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Quaxtl
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:35:00 -
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It's because people are too lazy* or/and don't know anything about the candidates**, not because they think it is just a facade on the part of CCP.
*(be it being on the forums and not being arsed to follow the links, or finding out about it just as they log into the game... meaning it passes from memory pretty darn quickly) **(they could do with a bit more coverage)
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cal nereus
Koshaku Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 22/05/2008 19:39:26
My views are simple: in a democracy, you aren't electing someone to represent the majority of citizens/players (mob rule), but rather you are electing someone liked by the majority of people who actually care enough to vote. And that's about as good as any democracy gets. We don't need everyone's voice being heard, just the ones that are shouting loudest.
Besides, it is just a game. Most players don't care, especially since they know the CSM won't have much of an impact on their gameplay (for now). ---
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Axexut
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:00:00 -
[123]
First - Congrats to Ms. Jobse . . . good campaign points and the only one who took the effort IMO.
Second - If they really wanted to make this council mean someting - Chribba and Theo Samaritan should both be permanent members.
Third - 11% turnout (considering how many keep their accounts active, that this is a video game at the end of the day, and given the turnout in most RL elections) isn't that bad.
Now - if the Council actually does do all it promised . . . I'd bet the turnout on the next one is MUCH higher.
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Markus Vaughn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:13:00 -
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I voted myself near the end of the time allotted, however I suspect that a majority of people didn't vote on two things. First is that it's been generally established a very small minority read the official forums avidly than the rest of the gaming community, hence they wouldn't know much about the voting. And second, I believe that most people didn't think anything important will happen after, the game will still go on. -------------- "Politics. As exciting as war. Definitely as dangerous... Though in war, you can only get killed once. In politics it can happen over and over."
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:46:00 -
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BHAHAHAHAAAAA 11.8%? is that true? BHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA
Just as i thought, and u know whats worse? of that 11.8% prolly almost 50% are alt votes as well.
Heres to u ccp for wasting all our time with another useless scheme. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Shadow Joy
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:51:00 -
[126]
Why vote for the CSM? I don't know any of the candidates and don't think they will have much (if any) affect on the direction of the game.
Far as I am concerned the only EVE vote that matters is my renewed subscription.
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
I have six good reasons not to run myself
Truth, you got it right :)
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Daelin Blackleaf
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I personally dont believe in majority voting when it comes to picking the best candidate for this job.
This.
...and I feel CCP should take responsibility for their product, without middlemen, scapegoats, or any other unnecessary layers of bureaucracy between them and their customers.
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xithus
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:41:00 -
[129]
tbo if ccp wants to change the game not a thing any of the csm say is going to change that, under that setting this is basically a pr thing and a few people get a free trip to iceland, I dont care about either so I did not vote end of story.
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CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
Originally by: mama guru What the hell is it needed for anyway?
The premise was to have independent observers making sure no more devs hand out valuable commodities to their corpmates.
which would be impossible if they had a save system like ANY other mmo i have ever heard of (only talking about mmo's where i have heard of how the mechanic works for the usage of dev/gm "accounts" )..
it is bs that they couldn't manage such a little task from the start, and like the caunsel will have any way in hell of stopping them doing it anyway... not like they can actually catch them, it is clear luck and stupidity from a devs side if he get caught doing so.... ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
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Pixish
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:23:00 -
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1) Didn't know any of them.
2) I hate voting in RL.. why would i want to do it in a game.
3) I'm not going to spend time reading some guys BS story on why he deserves it.
4) If its not a little pop up window inside the game then i wouldn't of done it anyways (but then i would of just picked the person with the stupidest name)
5) Lazy
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Element 22
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:40:00 -
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Hypothesis: A representative democracy is best served when those voting are informed about the procedures of the job, the powers delegated to the Representatives, and how to remove those Representatives from power if they err.
I know nothing of the individuals, sure, I have their pages, but without actual interaction with them or real time observation of their actions. I might as well vote for Huckleberry Finn in that case.
CCP hasn't conclusively stated their powers, limits and general duties, and I cannot in good faith vote anyone into power without a clear understanding of the circumstances under which they will be exercising their power.
When will elections be held again? Next year? every 4 years? Never? And is there a method for impeaching them? All very important questions.
Conclusion: While my hypothesis is correct, the conditions necessary for the voter (in this case being the author) to fulfill the obligations in said hypothesis are missing and thus the voter (i.e. the author) cannot vote in good faith. Signatures are annoying...kinda like me. |
Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.23 00:58:00 -
[133]
Hay guys let's all vote for people we've never heard of so that they can get a free trip to another country to decide nothing about the video game we play. -------
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Malaan Tabfassh
The Flowing Penguins
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:08:00 -
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I abstained, so I did not not vote , I don't want to be represented by anyone in this videogame. After all that's all what it is.
Maybe PR-like CCP would have done better with a lottery and 9 people win free trips to iceland every month
Well have fun you 9 and don't forget to bring enough money for beer.
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Kinkie Yuuki
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:08:00 -
[135]
I voted for LaVista Vista coz hes so handsome.
Actually because I received a corp mail telling me to.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z Hay guys let's all vote for people we've never heard of so that they can get a free trip to another country to decide nothing about the video game we play.
Jealousy becomes you.
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illusha
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 01:30:00 -
[137]
I was busy having sex with your mom
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Manic Smile
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.05.23 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Manic Smile on 23/05/2008 03:57:20 I did vote, I chose the guy named "Abstain"...am i doing it right?
seriously I don't think this is anything but a publicity stunt on CCPs part...here's hoping I'm wrong
also history shows that the more meaningful options there are in an election that support the population base the more voters there will be...so apparently only 10% felt represented
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Ivan Kinsikor
Void Engineers
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Posted - 2008.05.23 05:07:00 -
[139]
I didn't vote because anything spawned from these forums is doomed to fail.
I mean, seriously, the only reason to come here is to laugh at CAOD and the ship and fittings board. ---------------------------------------- *****es don't know 'bout my nano'd Titan ---------------------------------------- |
Khamal Jolstien
Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:05:00 -
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I thought it was a bad idea. I actually chose Abstain.
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Joshua Foiritain
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 23/05/2008 07:09:47
Originally by: Adonis 4174
Originally by: mama guru What the hell is it needed for anyway?
The premise was to have independent observers making sure no more devs hand out valuable commodities to their corpmates.
From what i understand that idea was phased out a long time ago, todays CSM gets to advise CCP on what features the players want, either so CCP can stop reading the forums or so that they have a scapegoat to point at when the community goes on another riot.
All in all, waste of time tbh.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.05.23 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Veldya Because it is pointless. Don't know any of the candidates, don't care for any reason they want the position and it won't do anything for us anyway. Waste of time and effort, sounds a lot like Faction Warfare.
This
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Master Beats
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Master Beats on 23/05/2008 08:00:11 So many negative vibe's from "whiners inc".
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Reven Cordelle
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Posted - 2008.05.23 09:43:00 -
[144]
I voted. The guy I voted for didn't win, but my second choice did. woo!
Its a shame that so many people put effort into their campaigns and no one really noticed.
Chances are most people were too busy posting killmails to be concerned about the CSM Election.
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Lillian Meilleur
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:12:00 -
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i think i voted jade at the very beginning with one of my accounts.
after that i couldnt really be bothered to find the link again.
so .. ****ty voting interface, well hidden and it being a computer game and all i reckon 11% is a good turn out.
also, welcome to democracy. if you dont put effort into motivating the people around you participate or dont even particiapte yourself (even just to abstain) then you have nothing to complain about.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:14:00 -
[146]
I thought, I'd better vote, so I searched for the link for about 15 minutes, found it, the page didn't work and timed out. I did this about 5 more times over the course of the voting, and I think once I managed to get in and cast 1 vote out of the 8 odd accounts I'm running. Basically, the page to vote sucked, and they burried it so it was much much harder to find out how to vote than it was to find out how 'good' ccp was for letting us vote.
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Wild Rho
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I personally dont believe in majority voting when it comes to picking the best candidate for this job.
Pretty much what I was thinking. Being a popular personality doesn't qualify someone to have a voice in the direction Eve should be going and I can't really trust any player not to push their own agenda in that regard either.
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