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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Amarria Black
You attempted to distance yourself from the less-than-savory actions, on the boards, of members of your alliance. I stated that so long as you have Band of Brothers writ large below your name, you will be associated with their acts. How is this off-topic?
The point is that my alliance tag is irrelevent to the discussion. My points would have been equally valid if I had posted them from an alt, but more-so in your eyes, odd.
This isn't an inter-alliance point scoring excersise, and should not be used as such. That is counter-productive. I want the forums to be better. I try to post in a way that promotes that. I can hope that other people will make that effort, but I have no control over it.
I never stated that your points were invalid, nor that you personally had committed any sort of violation of your stated points. Another poster pointed out the irony of you calling for civility on the forums considering your alliance and the acts of others in said alliance. You took umbrage. I explained why you would be grouped with said unsavory individual. Now you've dictated that the whole discussion is off-topic.
So, question: are you uncomfortable with the fact that your stated goals run contrary to the actions of your associates?
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black I never stated that your points were invalid, nor that you personally had committed any sort of violation of your stated points. Another poster pointed out the irony of you calling for civility on the forums considering your alliance and the acts of others in said alliance. You took umbrage. I explained why you would be grouped with said unsavory individual. Now you've dictated that the whole discussion is off-topic.
So, question: are you uncomfortable with the fact that your stated goals run contrary to the actions of your associates?
My god, you are still trying to spin it. Firstly, the accusation was hypocrisy, not irony. There is a huge difference.
Secondly, I am uncomfortable that *anyone* needs to be abussive and offence on the forums, regardless what in game affiliation they hold. Why? Because this isn't an in game thing. We are talking about how the people (you remember people, right?) who play the game and use these forums are affected, not their characters.
If anything, your posts are a perfect example of people not being able to see the line. Avon does not read these forums, *I* do.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Trind2222
Amarr Celestial Pillagers Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Trind2222 on 02/11/2007 10:41:47 I agree whit Rells peaople on the forum need to grow up. Or take a beer and not post on the forum.
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:41:00 -
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Agrees with the OP (couldn't be bothered with the rest of the post, prolly just flames)
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:43:00 -
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These forums are a joke, its obvious the MODS cannot control them.
The truth of the matter is that they cannot beat u ingame, so try and do so on the forums..
The entire alliance forums should just be closed down as the community just cant be trusted to use them.
d solo.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Amarria Black I never stated that your points were invalid, nor that you personally had committed any sort of violation of your stated points. Another poster pointed out the irony of you calling for civility on the forums considering your alliance and the acts of others in said alliance. You took umbrage. I explained why you would be grouped with said unsavory individual. Now you've dictated that the whole discussion is off-topic.
So, question: are you uncomfortable with the fact that your stated goals run contrary to the actions of your associates?
My god, you are still trying to spin it. Firstly, the accusation was hypocrisy, not irony. There is a huge difference.
Secondly, I am uncomfortable that *anyone* needs to be abussive and offence on the forums, regardless what in game affiliation they hold. Why? Because this isn't an in game thing. We are talking about how the people (you remember people, right?) who play the game and use these forums are affected, not their characters.
If anything, your posts are a perfect example of people not being able to see the line. Avon does not read these forums, *I* do.
Ah, then you're the one who doesn't understand the line. I don't post on the forums, Amarria Black does. The line is real life. While I may loathe your in-game or forum persona, were someone to post your phone number or home address, I'd be the first to call for their head.
The forum is just as much game as the game itself.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black
Ah, then you're the one who doesn't understand the line. I don't post on the forums, Amarria Black does. The line is real life. While I may loathe your in-game or forum persona, were someone to post your phone number or home address, I'd be the first to call for their head.
The forum is just as much game as the game itself.
Nope, that only applies in the IC sections of the forums. We are talking about OOC insults, not IC ones. If it was IC flaming I could care less.
Like your Godwin invoking example. Your character would no nothing of that, and so would not have been able to use it as an example.
It is you that doesn't 'get' these forums.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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BIlloreilly
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: BIlloreilly on 02/11/2007 10:48:59
Originally by: General StarScream dude get real you blob fight in game, you have no ide what your talking about cuse of this, and boost amarr they stink, allso caldri cant pvp, since my missile allways hit for full dam and never miss. oh ya i cant use drones in my 75m Drone bay, since it like wont fit 5 heavy drones so it does no extra dam with drones. and like with my officer fitted cnr i can plow lvl4 missions , so make them harder pls pls, and amarr stink.
SLOW DOWN PLS!
+1
"Save the tree! Wipe your bunghole with an owl!"
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Polardegos
Gallente Venom. THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:51:00 -
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All my support to the OP. I would say that the majority of players agree with you, but very few of them bother to give their support because of the nature of the entire forum. ---------
God made me an atheist, who are you to question his wisdom? |
Goliath Scorpion
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.11.02 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo These forums are a joke, its obvious the MODS cannot control them.
The truth of the matter is that they cannot beat u ingame, so try and do so on the forums..
The entire alliance forums should just be closed down as the community just cant be trusted to use them.
d solo.
So fricking right on so many levels.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Amarria Black
Ah, then you're the one who doesn't understand the line. I don't post on the forums, Amarria Black does. The line is real life. While I may loathe your in-game or forum persona, were someone to post your phone number or home address, I'd be the first to call for their head.
The forum is just as much game as the game itself.
Nope, that only applies in the IC sections of the forums. We are talking about OOC insults, not IC ones. If it was IC flaming I could care less.
Like your Godwin invoking example. Your character would no nothing of that, and so would not have been able to use it as an example.
It is you that doesn't 'get' these forums.
You're still not getting it. In-game Amarria Black would know nothing of the facts of the earlier Godwin (and you're right, I was stretching for that one). Forum Warrior Amarria Black would, though, and wouldn't hesitate to use such tactics in order to "defeat" you. And neither is me, the person behind the keyboard.
Think of that Godwin as another meta-game tool, except this time it's the meta-forum game.
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BIlloreilly
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:08:00 -
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Lets move to the VN Boards. I heard those mods over there carry BAN STICKS
"Save the tree! Wipe your bunghole with an owl!"
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 02/11/2007 11:08:52
Originally by: Amarria Black
You're still not getting it. In-game Amarria Black would know nothing of the facts of the earlier Godwin (and you're right, I was stretching for that one). Forum Warrior Amarria Black would, though, and wouldn't hesitate to use such tactics in order to "defeat" you. And neither is me, the person behind the keyboard.
Think of that Godwin as another meta-game tool, except this time it's the meta-forum game.
You might be fooling yourself with that flimsy justification, but that's about it.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 02/11/2007 06:42:32 Its a daily occurrence that someone posts something well thought out and reasoned and instead of disagreeing with them like an adult and debating the issue, they have to be a jerk. They attack other poeple personally, flame, toss accusations and so on. Cant people just bloody growup?
No ... dont answer that question, I already know the answer.
This place is sewer. Full of people that use internet anonymity to do things that would earn them two knocked out teeth in real life.
P.S. If you are going to reply and flame, have some balls and post with your main.
In case it hasn't already been said:
The Theory
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Oris Pricington
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 02/11/2007 11:08:52
Originally by: Amarria Black
You're still not getting it. In-game Amarria Black would know nothing of the facts of the earlier Godwin (and you're right, I was stretching for that one). Forum Warrior Amarria Black would, though, and wouldn't hesitate to use such tactics in order to "defeat" you. And neither is me, the person behind the keyboard.
Think of that Godwin as another meta-game tool, except this time it's the meta-forum game.
You might be fooling yourself with that flimsy justification, but that's about it.
This from the person who is convinced that forums = serious business.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:16:00 -
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... Yeah, that was me. Bloody forum, coded by drunken epileptic apes hopped up on smack.
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Babel
Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:19:00 -
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Attention, pure and simple. Even someone reacting 'omg, what a complete XXXX!' is still attention of some sort and will bring a smile of 'Someone noticed me' victory to someone that gets off on that kinda thing ... It's kinda sad but not really possible to change unless you head round a troll's house and give them kisses and stuff and say something like 'It's OK, I think your important' <3
ofc - the option of reading something else instead when the XXXXX-alert sounds is always there too :)
URIEL Recruiting
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black Yeah, that was me.
So it is *you* posting, regardless of which character you use?
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Amarria Black Yeah, that was me.
So it is *you* posting, regardless of which character you use?
Touche.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.11.02 11:39:00 -
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what a crappy thread this is.
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Roc Wieler
Polytope
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Posted - 2007.11.02 12:02:00 -
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Anonymity of the Internet. The lack of any real consequence emboldens even the weakest of us. *** Lt.Colonel Roc Wieler
"Never start a fight you can win." - Roc Wieler |
Susan Acid
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.02 12:06:00 -
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CCP care about the quantity not quality of players.More players = more % of r tards.
Ubar? Ja!
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OuZiE
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2007.11.02 12:22:00 -
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.11.02 12:27:00 -
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Sadly it''s in our nature to try to burn others so we feel better ourselves, were not as evolved as we think we are, i mean it hasn't been that long since we ran around in bearskins clubbing our enemies to death and drinking from their skull, hell, it was just last weekend for me... err... nm that last comment. CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.02 13:02:00 -
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I present to you, the Greater Internet ******* Theory (questionably SFW) courtesy of Penny Arcade! --
Support fixing the EVE UI
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2007.11.02 13:04:00 -
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Don't forget Rells that you are dealing with children here.
With adults it's perfectly correct to say that they are responsible for their own actions, however the majority of EVE's players and certainly the majority of it's regular forum posters are not adults.
What happens in a classroom when the teacher leaves the room? Chaos. Anarchy. The scumbags take over.
CCP have seen fit to abandon these forums for now, and as such they have descended into a Lord Of The Flies situation where the thugs and sub-human aspects of children bubble to the surface. Attempting to appeal to the better nature of these kids is futile, since until their balls drop and they learn to shave most of them HAVE no better nature.
All children need guidelines, they need discipline. And I don't mean a rod of iron, I just mean some consistently enforced boundaries. Without that they do what all kids do - they test the boundaries. Think of the goons as a bunch of 7 year olds seeing how far they can go before daddy loses his temper. Except that daddy doesn't care, he's run off to get drunk with the ****ty secretary from work, and mummy left to go work in China years ago.
Until CCP realise that the state of their forums reflects extremely badly on their cashcow then I'd suggest that anyone with a mental age higher than their shoe size either avoids the forums or self-regulates with CAOD Cleaner. Threads like this are a goldmine in that respect, you can just go through the replies and permanently ignore the idiots.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.11.02 13:24:00 -
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I love how these threads bring out the armchair psychologists.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.11.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt I love how these threads bring out the armchair psychologists.
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Torco
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Posted - 2007.11.02 14:29:00 -
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since there is this one big ally starting with G ending with Fleet this forum is full of jerks... sad but true...
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.02 14:59:00 -
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the truth is, the forums are wild because I have yet to release my vast army of clones to tame it
think of it, the glorious future, where there is one of me in every thread, driving the stupid people, whiners, and flamers, insane! it will be heaven!
I'm currently involved in medical research, concerning the therapuetic aspects of a swift kick in the rear
What do zombies and forum posters have in common? They like to sit about and moan! |
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