are getting these people, but Gods you are creating a miserable time for yourself down the track.
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
483
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:14:00 -
[130] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums.
Neither have I. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:16:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums.
eh?
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Jason Marshall
Born-2-Kill
41
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:17:00 -
[132] - Quote
Graic Gabtar wrote:What I sent to CCP on the topic... Quote:I gotta say this recruitment drive is hauling a poor crop indeed. Check out this one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts=125679=unreadNo empathy - check. No effort at all to help - check. Immediately close the user's thread without any chance for the community to help - check. Link the customer to an already closed thread - check. Forums are to communicate and to lessen the burden of support - basically the cost of it. If you empower a group of drones who fail to understand that they at some level need to represent your company as well as mindlessly apply "rules" then you are doing yourself a great disservice. Why you even let them say "rules" is beyond me. Forum moderation is 100% subjective and dependent on infinite combinations of context. Make your people say "guidelines". Semantically the same thing, provides infinite wriggle room and is not as confrontational to the customer. Who is educating your moderators? Moderators should be polite, but firm. Most importantly they should give the customer a feeling they appreciate their position, even if they privately could not care less. I have no idea where you are getting these people, but Gods you are creating a miserable time for yourself down the track.
They deleted the thread. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2140
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:19:00 -
[133] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh?
A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
604
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:20:00 -
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Jason Marshall wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:
We do agree on a a few points, I will grant you that.Where we appear to differ is on our approach to the game and the community. I feel no special sense of entitlement just because I have played for a long time, what I do feel is a need for decency.
As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly.
What we need is for people to stop making things up as they go along, and then getting angry over those things that they just made up. If you get angry over facts, that is one thing, but to get angry over something that comes only from the inside of your head, well that's just plain silly.
Learn the facts first, post second.
I agree the methods ive backed in this case aren't the most condusive to constructive argument but it is a method most proven to get CCP's attention, I have a little regret with the means we chose but we didn't have many to chose from. I want to apologize to you if I ever personally attacked your person, I cant be sure if I did or not but if I did I really am sorry I genuinely try to remain level headed and reasonable while following Wheatons Law but Eve's community and how CCP interacts with it has always been a big thing for me so I can see if I might have. I do have a problem with this though: "As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly." Im not convinced they are getting enough oversight. And if they are I want it to be made very clear that the moderators are acting like CCP wants them to ask. If CCP has decided that they want to white wash the forums and make them more strict than they have in the past then thats fine. But right now the moderation doesnt feel like CCP it feels like a few kids got keys to the city and are doing what they please. I never ignored any of your points I read through them all and learned a few things. But you can't believe that these people are acting like a paid employee would be acting when it comes to how they operate. Their next paycheck isn't coming from CCP. Up until recently we know who the moderators were, we knew they were CCP employees. At the very least we need to know who these volunteers are, yes that might come with some negative effects ingame with people hunting them just to get a kill on a forum mod, but it will keep them honest and if they are truly interested in helping the community that will be the small price they pay. And honestly this is eve..I would get in on a headhunt for some asshat that did a good guy wrong.
Thank you for a pleasantly worded post, it makes a nice change. I'm pretty sure you have never attacked me personally, but I do appreciate the apology just in case When it comes to moderation of its staff, CCP take it very seriously, to the point of installing their own Internal Affairs department to oversee any major issues. One of the links I provided earlier on describes in detail how CCP monitors its volunteers, even offering up an example of one who did not quite come up to scratch and was subsequently let go.
I also think it rather unfair to assume that just because somebody is an unpaid volunteer, that they have any less passion or integrity than someone who receives financial compensation in the form of wages. You only need to look at people who volunteer in soup kitchens, homeless shelters and other such things all around the world to see an example of what I mean. They do it because they are passionate enough about it to do it for free. Without wanting to downplay or dismiss the fine work done by CCP's paid staff, I think it says a lot for the volunteers that they would wade through pages of rubbish, and do it for free.
And as for knowing who ISD staff are, that will never happen, and never should. It should be shockingly clear to anyone paying attention that some people do not know when to let go, or where to draw the line, and to have ISD staff exposed publicly would basically mean the end of their EVE gaming career. You cannot in all honesty think that such a situation is fair.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
Janet Marshall
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:21:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie.
\o/ I can say I have never registered on SA either!
(They will never find me now!) |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:22:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie.
Snigwaffe isnt goons?
oh PL lol I dont do 0.0 obviously http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Janet Marshall
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:23:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. Snigwaffe isnt goons?
Sniggardly has never been goon afaik. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
307
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:23:00 -
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Jason Marshall wrote:They deleted the thread. Bah.
Shows just how bad it was.
The OP created a thread saying "Hey guys can you help I have this error..."
And the ISD in about 3 milliseconds the response was closed thread and closer of "NO DUPLICATE THREADS! THE RIGHT THREAD IS HERE!"
And he linked to some closed thread. The OP re-posted in a huff and THAT was the start of the madness, not the tucked in shirt - that was the second error.
EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
483
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:23:00 -
[139] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. Snigwaffe isnt goons?
Nope! Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Antisocial Malkavian
Aliastra Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:24:00 -
[140] - Quote
Ya I went an looked at it the waffe made me think of goonwaffe lol http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
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Ituhata
The Scope Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:25:00 -
[141] - Quote
I always thought sniggwaffe was PL. I've only ever lived in the south. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2140
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:26:00 -
[142] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. Snigwaffe isnt goons? oh PL lol I dont do 0.0 obviously
Nope Waffles isn't goons. Neither is PL.
We all get painted with the same brush by a lot of carebears because we sometimes make them mad too (also because of OTEC) This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
killorbekilled TBE
Dare Bears
104
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:26:00 -
[143] - Quote
My self and all my alts support this get rid of them srs huh? |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2140
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:27:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ya I went an looked at it the waffe made me think of goonwaffe lol
I think Waffles had the original Goonswarm alliance name for a while. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Janet Marshall
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:32:00 -
[145] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:Jason Marshall wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:
We do agree on a a few points, I will grant you that.Where we appear to differ is on our approach to the game and the community. I feel no special sense of entitlement just because I have played for a long time, what I do feel is a need for decency.
As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly.
What we need is for people to stop making things up as they go along, and then getting angry over those things that they just made up. If you get angry over facts, that is one thing, but to get angry over something that comes only from the inside of your head, well that's just plain silly.
Learn the facts first, post second.
I agree the methods ive backed in this case aren't the most condusive to constructive argument but it is a method most proven to get CCP's attention, I have a little regret with the means we chose but we didn't have many to chose from. I want to apologize to you if I ever personally attacked your person, I cant be sure if I did or not but if I did I really am sorry I genuinely try to remain level headed and reasonable while following Wheatons Law but Eve's community and how CCP interacts with it has always been a big thing for me so I can see if I might have. I do have a problem with this though: "As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly." Im not convinced they are getting enough oversight. And if they are I want it to be made very clear that the moderators are acting like CCP wants them to ask. If CCP has decided that they want to white wash the forums and make them more strict than they have in the past then thats fine. But right now the moderation doesnt feel like CCP it feels like a few kids got keys to the city and are doing what they please. I never ignored any of your points I read through them all and learned a few things. But you can't believe that these people are acting like a paid employee would be acting when it comes to how they operate. Their next paycheck isn't coming from CCP. Up until recently we know who the moderators were, we knew they were CCP employees. At the very least we need to know who these volunteers are, yes that might come with some negative effects ingame with people hunting them just to get a kill on a forum mod, but it will keep them honest and if they are truly interested in helping the community that will be the small price they pay. And honestly this is eve..I would get in on a headhunt for some asshat that did a good guy wrong. Thank you for a pleasantly worded post, it makes a nice change. I'm pretty sure you have never attacked me personally, but I do appreciate the apology just in case When it comes to moderation of its staff, CCP take it very seriously, to the point of installing their own Internal Affairs department to oversee any major issues. One of the links I provided earlier on describes in detail how CCP monitors its volunteers, even offering up an example of one who did not quite come up to scratch and was subsequently let go. I also think it rather unfair to assume that just because somebody is an unpaid volunteer, that they have any less passion or integrity than someone who receives financial compensation in the form of wages. You only need to look at people who volunteer in soup kitchens, homeless shelters and other such things all around the world to see an example of what I mean. They do it because they are passionate enough about it to do it for free. Without wanting to downplay or dismiss the fine work done by CCP's paid staff, I think it says a lot for the volunteers that they would wade through pages of rubbish, and do it for free. And as for knowing who ISD staff are, that will never happen, and never should. It should be shockingly clear to anyone paying attention that some people do not know when to let go, or where to draw the line, and to have ISD staff exposed publicly would basically mean the end of their EVE gaming career. You cannot in all honesty think that such a situation is fair.
Its not that I automatically assume the volunteers aren't genuinely interested in helping. Its that I know for everyone of that type their are 100 more who just want the power. Everything you have linked regarding CCP policies I have read the devblog for (most for the second time has I read them when they were originally posted). You cannot convince me that all of the current moderators are genuine nor experienced eve players and longtime community members if all I have to go on is the last month or so of their moderation. Its just such a change from the norm. I want to get confirmation that they are following guidelines and defentions outlined by CCP. Their is no harm in posting the guidelines and definitions the volunteers have to follow. But im not convinced their are any. This thread not being locked is a case in point, the currently active mods are fine with it but Sten and that other guy from earlier would have had it locked 7 pages ago.
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Jason Marshall
Born-2-Kill
41
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:35:00 -
[146] - Quote
Janet Marshall wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:Jason Marshall wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:
We do agree on a a few points, I will grant you that.Where we appear to differ is on our approach to the game and the community. I feel no special sense of entitlement just because I have played for a long time, what I do feel is a need for decency.
As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly.
What we need is for people to stop making things up as they go along, and then getting angry over those things that they just made up. If you get angry over facts, that is one thing, but to get angry over something that comes only from the inside of your head, well that's just plain silly.
Learn the facts first, post second.
I agree the methods ive backed in this case aren't the most condusive to constructive argument but it is a method most proven to get CCP's attention, I have a little regret with the means we chose but we didn't have many to chose from. I want to apologize to you if I ever personally attacked your person, I cant be sure if I did or not but if I did I really am sorry I genuinely try to remain level headed and reasonable while following Wheatons Law but Eve's community and how CCP interacts with it has always been a big thing for me so I can see if I might have. I do have a problem with this though: "As I tried to point out earlier, if you knew anything at all about the way CCP staff are trained and regulated, you would already have known that they DO have guidelines to follow, and as is pointed out very clearly in a link I provided earlier, all the ISD members are carefully monitored by the higher ups to ensure that they do their job properly." Im not convinced they are getting enough oversight. And if they are I want it to be made very clear that the moderators are acting like CCP wants them to ask. If CCP has decided that they want to white wash the forums and make them more strict than they have in the past then thats fine. But right now the moderation doesnt feel like CCP it feels like a few kids got keys to the city and are doing what they please. I never ignored any of your points I read through them all and learned a few things. But you can't believe that these people are acting like a paid employee would be acting when it comes to how they operate. Their next paycheck isn't coming from CCP. Up until recently we know who the moderators were, we knew they were CCP employees. At the very least we need to know who these volunteers are, yes that might come with some negative effects ingame with people hunting them just to get a kill on a forum mod, but it will keep them honest and if they are truly interested in helping the community that will be the small price they pay. And honestly this is eve..I would get in on a headhunt for some asshat that did a good guy wrong. Thank you for a pleasantly worded post, it makes a nice change. I'm pretty sure you have never attacked me personally, but I do appreciate the apology just in case When it comes to moderation of its staff, CCP take it very seriously, to the point of installing their own Internal Affairs department to oversee any major issues. One of the links I provided earlier on describes in detail how CCP monitors its volunteers, even offering up an example of one who did not quite come up to scratch and was subsequently let go. I also think it rather unfair to assume that just because somebody is an unpaid volunteer, that they have any less passion or integrity than someone who receives financial compensation in the form of wages. You only need to look at people who volunteer in soup kitchens, homeless shelters and other such things all around the world to see an example of what I mean. They do it because they are passionate enough about it to do it for free. Without wanting to downplay or dismiss the fine work done by CCP's paid staff, I think it says a lot for the volunteers that they would wade through pages of rubbish, and do it for free. And as for knowing who ISD staff are, that will never happen, and never should. It should be shockingly clear to anyone paying attention that some people do not know when to let go, or where to draw the line, and to have ISD staff exposed publicly would basically mean the end of their EVE gaming career. You cannot in all honesty think that such a situation is fair. Its not that I automatically assume the volunteers aren't genuinely interested in helping. Its that I know for everyone of that type their are 100 more who just want the power. Everything you have linked regarding CCP policies I have read the devblog for (most for the second time has I read them when they were originally posted). You cannot convince me that all of the current moderators are genuine nor experienced eve players and longtime community members if all I have to go on is the last month or so of their moderation. Its just such a change from the norm. I want to get confirmation that they are following guidelines and defentions outlined by CCP. Their is no harm in posting the guidelines and definitions the volunteers have to follow. But im not convinced their are any. This thread not being locked is a case in point, the currently active mods are fine with it but Sten and that other guy from earlier would have had it locked 7 pages ago.
Post with you main Janet. |
Dalmont Delantee
The Black Legionnares SpaceMonkey's Alliance
28
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:44:00 -
[147] - Quote
Posting in a WAA WAA thread because someone is actually stopping stupid trolls and morons from filling up general discussion with the same threads....
Though the isd thakept on referred people to a thread they had closed rather than the official whine thread was funny :P |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
153
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:44:00 -
[148] - Quote
Guys we need to calm down and stop posting, but if they still haras us in future by blocking good therads we smash them, by some protest act etc, this is out of conrol so far, but we need calm down, we see what happens in next days. Teemo for president. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1622
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:45:00 -
[149] - Quote
Dalmont Delantee wrote:Posting in a WAA WAA thread because someone is actually stopping stupid trolls and morons from filling up general discussion with the same threads....
Though the isd thakept on referred people to a thread they had closed rather than the official whine thread was funny :P
wow 4 TOS violations in a single post
better be careful of what you wish for citizen
"You were the chosen one Anakin, you were supposed to bring order to the galaxy, not destroy it!" -Obi Wan (Ben) Kenobi -á |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
604
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Posted - 2012.06.26 05:52:00 -
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Jason Marshall wrote:
Its not that I automatically assume the volunteers aren't genuinely interested in helping. Its that I know for everyone of that type their are 100 more who just want the power. Everything you have linked regarding CCP policies I have read the devblog for (most for the second time has I read them when they were originally posted). You cannot convince me that all of the current moderators are genuine nor experienced eve players and longtime community members if all I have to go on is the last month or so of their moderation. Its just such a change from the norm. I want to get confirmation that they are following guidelines and defentions outlined by CCP. Their is no harm in posting the guidelines and definitions the volunteers have to follow. But im not convinced their are any. This thread not being locked is a case in point, the currently active mods are fine with it but Sten and that other guy from earlier would have had it locked 7 pages ago.
I can understand why you would want to have the guidelines published, but as with many things in EVE, if they were to publish them, people would abuse them and attempt to find loopholes, which in turn would just create more spam and less actual content.
As for the experience and background of the ISD members, CCP state more than once that the basic requirements are just that, basic. If you honestly believe that they will hire just anyone, then perhaps you do not know them as well as you claim to. I cannot, and will not enter in to an argument as to the level of experience that each and every ISD member has, but I have enough faith in CCP to feel safe in the knowledge that the people they take on to perform these tasks are up to the job.
Do not allow personal bias, infantile rhetoric from others, or a feeling of self entitlement to cloud your judgement, it serves only to make you look foolish. You do not strike me as a fool, merely someone caught up in the flood of silliness unleashed by other less informed individuals, and do not forget that some people who may appear supportive have a pre-existing axe to grind and will only be around for as long as it suits their purpose.
What I guess I'm saying is don't be a sheep, follow the facts, use good judgement and you will do just fine.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
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