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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2894
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:55:00 -
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I heard that something was going down in this thread, and I'm all ears to hear what it is.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Frogzuk
Genesis Nation Gentlemen's Agreement
4
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Posted - 2012.02.24 17:08:00 -
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being deaf i fully support this thread....
i would also like to point out that there was a competition once, that i was not able to 'access' to stand a chance of winning the prizes due to my inability to hear .....
I have flown with many pilots in the game that have been incredibly understanding of my disability - you guys and girls know who you are <3 you all, whilst there remains a few that have not shown the same level of understanding - testament is the post earlier in this thread 'i am blind need braille' you sir are a sorry state of affairs, and I can only hope CCP see fit to put you in your place for trying to be a smart arse when on the contrary you were being a naive at best and ignorant at worse ....
I have even been called a r.e.tard for not being able to hear ...... yes .. well ... go figure |
Yesen
The Ostrogoths Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.25 04:23:00 -
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Hello, I'm deaf myself, I totally support his requested. There's more deaf folks in eve that needs understandable through vlogs, videos, etc... Let's bring back the subtitles :) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1268
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Posted - 2012.02.25 06:09:00 -
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I will probably be deaf someday from all the shooting I do...
Next challenge: EvE Online for the Blind.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
267
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Posted - 2012.02.25 09:30:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I'll do you one better: don't make us watch videos. I can hear, but I hate sitting through podcasts and vlogs and other such media trying to get two minutes of useful information out of 30 minutes of someone's babbling. NEVER put information only in video or audio format. It's not searchable and frankly it's annoying.
Agree. Devblog > all.
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Steve Celeste wrote:Just use the transcribe audio option, the eve trailers don't make sense anyway. They're actually quite funny when you use this.
And not when viewed 'normally'? this is a signature |
Steveir
Hagukure Empire Industry
31
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Posted - 2012.02.25 09:46:00 -
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Trust me, as you get older, it becomes harder to hear thing clearly (too much rock as a youngster). I love that MMOs (and Eve) allow you to communicate via typing - long may it last. Nothing depress me more than players saying to get on teamspeak (yes I know it makes for faster and better PvP/PVE).
Aside from subtitling, I hope CCP is checking to make sure that colour blindness issues are looked at too. |
Kehro Urgus
142
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Posted - 2012.02.25 09:58:00 -
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The first thing to go is the eyes. I'll be 44 next month and for the past few yeears I've had to deal with ocular migraines. Hard to play when you go blind in one eye at random times for an hour or so. I hear voices and they don't like you very much! |
Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers WUT ALLIANCE
16
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Posted - 2012.02.25 10:04:00 -
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totally agreeing with this. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
390
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Posted - 2012.02.25 10:15:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Perfectly reasonable request OP.
Hear Hear! You're heartless.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Sirinda
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
29
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Posted - 2012.02.25 10:34:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Poking the right people for you!
Good good. I'm not deaf myself but I do understand the problem. |
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Pyx Jasta
104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment Insane Asylum
40
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Posted - 2012.02.25 10:50:00 -
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This is a good request. Also kudos to Hiram Alexander for having subtitled many of them to now. |
Valei Khurelem
384
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Posted - 2012.02.25 10:54:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:Poking the right people for you! Good good. I'm not deaf myself but I do understand the problem.
If only there were more open minded and understanding people on the forum like you :)
Seriously not a troll, I'm getting bored of the retards here.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Sirinda
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
30
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Posted - 2012.02.25 11:10:00 -
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I only troll people who deserve it, and only if I can be arsed to do it. Mostly I'm just too apathetic to care about their antics, though. |
JamDunc
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
5
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Posted - 2012.02.25 11:30:00 -
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Can't see why this shouldn't be done. |
PointSlap
One For A Point Two For A Slap The Nest Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.25 12:12:00 -
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I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.
Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.
But i wish u the best of luck |
Frogzuk
Genesis Nation Gentlemen's Agreement
6
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Posted - 2012.02.25 13:58:00 -
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PointSlap wrote:I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.
Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.
But i wish u the best of luck
Under UK law, all business' must make their services accessible by those with disabilities (Disability discrimination act applies), now there is a grey area when it comes to 'web content', however, I understand there are guidelines in place for web content and accessibility to those with disabilities i.e. In 1999 the Web Accessibility Initiative, a project by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), published the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines WCAG 1.0. In recent years, these have been widely accepted as the definitive guidelines on how to create accessible websites see linkie :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Accessibility_Initiative
If CCP are providing content within their web pages akin to videos then at the minimum they need to consider those guidelines. By doing so, it would enhance their reputation for supporting what is a minor request for a small minority of players in the environment ... the value added far outweighs any legal obligations tbfh !
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Jonah Gravenstein
49
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:55:00 -
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I can get behind this idea myself, while not deaf myself I do sometimes struggle to understand the amusingly accented english in some of the CCP videos. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Valei Khurelem
384
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Posted - 2012.02.25 15:20:00 -
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Quote:Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand.
Those are the words of a feckless tool.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
killroy Atram
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
5
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Posted - 2012.02.25 17:34:00 -
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the OP should run for csm |
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CCP Loxy
C C P C C P Alliance
42
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Posted - 2012.02.25 18:07:00 -
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I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on. Video Producer |
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Swinefluu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.25 18:46:00 -
[51] - Quote
Also braille for the blind community |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
741
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Posted - 2012.02.25 19:03:00 -
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CCP Loxy wrote:I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on. Does this include Klingon? 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Mara Villoso
Big Box
63
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Posted - 2012.02.25 19:41:00 -
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PointSlap wrote:I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.
Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.
But i wish u the best of luck By that logic its not their job to provide localized clients or any content in any language other than Mandarin Chinese (or Spanish). But you know those damn Americans and their ******* English. Damn minorities and their demands. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1126
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Posted - 2012.02.25 20:21:00 -
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Mara Villoso wrote:PointSlap wrote:I do agree with the OP but i would however point out that it is not there job to provide subtitles on videos for the Minority.
Unfortunatley in this day and age that is the way things stand. Do not get me wrong, i do agree with you, as it really doesnt take much effort but they have no legal obligation to do it.
But i wish u the best of luck By that logic its not their job to provide localized clients or any content in any language other than Mandarin Chinese (or Spanish). But you know those damn Americans and their ******* English. Damn minorities and their demands.
I think the issue here is confusing the concepts of "obligation" and "just good business". No, CCP is NOT obligated to provide localization in your language, majority or otherwise.. but it would be a poor business decision not to. Same in this case.. they are not obligated to subtitle their vids, but it's a good idea to do so.
I'm glad they're going to subtitle the vids.. I know at least 2 Goons that are deaf, and they're p chill. |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
471
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Posted - 2012.02.25 20:26:00 -
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Swinefluu wrote:Also braille for the blind community
Don't be a ****.
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Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
587
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Posted - 2012.02.25 23:06:00 -
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Lina Miaoke wrote:
We are deaf, we cant understand your trailers, videos, and vlog. Because there is no English subtitles for those videos.
HTFU
Yeah yeah I'm going to hell.
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
81
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Posted - 2012.02.26 01:43:00 -
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I approve of this service for I, too, am hearing impaired.
I already struggle to hear my FC. How do you think I can hear your trailers with all that background noise? How may I drug you with drugs? |
Dersk
90040045
37
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Posted - 2012.02.26 01:50:00 -
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In space no one can hear your youtube videos. |
Kriz Lupin
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.26 02:01:00 -
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When I first started playing this game I had the pleasure of flying with a very competent deaf female pilot. Various people took the time to communicate voice comms as quickly as possible to private chat in pvp situations. There is no reason why ccp can't take the time to try to be supportive too and I am sure they will. |
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
156
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Posted - 2012.02.26 05:17:00 -
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CCP Loxy wrote:I can only speak for the Eve trailers on youtube, but I'll make sure they'll have English subs along with our other supported languages from now on. Nice move. Thank you.
Edit: - Oh, and a big thanks to kil2 for permission to use his videos.
I've sent a request to Agony Unleashed, also... but pending permission, here's their video on Tracking in PVP, and Spiralling-in... (Just uploaded/Stolen...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvfhVXbMgc8 |
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