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Aaron Rex
Caldari The Fated
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:19:00 -
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We apparantly have three titans ingame now, all of them the Amarrian Avatar ones. Now, I have a sneeky suspision that alliances don't go and invest multi tens of billions of ISK on a ship without having a very good reason for picking that particular ship over another.
So, I was wondering, what is it that makes the Avatar the best titan (or at least the titan of choice)? Does it have better stats than the others? Better bonuses? Does it simply look better? Or are Amarr simply wtf pwningly ubr?
Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated |
Ravelin Eb
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:20:00 -
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em doomsday
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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:25:00 -
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Cap recharge. 37.5%, IIRC.
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Kye Kenshin
Black Takeda
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:27:00 -
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Maybe its because alot of the titan pilots trained up Amarr when they were uber and then the amarr dreads for the no ammo and tanking abilities. So skillwise the avatar was the best choice.
Could be the reason.
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Dixon
Caldari Hells Donkeys
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:29:00 -
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It's golden... - - - - - -
Originally by: Ath Amon as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
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Aaron Rex
Caldari The Fated
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:32:00 -
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I had thought about the skill side, but dismissed it as the way I see it, considering the cost of the ship, you'd train up for the best one, not chose a crap one just cos you could knock a month or whatever off the training time for it. But I might be wrong.
As for the EM doomsday, I would have thought that bad. Isn't EM the most tanked damage? But the cap recharge bonus I can understand.
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:34:00 -
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I must say I like the Minmatar bonus as well. ( -7.5% sigres/ lvl)
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.09 21:59:00 -
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EM damage is only a problem in the context of lasers. When applied to things like Missles, Projectiles (both which can pick EM damage in specific situations), or Judgement (Cos it does so much damage) EM is just as effective as other damage types. -----
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Polydectes
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.09 22:30:00 -
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The avatar cap bonus allows all ships in gang to remove a cap power relay and fit another damage mod or other mod. -------------------------------------------------
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Teh Bunny
Caldari Minor Mining Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.09 22:31:00 -
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Rumor has it that D2 is building a Gallente titan.
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Wiggy69
5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.09 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Wiggy69 on 09/12/2006 22:32:04 Personally, I'd pick the Avatar over the others due to it's ability to fit, and permanently run, 3 capital armor repairers. Any sane pilot will have a Slave set + 8% armor implant and maxed tanking skills, making a mean tank (maybe around 800.000HP? Wouldn't want to work it out ) for anyone to come up against. Oh, and the 37.5% capacitor recharge rate bonus to everyone in your fleet. -----
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Amarr knight
LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.09 22:34:00 -
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Could just be that the pilots who decided to train for titan were Amarr specialised and when the time came Amarr titan seemed like the right choice. Another race of titan would have taken longer to train, as they already take too long even with high attributes and +5 implants.
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Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.12.09 23:07:00 -
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It's because of skills.
Personally, I think a fleet with the Erebus/Leviathan is going to be sick, especially considering that DD weapons are being fired off left and right.
The minmatar titan will give a BS the sig radius of a cruiser. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
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Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.09 23:20:00 -
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if i saw correct there has been one Erebus BPO sold :) so might see that one some time :)
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.12.10 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Riho if i saw correct there has been one Erebus BPO sold :) so might see that one some time :)
I demand someone buy the Ragnarok bpo and build it....
Coincidentally i honestly wished there was a 1v1 w all titans just to see how it would fare. Technically their just logistical powerhouses but it would be very interesting to see a pvp vid of just titans going at it.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:12:00 -
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in the begining apocalypses with their 8 turrets where the best miners in game, so everyone trained for them and becuz every lvl added 5% cap ppl trained it to lvl 5 bs so they could mine and run 2 large reps.
basicly one thing lead to another and now they fly titans
i still think gallente titan would own them
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Gor Kraon
Minmatar Shadowclan
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:27:00 -
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Judgment can be tanked by a Wolf... (but i suppose the right Tech 2 ship can tank each of the Titans.)
The cap recharge is nice though.
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Imechal Ravpeim
Amarr International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Riho if i saw correct there has been one Erebus BPO sold :) so might see that one some time :)
I demand someone buy the Ragnarok bpo and build it....
Coincidentally i honestly wished there was a 1v1 w all titans just to see how it would fare. Technically their just logistical powerhouses but it would be very interesting to see a pvp vid of just titans going at it.
I saw a vid of that... A bunch of titans in the test server just killing eachother. No Ragnaroks though... just the other three.
Then they all got pwned by Concord.
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:40:00 -
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Whats not to love about a gold-plated buttplug?
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Galactic Magi
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Posted - 2006.12.10 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Riho if i saw correct there has been one Erebus BPO sold :) so might see that one some time :)
I demand someone buy the Ragnarok bpo and build it....
Coincidentally i honestly wished there was a 1v1 w all titans just to see how it would fare. Technically their just logistical powerhouses but it would be very interesting to see a pvp vid of just titans going at it.
I saw a vid of that... A bunch of titans in the test server just killing eachother. No Ragnaroks though... just the other three.
Then they all got pwned by Concord.
Titan 1 vs 1 wont really be fun considering they dont have the dmg to break each others tank. And i think a dread in siege mode easily out damage them.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:01:00 -
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My theory is that all these pilots are leftovers from the era of the gankaddon with 7x beam lasers and 8x heat sinks without stacking penalty. ------------- Cadet Lithalnas - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.10 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 10/12/2006 05:22:29 Shrike is an Amarr pilot (im sure he must have some other skills) and the ship was built for him to fly.
The same is probably true of enslaver and Cyvok.
I think the Ragnarock and Erebus provide better bonuses for fleet combat. I would go with the Ragnarock personally since I think explosive if the best damage (most ships armor tank) and it has a sick gang bonus.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Derrios
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:00:00 -
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agree with the two posts above me :) ----------------------------------------------- <3 conspiracy theories. Originally by: Omeega We (aAa) could do this - did this? */me hands the DBP paycheck with the small note - Please bbq AXE*
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas Cap recharge. 37.5%, IIRC.
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That's my guess.
Picking it for the damage type doesn't sound right though. Considering most ships armor tank in fleets, and Minmatar assault ships have stupid-insane EM resists, you'd probably want explosive or kinetic instead.
However the avatar can have a simply insane tank now. Several million HP, hardened, and probably a cap armor rep as well? You aren't getting that sort of god-mode on a shield tanked Titan.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:39:00 -
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for those who don't follow thsoap oper *cough* cor and alliance channel, who was the titans?
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Siakel
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: Siakel on 10/12/2006 06:41:53
Originally by: Audri Fisher for those who don't follow thsoap oper *cough* cor and alliance channel, who was the titans?
Ah, as far as I know BoB has one(Avatar?) ASCN has an Avatar, and now Lotka Volterra has an Avatar, too.
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:52:00 -
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It is all because of the ships bonus..Skills are no problem for a huge alliance..and the avatar has the only universal (good, sig radius is meh) bonus (cap regen bonus).
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan It is all because of the ships bonus..Skills are no problem for a huge alliance..and the avatar has the only universal (good, sig radius is meh) bonus (cap regen bonus).
Cap bonus is quite useless in most circumstances.
As pointed out elsewhere the only place it is uber is for dreads and then it is REALLY uber.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:21:00 -
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People underestimate cap recharge, and those people either don't use cap or have not been in many fleet battles. Cap bonus alows your fleet to drop cap recharging mods, which allow for more damage, sensor, EW and utility mods. And those amarr laser boats can fire just that much longer. . .
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.10 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trinity Faetal in the begining apocalypses with their 8 turrets where the best miners in game, so everyone trained for them and becuz every lvl added 5% cap ppl trained it to lvl 5 bs so they could mine and run 2 large reps.
basicly one thing lead to another and now they fly titans
i still think gallente titan would own them
In the beginning Apocs had Damage Bonus.
~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator
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