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Kaynard Stormwalker
Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.07 17:44:00 -
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Indeed faction ships need a medium boost. An ashimmu is impossible to fit nicely without grid mods..and even so you have to gimp it a bit.
Faction ships should be a bit stronger, no ?-_- They do look cool, but its about time to make them useful already.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.11.07 18:57:00 -
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*signed*
Most of the faction ships really just aren't that useful compared to their t1 class equivalents, mainly due to fitting problems.
Especially the Ashimmu. Any ship with both that many high slots and bonii to grid-hungry nos needs more grid.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:09:00 -
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Tuxy, please say something? --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Ileri Vahraq
Mercury Exploration
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:27:00 -
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Please fix the Cynabal as well while you're at it. I see the ship as a faster Rupture, but the much lower powergrid and, strangely, even lower cap recharge makes it hard to fit and use.
The extra lowslot now goes towards a grid mod to close the gap, not into providing any advantage.
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vaca loca
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:49:00 -
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power grid boost for cynabal please
---- sorry jenny for interrupting
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brakespear
Minmatar oc3M
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Posted - 2006.11.08 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Private Iron Fix the dramiel aswell please. It has bonuses to small projectiles yet it only has 2 turret hardpoints with 3 missile hardpoints
/signed
was seriously considering buying a Dramiel until I noticed the hislot layout
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.08 19:31:00 -
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Pvp fittings are most of an issue, cant say the same for pve fittings.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.08 22:29:00 -
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Added Cynabal. --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
VortiK
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.08 22:43:00 -
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Correct Machariel right upper engine's trail missplacement while your at it, pwetty please
no sig anymore :(
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Rania Serlia
TetraMorph Nexus Inc. The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.11.08 22:54:00 -
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Republic fleet firetail needs more base speed.
Err...
Seriously a damage/rof bonus instead of tracking would be nice. Though the tracking bonus does allow you to fit arty and 200mm AC and actually hit things, I'd still prefer damage. Currently it flies like a slightly better rifter with all time new low dps.
There's a reason customs patrollers fit it with hybrids...
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:06:00 -
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Nightmare -Increase CPU -Increase Cap -No need for more grid, it has plenty
Navy Apocalypse -Increase PG
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.09 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Toaster Oven Nightmare -Increase CPU -Increase Cap -No need for more grid, it has plenty
Navy Apocalypse -Increase PG
How about making all the Navy ships have like 5-10% more PW and CPU. Right now the Navy Apocalypse has more CPU then PW problems.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.09 13:41:00 -
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Any more ship that needs fixing? --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
LukaG
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: LukaG on 10/11/2006 09:46:33 Poor Jenny, I don't think Tux likes you or your post
(or maybe he only reads the forum on a bi-annual basis )
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.10 21:41:00 -
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Indian movies, anyone? --------- Faction Warfare Begins Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente Lagos-Vaughn Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.11 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Sansha ships. Only know Succubus and Phantasm. Can't get hold of a Nightmare yet.
Succubus. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
Phantasm. A bit more CPU. A bit more grid.
CPU on Mare's are VERY tight. I'm talkign similar kinda tight as to what Gary Glitter is used to.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.12 00:09:00 -
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Final bump. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.11.12 00:32:00 -
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don't give up Jenny, Tuxy needs to reply
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Cupertino
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Posted - 2006.11.12 19:41:00 -
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I totally agree with the need for a little PG / CPU boost on the Succubus and Phantasm.
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Lyta Reimalken
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.12 21:12:00 -
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Some form of reply would be wonderful :( Ive had a Dramiel in the past, and sold it because of the slot layout, should be 3 turret and 2 missile or different bonuses, as has been stated. Bump i guess :/
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Carnye Dubro
Caldari Shock and Awe
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Posted - 2006.11.12 21:56:00 -
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I think Tux is still strapped into that barber chair at fan fest they were doing the tequila and fermented goat's milk shooters from last night...
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:39:00 -
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Mach should have a 7th turret.
Bhaalgorn needs a little more CPU.
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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Toaster Oven Nightmare -Increase CPU -Increase Cap -No need for more grid, it has plenty
Navy Apocalypse -Increase PG
How about making all the Navy ships have like 5-10% more PW and CPU. Right now the Navy Apocalypse has more CPU then PW problems.
these 2 are right, nightmare is dieing to get abit more cpu and quite abit cap. navy poc needs grid and cpu.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
Minmatar Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.12 22:59:00 -
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Dramiel is indeed pretty borked, it was originally based off the rifter, which was then majorly boosted in the MK II ships project .. then for some reason the dramiel got nerfed a bit more than it already was .. I dont quite understand it. Might be someone confused it with the daredevil I guess (ie they changed the stats as though it was based off of the tristan) . ----- It's great being Minmatar, ain't it? Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.11.13 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kyozoku on 13/11/2006 16:37:37 Increase cpu of all sansha ships by 20%.
Nightmare
add +2 turret and +2 launcher hard points.
Phantasm
add + 1 turret and +1 launcher hard point.
Succubus
+ 1 launcher and +1 turret hard point.
Apart from the cpu issue sansha ships are very solid stats wise. Their problem is that they have damage orientated bonuses but are stuck with a split weapon layouts.
Increasing the number of hard points so that one weapon type can take up around 75% of the slots instead of 50% would allow you to fully take advantage of the ship's bonuses, fit damage mods without being penalized and make the split bonuses add versatility to the ship instead of serving only to counter a crappy layout.
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Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente Lagos-Vaughn Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kyozoku Edited by: Kyozoku on 13/11/2006 16:37:37 Increase cpu of all sansha ships by 20%.
Nightmare
add +2 turret and +2 launcher hard points.
Phantasm
add + 1 turret and +1 launcher hard point.
Succubus
+ 1 launcher and +1 turret hard point.
Apart from the cpu issue sansha ships are very solid stats wise. Their problem is that they have damage orientated bonuses but are stuck with a split weapon layouts.
Increasing the number of hard points so that one weapon type can take up around 75% of the slots instead of 50% would allow you to fully take advantage of the ship's bonuses, fit damage mods without being penalized and make the split bonuses add versatility to the ship instead of serving only to counter a crappy layout.
agree quite abit, maybe +2 to turrets and missiles is extreme, maybe +1 to each to give it abit more versatility but with 6 its just a lower dps armor tank raven. it does struggle horribly with CPU tho, for missions i've not run into too many capacitor problems except on Vengence with sansha on first stage i do have to warp out on the last 1 or 2 BS's but that can be sorted with a cap booster really (i just liek a burner cos of travel lol)
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.14 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Phelan Lore on 14/11/2006 02:12:10 Give the daredevil more turret HPs and projectile bonuses.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.20 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 20/11/2006 18:34:41
Shameless bump. Added some cpu and grid suggestions. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! |
Lyta Reimalken
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.20 19:45:00 -
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Fact is, this thread deserves a "were looking into it" or at least a "we dont care" on the part of the devs. Its not exactly an unheard of issue that couldve escaped their notice, and its no one group thats calling for things to be fixed. Hopefully people will take some notice so I can get back to trying to find another dramiel BP, hopefully by the time i do it wont be so furiously ineffective :D
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Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.21 03:17:00 -
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If the Daredevil had projectile bonuses, it would be a Dramiel. It's the only priate frig to get Hybrid bonuses, leave them alone please.
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