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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.03 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 03/11/2006 19:23:03
Worm: A bit more CPU. +1 turret and +1 missile hard-points. A bit more grid?
Gila: A bit more grid. +1 turret and +1 missile hard-points. A bit more CPU?
Ta.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:19:00 -
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Tuxy, please look at Gurista ships. Their T1 counterparts Merlin and Moa are better than Worm and Gila. T1 got buffed and balanced but Gurista and other factions got forgotten.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:36:00 -
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yes, the rattlesnake is underpowered, its tank sucks
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Outa Rileau
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol yes, the rattlesnake is underpowered, its tank sucks
Not quite, although as with all other ships... If you'd spend the same amount of money on their t1 counterpart you will end up with about the same performance on both ships.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:11:00 -
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Gotta remember, Faction ≠ T2.
Rattlesnake isn't meant to be Uber-Tank above the plain T1 BS.
RS could probably do with a little loving though. -----------------------------------------------
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Darksaber64x
Ecchi co.
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Posted - 2006.11.04 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol yes, the rattlesnake is underpowered, its tank sucks
I'm not sure she mentioned the rattlesnake... unless she edited it out before I read it, in which case never mind.
But yeah, OTHER than the RS, the gurista ships do kinda stink compared to their rarity.
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 03:22:00 -
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CAn we have the grid/CPU for the Ashimmu boosted to the level of the Maller like it should have been back when the Mark II project boosted the Maller's stats? ---
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.11.04 05:29:00 -
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it was sarcasm
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.04 09:02:00 -
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Worm and Gila needs a bit of love, you do not agree? --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:36:00 -
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No reply, Sir Tuxy? --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:02:00 -
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Sansha ships. Only know Succubus and Phantasm. Can't get hold of a Nightmare yet.
Succubus. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
Phantasm. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.11.05 05:12:00 -
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Worms are fairly badass with rockets atm I'd say, but yeah, in general I think Faction ships might need some loving.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.05 16:15:00 -
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DUFFMANX
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.11.05 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2006 03:04:05
Worm: A bit more CPU. +1 turret and +1 missile hard-points.
Gila: missile hard-points only. A bit more CPU?
Phantasm. A bit more CPU.
Ta.
Wot i negated from ur op above is more than suitable for those ships. The succubus is fine
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Private Iron
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.05 17:28:00 -
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Fix the dramiel aswell please. It has bonuses to small projectiles yet it only has 2 turret hardpoints with 3 missile hardpoints -----
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.05 17:35:00 -
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They can start fixing the succubus by giving it the right model - the one of the sansha frigate that has 2 turrets =P ----------------
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.06 12:56:00 -
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Sir Tuxy, please reply. A smiley would be nice. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.06 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 05/11/2006 03:04:05
Worm: A bit more CPU. +1 turret and +1 missile hard-points. A bit more grid?
Gila: A bit more grid. +1 turret and +1 missile hard-points. A bit more CPU?
Succubus. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
Phantasm. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
Ta.
Signed. These ships have had their stats stay static while multiple modules they use have changed and most other ships have been changed to compensate (and boosted, in general).
Fitting a Gila or Phantasm is just silly, especially on the CPU side. Yes, they are toys for rich people and no, they should not be "uber" in any case -- but with the current stats they are just gimped.
Not a huge deal, but yes, would be nice (and has no huge balance implications, since these ships are, honestly, expensive toys and not common stuff). Just give them a small % boost to both CPU and grid and be done with it.
By all accounts, the Nightmare needs the same kind of boost too, I hear it's also a literal "nightmare" to fit.
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sansha ships. Only know Succubus and Phantasm. Can't get hold of a Nightmare yet.
Succubus. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
Phantasm. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
/signed, but you should add the Nightmare and Ashimmu to that list. The sansha/blood raider ships have great potential and looks but their fittings are just awful.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.06 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dixon /signed, but you should add the Nightmare and Ashimmu to that list. The sansha/blood raider ships have great potential and looks but their fittings are just awful.
Let me get Nightmare and Ashimmu then I will add to the list. :) --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.11.06 16:29:00 -
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The nightmare desperately needs more cpu. Ask anyone who flies one.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.06 17:25:00 -
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Added Nightmare and Ashimmu. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.06 17:45:00 -
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Sorry Jenny but sansha ships simply suck cause of their horrible split weapon systems..
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Plasmatique
Caldari Black Lance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Sorry Jenny but sansha ships simply suck cause of their horrible split weapon systems..
yep
Originally by: Kyozoku The nightmare desperately needs more cpu. Ask anyone who flies one.
yep
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming Sorry Jenny but sansha ships simply suck cause of their horrible split weapon systems..
True. But they look cool, and with some (even small) cpu increase you might even be able to fit something except faction stuff on them. Currently they suck for so many reasons it's almost funny.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:28:00 -
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Split weapons are sexy. They both have ROF or damage bonus. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Baji Core
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Posted - 2006.11.06 19:30:00 -
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I'd certainly like to see a bit more CPU on the Worm. Other than that it seems ok. In general though I'd like to see more variation on faction frigs - they all sort of seem the same to me :/ I just bought a worm because it looked good for missioning.
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Blood Redd
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:58:00 -
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Phantasm is fine at the moment in my oppinion. Just remember that dual small reps rep the same as 1 med rep for a fraction of the cpu/pg.
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ookke
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Posted - 2006.11.07 14:30:00 -
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My experiences from some of the above ships
Worm
- needs more cpu, ends up with 1 slot empty and very little cpu left usually
Gila
- think grid is fine considering the spare lows where you can use pds - cpu is awful again.. not so bad with 4 lows tho.. can fit a co-pro II - the 2 turret slots with dmg bonus feels a bit pointless, maybe give the launchers a second dmg bonus instead(or the moa resist bonus? droool)
Succubus - fits quite nicely with some creative thinking, defo easier then worm
Phantasm
- needs some thinking again, but i could fit 3 faction focused med pulse, 3 faction hvy launchers, mwd web scram and a quite decent tank in lows without using complete overkill mods. Ended up with spare PG and CPU so atleast launchers OR guns should be able to fit t2
Nightmare
- a nightmare to fit.. i managed to get a working fit with loads of low-end, low-cpu officer stuff and some compromises. Defo could do with a cpu boost. Maybe a laser cap use bonus or a bit more cap too, feels a bit.. non-amarr, cant run 4 mega pulse and dual reps for any decent amount of time plus it doesn't fit.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.07 15:46:00 -
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/me taps foot.
Tuxy, I am waiting. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
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