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Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Perssephone on 23/04/2008 11:14:09 So I spend 3 months building a moros on my own.
Sell said moros for 1.5b. GM reverses transaction because the buyer bought the isk with real money.
So i lose the moros, 1.5b and the will to continue my subscription.
Been told by a GM with a straight face that the isk has been removed and the ship will not be reimbursed.
way to go on pi**ing on your oldest customers CCP, now please all DIAF.
How is this fair in any way, shape or form?
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:04:00 -
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I don't know if you're trolling or not... just in case you're genuine, this is what I'd do. I'd escalate to a senior GM and keep pushing as opposed to wasting my time and everyone elses by whining on the forum.
R.
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Ethaet
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:04:00 -
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Get another GM to look at it, GMs are only supposed to remove the isk from the buyer, putting the buyer into negative balance. Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. |
Sopha Serpentia
Core Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sopha Serpentia on 23/04/2008 11:08:21 Your first mistake was called the GMs names, people generally don't like being insulted even if you think you are right.
I'd edit you post fast to be honest and take a more mature and reasonable approach. Venting never gets you anywhere, because NOBODY has to take that **** no matter how much you think your worth.
Secondly, after you change your post to a civilised request, ask for your patition to be esculated (sic?). I'll remind you also that posting on the forum should be a last resort, after esculation.
Also GM Nova did say nobody has ever lost isk from trading with someone who has boaught the stuff (isk), so I don't know who to believe here.
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Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Perssephone on 23/04/2008 11:13:03 Already asked for it to be escalated to a senior GM over 3 days ago to no reply.
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Sopha Serpentia
Core Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sopha Serpentia on 23/04/2008 11:11:49
Your doing it again *eyeroll* don't post what the GMs said to you!
Go out and take a deep breath. Basically your sabotaging yourself, nobody is going to help you with the attitude you have, and nobody is going to quit because of this post. Your only wasting your own time and damaging your relationship with CCP as a customer.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:10:00 -
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softly softly, catch ye senior GM
SKUNK
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Benco97
Gallente Exchangable Properties
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:11:00 -
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Calm down a little and wait on your Petition Escalation request, I'm sure it'll work out fine in the end. No need getting angry over it, it'll only make you feel bad.
Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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Anti Excedrin
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sopha Serpentia Edited by: Sopha Serpentia on 23/04/2008 11:10:40 Your doing it again *eyeroll* don't post what the GMs said to you!
You, please train 'reading comprehension' to level 1.
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Sopha Serpentia
Core Dynamics
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 Calm down a little and wait on your Petition Escalation request, I'm sure it'll work out fine in the end. No need getting angry over it, it'll only make you feel bad.
what he said
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Perssephone So I spend 3 months building a moros on my own.
Sell said moros for 1.5b. GM reverses transaction because the buyer bought the isk with real money.
So i lose the moros, 1.5b and the will to continue my subscription.
Been told by a GM with a straight face that the isk has been removed and the ship will not be reimbursed.
way to go on pi**ing on your oldest customers CCP, now please all DIAF.
How is this fair in any way, shape or form?
GMs are not perfect, and their decisions are sometimes reversed. Escalate the petition, and make sure you include all the relevent information.
Even though you clearly think this is very unfair, you will get better results if you make sure to word the petition as calmly and respectfully as possible. Threats to quit will be counter-productive, as will complaining about the specific GM.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Abyssal Angel
Caldari Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:15:00 -
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GM's have stated multiple times as have Dev's, that they will never remove isk that isnt bought.
So you most likely bought the isk and tried to spin a tale on the forums.
The only way for you to prove your word to us is by giving your full API key.
Sounds tough? Well it is a cold hard space :) FixedYay! have a cookie - Deckard
Originally by: CCP PrismX My name is Prism X and I support this message.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:16:00 -
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Looks like CCP is laying the smack down on the RMTers. Guess the new GM tools pay off.
If your story is correct you should get the moros back. Of course only if you didn't ebay that moros and just claim you build it. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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Ethaet
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ethaet on 23/04/2008 11:17:26
Originally by: Abyssal Angel GM's have stated multiple times as have Dev's, that they will never remove isk that isnt bought.
So you most likely bought the isk and tried to spin a tale on the forums.
The only way for you to prove your word to us is by giving your full API key.
Sounds tough? Well it is a cold hard space :)
I have seen 3 threads similar to this in the last 2 weeks as a matter of fact(and I am no big forum user). All of them were by people who had the misfortune to get caught in a GM screw up, had not bought any isk, and eventually got it back. edit: typo Seriously, we need some kind of separation between the post and signature. |
Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Abyssal Angel GM's have stated multiple times as have Dev's, that they will never remove isk that isnt bought.
So you most likely bought the isk and tried to spin a tale on the forums.
The only way for you to prove your word to us is by giving your full API key.
Sounds tough? Well it is a cold hard space :)
And you came to that "assertion" with all the evidence you don't have?. Way to go sherlock.
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Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar Looks like CCP is laying the smack down on the RMTers. Guess the new GM tools pay off.
If your story is correct you should get the moros back. Of course only if you didn't ebay that moros and just claim you build it.
Lmao, you're a lovely trusting, friendly lot arent you
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Tzar'rim
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 23/04/2008 11:28:59 - Do mistakes happen? yes, they happen when it comes to bans, GM's and whatnot.
- Do people make up stories or slighty alter the truth when it comes to posting on forums, trying to blame someone else for what happened? Yes that happens, and I'm guessing it happens a lot more than GM's making mistakes.
So as long as we're hearing only your side of the story can you blame us for being sceptical? |
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CCP Prism X
C C P
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:35:00 -
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I assume this was with a different character. At least I cannot locate the petition you refer to on Perssephone.
But what you describe is not our process. If you are innocent we don't reverse any of your transactions and if we were to accidently do it you'd at least get the Moros back as such is the nature of transaction reversals, they reverse the entire thing.
I addressed a similar issue here if you're interested in a further explanation. I'll look through your other accounts for you once the server comes up, it's tedious to do through the DB and I have defects to fix. |
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Tzar'rim
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 23/04/2008 11:36:41 Work harder! /cr@cks whip |
Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:38:00 -
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Making that moros was a bloody nightmare. Spending 2 to 3 months ratting in drone regions to build the thing, risking it getting blown up on the jump back to empire to sell, in turn to have the isk reversed and item not returned.
Trust me, if the moros was ebayed it wouldnt actually have pi**ed me off quite as much as no work would have gone into it.
I have a conversation with a GM in front of me which states that the moros was purchased from me with bought isk, then the same GM telling me that the ship will not be reimbursed.
Put yourself in that position for 5 seconds before crucifying me as a lying *****zor! |
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:40:00 -
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Perssephone reply to Prism. |
Phlegia
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Posted - 2008.04.23 12:02:00 -
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CCP Prism X places an excellent hit on Perssephone¦s credibility, inflicting awesome damage. |
Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.23 12:38:00 -
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Where do you people come from and why are you making these posts?
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Ja'kar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.04.23 12:45:00 -
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so the end result is???
MAFIA Website
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Skyr
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 12:50:00 -
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Please do not post spam - Navigator
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:06:00 -
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Taking bets on whether the OP will mysteriously stop replying or not. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:11:00 -
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Just catching up on some BSG
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RaTTuS
BIG Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:20:00 -
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And the result is .... -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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Perssephone
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:25:00 -
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so far GM Nova is on his mighty high horse which he keeps in his ivory tower with his bannination stick out and ready for action.
Love forum warrior GMs. He has already admitted that the initial GM finding was incorrect. And now he's asking me to apologise to you all for his teams mistakes. Man, delusions of grandure.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS And the result is ....
Partick Thistle 3.... Queen of the South... Nill
SKUNK
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