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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:34:00 -
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with love and a little lube
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:34:00 -
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A tachyon laser uses 3750 powergrid. An armageddon has a default powergrid of 18000ish, right? With engineering V, you get +25% grid, ending up at 22500 grid. With Advanced weapon upgrades V, you get -10% grid useage for the tachyons, ending up at 3375 grid usage per tachyon. 3375 times 7 equals 23625 powergrid, meaning 1125 more than you can possibly achieve. At least, as far as i know.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
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Yamaeda
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:35:00 -
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You install enough Reactor Core Units in low slots. :)
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:35:00 -
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if that fails, you always have dual RCU T2 , but id suggest the lube method first
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:37:00 -
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2 RCU IIs for the Tachyons. Then a CPU II for the other mods.
It's great being Amarr, aint it? It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow 2 RCU IIs for the Tachyons. Then a CPU II for the other mods.
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
it is indeed great, the 20%+ DPS compaired to other snipers is well FTW. just make sure you get first shot where the shields have 0% EM
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:44:00 -
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Yea, its great, right up the point where the other side has equal skills and his optimal is higher then your optimal + falloff. And you stop hitting jack didly.
Great being Amarr. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:48:00 -
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With other words, i have to gimp my Heat sinks and tank to get tachy's on? -.-;;. Great. Not to mention, needing to max out the grid skills... just awesome.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:49:00 -
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Ehh, yea.
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
I think ill add that to my sig. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Ramming torpedo
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:58:00 -
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Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:02:00 -
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So ... Kojiami is Ramming Torpedo's alt ? Nice ... so i was right all along. :) --------------------------------------------------
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:02:00 -
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Quote: Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Me too :/
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:08:00 -
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One could argue that the Armageddon wasn't designed with Tachyon II's in mind, much like you can't shove 425's on a Dommie without a bunch of RCU's, or 4 1400's and Seige on a Phoon. But at least you can get a Tachyon II fit on a Geddon, i've seen them melt Ravens and Throns in record time.
It's great being Amarr ain't it -----
Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
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GO MaZ
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ramming torpedo Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
When you're talking sniping setups, they all do. The ***** of a time you have fitting them is made up for by the fact that tachs do ~30% more damage compared to the other snipers.
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Ramming torpedo
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:23:00 -
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Hmm, so tachyon II's outdamage a raven railgunner with a load of SP?
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ramming torpedo Hmm, so tachyon II's outdamage a raven railgunner with a load of SP?
I think a taranis outdamages a rave railgunner with little SP.
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:35:00 -
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Gunnery >.>
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Nir
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:48:00 -
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Oh puhhhhlease, Amarr have plenty of things whine about.
From what i've seen, Tachyon's aint one of 'em.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Godar Marak on 14/10/2006 22:51:48
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Ramming torpedo Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
When you're talking sniping setups, they all do. The ***** of a time you have fitting them is made up for by the fact that tachs do ~30% more damage compared to the other snipers.
sniping mega can fit stabbs and a small rep. Tach geddon cant even tank a shuttle.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Yea, its great, right up the point where the other side has equal skills and his optimal is higher then your optimal + falloff. And you stop hitting jack didly.
Great being Amarr.
Dunno i always train for crap stuff then... when i was training for mega, it was t3h cr4p, now i'm training amarr, it's t3h crap... i like challenge. And cheap guns.
Sig is not eve related
Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak Edited by: Godar Marak on 14/10/2006 22:51:48
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Ramming torpedo Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
When you're talking sniping setups, they all do. The ***** of a time you have fitting them is made up for by the fact that tachs do ~30% more damage compared to the other snipers.
sniping mega can fit stabbs and a small rep. Tach geddon cant even tank a shuttle.
Just to clarify, shuttles dont dish out much damage.
It sucks be shafted dont it?
Quote:
Basically we've established, EVE physics > Amarr
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:04:00 -
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Tachyons are not meant to fit with ease.
Having the highest long range DPS (by a big margin) comes at a price. If you don't want to pay it, fit mega beams.
As for gimping your tank... what tank?
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Nyxus
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas Tachyons are not meant to fit with ease.
Having the highest long range DPS (by a big margin) comes at a price. If you don't want to pay it, fit mega beams.
As for gimping your tank... what tank?
Thats right! Other ships have more mids for sensor boosters and tracking enhances, Amarr has more lows so we can fit co-proc IIs and 2 RCUs!
And Megathrons don't fit 1600mm plates and mwds. Thats just a myth.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:19:00 -
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RCU's are the only way. It's great being Amarr, ain't it? I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |
webkert
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Ramming torpedo Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
When you're talking sniping setups, they all do. The ***** of a time you have fitting them is made up for by the fact that tachs do ~30% more damage compared to the other snipers.
t2 tachs: damagemod = 5,4 rof = 12,50
5,4/12,5=0,432
425mm t2 rail damagemod with damage bonus= 3,3x1.25=4,125 rof = 9,56
4,125/9,56=0,4314
0,432/0,4314=1.001
wow, 0.1% more dps with tachyons. Thats amazing, especially since tachyons are tier 4 guns, and 425mm rails are tier 3.
Although the rof bonus on the geddon and extra turret on the apoc kinda makes up for it. The same thing can't be said about the frigates and cruisers, where there is no tier 4 gun and amarr have an equal or less amount of turrethardpoints compaired to other races.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:46:00 -
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Advanced Weapon Upgrades trained to level 4 or 5 and RCUIIs.
Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
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Eva Hun
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.15 01:36:00 -
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dno why you are crying about, most dps not enough?
fly minny if you whant to cry,
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Kojiami
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Posted - 2006.10.15 01:41:00 -
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Giga beams ftw than :).
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GO MaZ
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.15 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: GO MaZ on 15/10/2006 01:54:19 Edited by: GO MaZ on 15/10/2006 01:53:31
Originally by: webkert
t2 tachs: damagemod = 5,4 rof = 12,50
5,4/12,5=0,432
425mm t2 rail damagemod with damage bonus= 3,3x1.25=4,125 rof = 9,56
4,125/9,56=0,4314
0,432/0,4314=1.001
wow, 0.1% more dps with tachyons. Thats amazing, especially since tachyons are tier 4 guns, and 425mm rails are tier 3.
oh really?
oh no my tier 1 battleship that costs 60m cant fit teh uber guns without fitting mods, yet it still does 30 odd percent more damage at similar range, has better tracking, instant reloads, and an alpha strike second only to the tempest (and the apoc, but you already knew that).
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Siakel
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Posted - 2006.10.15 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Hun fly minny if you whant to cry,
Minmatar have very little to whine about. They've got some of the best ships in almost every ship class.
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