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Husari Painen
Independant News Agency
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:57:00 -
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1. D2 moved huge fleet direction fountain, over 15 carriers confirmed.
2. RAZOR and MM have an unconfirmed target in south.
3. "Seleenee did an official logoffski" according to MM forces. According to my MM source trap was set for MC leader in H-W in Tribute as her safespot was busted. Seleenee warped in panic to MSHD gate in H-W and fleet followed. Before taking any damage Seleenee logged of (or crashed, ctrl-q-ed) and dissapeared at the same spot 200km from MSHD gate. To remind EVE public if ship logs off without taking damage then it will dissapear after one minute (not warp, just dissapear). That exactly happened, Seleenee dissapeared. Other ms pilot, Alynthir, managed to warp and cloak. 2 minutes later Alynthir posted following message in local: "Seleenee apologises for having problems with his PC, that would have been a good battle, maybe some other time, he will not be back today".
Strangely enough Selenee and Alynthir logged back in, few hours later, after MM forces were busy in Taisy area and jumped straight to empire low space.
My MM source said: "All that respect on forums, and bull**** and now this! In my eyes this is first EVE ms kill and it belongs to MM! MC deserves absolutely no respect whatsoever! And now when BOB is busy petting LV MC is doomed against us alone."
BOB will be under pressure. Is the time ripe for their fall?
Also is the story about Seleenee true? My source claims it is, how about someone else from MM posting here? Or MC leadership? Explain what happened, EVE public will be gratefull. I have seen a copy of chatlog in H-W local confirming what I wrote, angry raections by MM pilots and message from Alynthir about the PC crash. Logs can be faked, and this is why we need an official statement from involved parties. We deliver the news, you live with them |
Jargoon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:58:00 -
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I, for one, am totally surprised by this shocking development
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Saal Iverson
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:59:00 -
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not you again
isnt it someone elses turn to play guessing games :/
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.09 22:59:00 -
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anyone else got a Cyvok flashback, when he said his comp crashed? ___________________________________
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Father Weebles
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:01:00 -
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it's highly likely that Seleene ctd'd and decided to not log back in because the situation was hopeless
btw there's some ppl that said d2 moved in 25 freightors into Fountain....hmm
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Father Weebles it's highly likely that Seleene ctd'd and decided to not log back in because the situation was hopeless
btw there's some ppl that said d2 moved in 25 freightors into Fountain....hmm
Thats what I think happened to, I really dont think seleene would ctrl+q abandoning the other MS.
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ZaKma
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:08:00 -
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I heard him saying that he's warping to the gate on TS, and after that he crashed from TS, EVE and MSN at the same time.
He had no reason to pull a logoffski, and if MM think there was one.. well no comment on that.
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Eurydyke
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:09:00 -
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari
Originally by: Father Weebles it's highly likely that Seleene ctd'd and decided to not log back in because the situation was hopeless
btw there's some ppl that said d2 moved in 25 freightors into Fountain....hmm
Thats what I think happened to, I really dont think seleene would ctrl+q abandoning the other MS.
Thank you for that, I know Sel would rather see that ship go down killing than to pull some cheap logoffski some people in this game still have honour.
Oh and you news is pretty poor I think most people could have told you about the D2 thing.
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Prydeless
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:12:00 -
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I hope BOB gets what they deserve, unrelentless persecution.
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Nadar
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:26:00 -
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I wasn't there, but I really don't believe in anyone saying he logged off on purpose as Selenee never struck me as that kind of person.
CTD's can happen to anyone in combat-mode once in a while, so unless it's something done regularly I don't see why anyone are shouting "logoffski". ---
What I write are my own opinions and it does not reflect my corp or alliance opinions, so kindly bugger off.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:30:00 -
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Here is the deal:
I've had my computer crashing on me at random for a couple weeks now. It's happened a couple times before in smaller engagements and I was able to reboot and log back in quickly. This happened last week when I jumped into a Razor gang and crashed instantly. It turns out that my new 7950GT card is the source of this problem. I've put my old 7900GT back in and things SEEM to be going okay now.
As for what happened earlier tonight, I had Sel logged in inside H-W. There were about 85 hostiles in local. Alynthir logged on as well. We were preparing to cyno out of the system when he says that there was an Arazu and another ship at his safe. No problem, he starts to warp to the MSH gate because our covert pilot (Mynas 4TW!) is sitting 5km away from a Rokh that needs to die. I figure, what the hell, de-cloak and start to warp in as well. Maybe we'll get a fight!
Just as my ship enters warp, my computer locks up AGAIN and I spent 10 mins trying to reboot to a stable desktop. Giving up, I run downstairs, grab my laptop and hop on TS. I'm told that it would probably not be best to log back in at that moment considering there are about 100 people sitting at the spot I vanished from.
The situation wasn't 'hopeless', but there was no way I was going to try to fight something like that on my laptop. So I spent the next hour pulling / switching RAM chips and rebooting over and over to try to get a stable desktop. Finally, I pulled my new graphics card and put in an old one. Magically, everything worked again. So there's $300 I'll be RMA'ing back from newegg.com.
So, I logged back in, got ganged and cyno'd out like we'd planned to do anyway. I was greeted by this when I came out of warp from logging back in:
Lookie! They dropped cans so I can't cloak or warp!
Interestingly enough, from the angle I warped in from, I could have easily turned to warp out. Regardless, had the battle actually taken place it would have been a good one. I'm sure it was a well planned trap, but I didn't even know there was a trap (if that's what it was) until I came on TS ten minutes after I'd crashed.
Now, I love the witch hunt mentality that seems to have infested the forums lately, but we've put our Motherships in more jeopardy in the last two weeks than was faced this evening. We've had 80+ ships shooting at us before, jumped into large bubble camps, had dreads cyno'd in on us and generally had a ******* blast with the whole, "Let's see what these things can do!" mentality.
I seriously doubt anyone who has seen me fly that Nyx up close believes for one second that I'd log it off from a fight. If you do, good for you.
Have a cookie!
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:32:00 -
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I give Seleene the benedict of the doubt. We all suffer disconnect's time to time. Seeing her record I see no reason to not believe her on her word.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:32:00 -
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Not crazy about this "MM source" crap. Whoever it is should keep their bloody nonsense to themselves.
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Bannion
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Father Weebles it's highly likely that Seleene ctd'd and decided to not log back in because the situation was hopeless
btw there's some ppl that said d2 moved in 25 freightors into Fountain....hmm
Yes all full of gifts for Darth so they can "stay" on his land
Quote: Kinsy - "BoB change positions more often than Rocco Sifredi."
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:47:00 -
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Members of NPC corporations may not post in this forum - Tirg
Rhaegar Targarin - Minmatar Combat Pilot |
Imicusin
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:47:00 -
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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Ivan K ([email protected])
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:47:00 -
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Members of NPC corporations may not post in this forum - Tirg
Rhaegar Targarin - Minmatar Combat Pilot |
Imicusin
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Imicusin on 10/02/2007 00:05:25 Edited by: Imicusin on 10/02/2007 00:04:31
Thats a real nice story seelene, I suppose your cyno buddy is the one that left about 15 [MC] heavy drones at the site of the "trap"? I personally popped one of them, and thats the truth.
(did I get the "those were [MC] heavy drones at the trap site" in?)
Good.
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V0rador
Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: V0rador on 09/02/2007 23:52:09 lol at PC crash
.... its ok you are excuse but only for one time hey
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V0rador
Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.09 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: V0rador on 09/02/2007 23:52:09 lol at PC crash
.... its ok you are excuse but only for one time hey
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Husari Painen
Independant News Agency
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Husari Painen on 09/02/2007 23:56:41 Thank you Seleenee for your side of the story. I do have few questions though.
1. How do you feel that you have avoided certain death by just few seconds? If you would have been agroed by anything you would have taken 15 minutes to dissapear. Yet you CTD few seconds before 100 ships warps on your spot. 2. According to MM sources Alynthir, second ms pilot, was already agroed so CTD-ing was not an option for him. Did you know that you are not agroed when you CTD-ed? 3. If you were agroed would you have logged back in the game? 4. Would you call it luck? Touch of fate? 5. Are you gratefull to your graphics card for being alive? Allow me to tell you that MM forces had 20+ capital ships about to cyno on your at 0 km when you left the game.
Thank you in advance.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Husari Painen Edited by: Husari Painen on 09/02/2007 23:56:41 Thank you Seleenee for your side of the story. I do have few questions though.
1. How do you feel that you have avoided certain death by just few seconds? If you would have been agroed by anything you would have taken 15 minutes to dissapear. Yet you CTD few seconds before 100 ships warps on your spot. 2. According to MM sources Alynthir, second ms pilot, was already agroed so CTD-ing was not an option for him. Did you know that you are not agroed when you CTD-ed? 3. If you were agroed would you have logged back in the game? 4. Would you call it luck? Touch of fate? 5. Are you gratefull to your graphics card for being alive? Allow me to tell you that MM forces had 20+ capital ships about to cyno on your at 0 km when you left the game.
Thank you in advance.
You don't sound very Independent -----
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Cotton Tail
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Husari Painen Edited by: Husari Painen on 09/02/2007 23:56:41 Thank you Seleenee for your side of the story. I do have few questions though.
1. How do you feel that you have avoided certain death by just few seconds? If you would have been agroed by anything you would have taken 15 minutes to dissapear. Yet you CTD few seconds before 100 ships warps on your spot. 2. According to MM sources Alynthir, second ms pilot, was already agroed so CTD-ing was not an option for him. Did you know that you are not agroed when you CTD-ed? 3. If you were agroed would you have logged back in the game? 4. Would you call it luck? Touch of fate? 5. Are you gratefull to your graphics card for being alive? Allow me to tell you that MM forces had 20+ capital ships about to cyno on your at 0 km when you left the game.
Thank you in advance.
Please shut it, there has been enough **** throwing today on the forum and a lot of people are a little riled up. In my time in EVE sel and MC in its various forms have war decced corporations I've been in and since the days when Sel just ****ed around in a crow ganking haulers hes always been a top bloke. Fact is despite the basic level of immunity motherships enjoy, Sel puts his nyx in the thick of it and while sometimes its a totally one sided gank in his favour he still flies into situations which involve more fun than smart thinking. Everyone has had the annoying disconnects and crashes that really screw you up, and logging into a gang camping you is never a smart idea. Are MM members annoyed that we didn't get the chance to pew pew the nyx? Yes. Could we have taken it? Possibly. However I doubt any one in MM wants a ****ty MS kill like how BoB got the first Titan kill. If we kill Sel I'm sure he will go down in a blaze of glory and providing a challenging fight.
Please don't try to represent MM without the tag under your name, if you are in MM and are hiding behind an alt, please feel free to message me ingame and I'd be happy to debate the whole thing with you. If you don't please shut up.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Husari Painen Useless questions
M8, you don't get it do you? I wasn't even able to log back in for over ten minutes. If I'd been aggro'd, I'd probably been pretty ****** TBH.
Twenty capital ships, eh? All for me? Impressive. It still wouldn't have stopped us from warping off.
"Certian death?" After the last few weeks of flying this thing, I can promise you that nothing is certian, especially when there are two moms working together and a third or fourth on standby to jump in as well.
Do you honestly believe we deploy these monsters casually?
BTW, Cotton Tail 4TW. Thanks for 'getting it', m8. -
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Srbin Dominator
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Srbin Dominator on 10/02/2007 00:14:22 We don't believe that 'Seleene' use log-off tackticks. We had (and still having) nice fights with MC, without smack and with respect.
Continue this like it is now, so we still can have the fun.
About the source mentioned: Morsus Mihi doesn't know nothing about this story, we post with our mains ! Please don't spread info, in the name of Morsus Mihi while it is not the case.
Srbin Dominator Diplomat/High-Command Morsus Mihi
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Cotton Tail
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Husari Painen Useless questions
M8, you don't get it do you? I wasn't even able to log back in for over ten minutes. If I'd been aggro'd, I'd probably been pretty ****** TBH.
Twenty capital ships, eh? All for me? Impressive. It still wouldn't have stopped us from warping off.
"Certian death?" After the last few weeks of flying this thing, I can promise you that nothing is certian, especially when there are two moms working together and a third or fourth on standby to jump in as well.
Do you honestly believe we deploy these monsters casually?
BTW, Cotton Tail 4TW. Thanks for 'getting it', m8.
Think nothing of it mate, if I thought you had done a loggoffski I'd probably be whining too
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Draximus Cane
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:20:00 -
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In no relation to the disconnect, as I wasn't there.
These "news" characters are just a pathetic plot to beat the no alt rule.
As it goes, I have found MM to be realy decent sorts, I believe the OP is an alt from a 'sharper' alliance.
Drax. -------------------------------------------------
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Husari Painen
Thank you Seleenee for your side of the story. I do have few questions though.
1. How do you feel that you have avoided certain death by just few seconds? If you would have been agroed by anything you would have taken 15 minutes to dissapear. Yet you CTD few seconds before 100 ships warps on your spot. 2. According to MM sources Alynthir, second ms pilot, was already agroed so CTD-ing was not an option for him. Did you know that you are not agroed when you CTD-ed? 3. If you were agroed would you have logged back in the game? 4. Would you call it luck? Touch of fate? 5. Are you gratefull to your graphics card for being alive? Allow me to tell you that MM forces had 20+ capital ships about to cyno on your at 0 km when you left the game.
Thank you in advance.
I have questions too!
Two motherships warped to within a few kilometres of a stationary long range battleship. Does that sound like a typical panicked escape?
If being agro'd was T+TALHELLDEATH why was the first mothership able to warp out of your trap AFTER your hundred ships had warped to him, and after the second mothership had come in on a deadstick (it was blue to us and its pilot had dropped off TS)?
Was the first mothership's escape luck, or are you implying that the Aeon pilot used his certain-dev-haxxor skills too?
Did the first mothership leave the battle before or after the cyno was launched?
Did the first mothership leave half a billion isk in fighters at the scene, or a bunch of T1 drones?
Did MM/-RZR-/SRBI anchor 18 secure cans at the second mothership's despawn point?
Myn
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.10 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Srbin Dominator Edited by: Srbin Dominator on 10/02/2007 00:14:22 We don't believe that 'Seleene' use log-off tackticks. We had (and still having) nice fights with MC, without smack and with respect.
Continue this like it is now, so we still can have the fun.
About the source mentioned: Morsus Mihi doesn't know nothing about this story, we post with our mains ! Please don't spread info, in the name of Morsus Mihi while it is not the case.
Srbin Dominator Diplomat/High-Command Morsus Mihi
Yes it has been a pleasure to you fight you guys no smack and good fights not what we always get so thank you.
Also to the OP if the other mothership was able to get away if Sel had not crashed why wouldn't he have been able to do the same?
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