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Lina Miaoke
The Ostrogoths Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:09:00 -
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Dear CCP,
We are deaf, we cant understand your trailers, videos, and vlog. Because there is no English subtitles for those videos. I've repeatedly asked this via forums and petitioning countless time across multiple accounts and characters, but never once did it make any difference.
I made a post regarding this back in Nov 2011 and got supports from various pilots. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=332103#post332103
And recently a post in one of CCP devblog that had vlog in it as well. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=844205#post844205
To my surprise a random dude (Hiram Alexander) I've never met before decided to subtitled that vlog for me and the deaf community. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKpxrMG-cWs&feature=share
He didn't stop there, but added yet another video with subtitling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGjs4cSKjEQ&context=C37ad537ADOEgsToPDskK198Zn7BmuM3q6e7xza6o7 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2xuh36Vd4U&context=C37ad537ADOEgsToPDskK198Zn7BmuM3q6e7xza6o7
But he shouldn't have to do your work. If he was able to do it, why cant you?
This wont only benefit the deaf community but also those who don't want to or cant for whatever reason use sound. It might even benefit those who cant understand the accents of the person in the video.
CCP, I am not asking you to subtitle all videos out there but, CCP own trailer, video, and vlog.
Please consider doing this.
Sincerely, The deaf community and all those that could benefit from this. |
testobjekt
Creative Accounting Institute
80
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:17:00 -
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I'm not deaf myself nor do i need subtitles, but I think CCP should do this.
There are people who cant hear and CCP should make important information aviable to them as well. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
149
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:21:00 -
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Perfectly reasonable request OP.
Hear Hear! |
Arkea Jindoi
Swedish Aerospace Inc The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:23:00 -
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Wholeheartedly supported. It isn't a hard thing to do, either.
It's actually a bit sad you even have to make a request for such a thing in this modern age. |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:23:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Hear Hear!
Damn, i wanted to post that.
Instead i'll settle with the suggestion that this request might ... wait for it ... fall on deaf ears. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Gerald Taric
F-H Schwerindustrie und Sicherheit KRAUTZ-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:32:00 -
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Lina Miaoke wrote:CCP, I am not asking you to subtitle all videos out there but, CCP own trailer, video, and vlog.
Please consider doing this.
Sincerely, The deaf community and all those that could benefit from this. Very reasonable request. I endorse it too. |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:44:00 -
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Lina Miaoke wrote:
But he shouldn't have to do your work. If he was able to do it, why cant you?
Probably because no one puts the needs of a minority in the forefront, unless of course they happen to belong to that minority. I am sure it's not through malice. But now since you've brought it up let's see how CCP reacts to this valid point.
On the other hand look on the bright side - the game itself is perfectly playable without sound. In fact I have no hearing impediment and I haven't had the sound turned on for years - so you're not missing much :) |
tikktokk tokkzikk
Glorious Revolution The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:54:00 -
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A request from the deaf community. Please hear us out CCP!
But yeah, totally support! |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:55:00 -
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to inject a little more humor (but no disrespect intended) I have to add.....
Eve has sound?
Now I've got that out of my system, I fully support this idea.
A little thing like this can go a long way not only to makea better gaming experience for deaf players, but it would also generate a fair bit of goodwill among the playerbase and wider gaming industry.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.24 12:58:00 -
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CCP, subtitle it! (I'm sure there will be a few native english speaker that would use them too since our Nordic accent isn't always the best haha)
/c
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:19:00 -
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Yep needs doing.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lutin Ballista
Ballista Investment Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:42:00 -
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testobjekt wrote:I'm not deaf myself nor do i need subtitles, but I think CCP should do this.
There are people who cant hear and CCP should make important information aviable to them as well.
Agreed. |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
70
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:51:00 -
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I completely agree, open the game up to more people with disabilities CCP (as long as the disability isn't "I used to play wow" or "I'm stupid, why I no mine in peace" |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:55:00 -
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EVE has no end of accessibility issues, but this requires minimal extra effort on CCP's part. I fully support this. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:57:00 -
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I am blind and was told about this thread, please could you add braille to your videos to help the blind community.
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Willmahh
Ace Adventure Corp Blue Meanies
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:57:00 -
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I also Think this would be good for a number of players and CCP. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.02.24 13:59:00 -
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Razzor Death wrote:I am blind and was told about this thread, please could you add braille to your videos to help the blind community.
Congrats, you're 'that guy' in this thread. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1099
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:01:00 -
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I have a friend who is hearing impaired that had this same complaint about EvE's video's. He always likes watching them but rarely has any idea that there is something else going on in the video.
Any chance of getting a CSM member to chime in some support and perhaps take this up at Fanfest or at least recommend it to CCP? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
70
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:02:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Razzor Death wrote:I am blind and was told about this thread, please could you add braille to your videos to help the blind community.
Congrats, you're 'that guy' in this thread.
click name, hide post, win
:D |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
750
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:09:00 -
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Deafness should not be a bar to enjoying Eve.
Sort it out CCP. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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Steve Celeste
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:13:00 -
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Just use the transcribe audio option, the eve trailers don't make sense anyway. |
Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:16:00 -
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I strongly support this. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
1019
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:16:00 -
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I'll do you one better: don't make us watch videos. I can hear, but I hate sitting through podcasts and vlogs and other such media trying to get two minutes of useful information out of 30 minutes of someone's babbling. NEVER put information only in video or audio format. It's not searchable and frankly it's annoying. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
1019
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:17:00 -
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Steve Celeste wrote:Just use the transcribe audio option, the eve trailers don't make sense anyway. They're actually quite funny when you use this. |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:26:00 -
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Am I the only person who read the OP and was unable to understand it due to "hearing" it in deaf-guy voice in their head?
Can someone who hasn't admitted to being deaf repost it. I have the terrible disabilty of reading things posted by people in what my subconscious assumes their voice to be like. I think CCP should implement something to help people like me, I'm being marginalized here. |
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CCP Paradox
107
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:39:00 -
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Poking the right people for you! CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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Cylide Askald
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.02.24 14:46:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Poking the right people for you!
\o/ I'm running for CSM: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=836203&#post836203 |
Merlin Centarii
Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:14:00 -
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Cylide Askald wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:Poking the right people for you! \o/
Get'er done. I fully support this having had a hearing impaired person in my corp. best damn scout i've ever had. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
1020
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:41:00 -
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Triskian wrote:Am I the only person who read the OP and was unable to understand it due to "hearing" it in deaf-guy voice in their head?
Can someone who hasn't admitted to being deaf repost it. I have the terrible disabilty of reading things posted by people in what my subconscious assumes their voice to be like. I think CCP should implement something to help people like me, I'm being marginalized here.
I see your problem. It's that Goonwaffe tag. Get that removed, it'll probably clear right up!
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Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:48:00 -
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Lina Miaoke wrote:
A request from the deaf community. Please hear us out CCP!
Seriously? |
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