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Lord Infy
Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.16 06:23:00 -
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With amarr bs lvl4, controlled bursts lvl4, geddon with 3 x HS II, 7 x Tach II w/ auroras, no cap mods, runs out of cap in less than one minute after constant shooty.
What an excellent setup for prolonged fleet battles.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 16/10/2006 06:58:10
Originally by: Lord Infy With amarr bs lvl4, controlled bursts lvl4, geddon with 3 x HS II, 7 x Tach II w/ auroras, no cap mods, runs out of cap in less than one minute after constant shooty.
What an excellent setup for prolonged fleet battles.
Prolonged/fleet/constant
does not happen. + if you want tachygeddon, train bs5 to utilize it's full potential.
At go maz, i've seen Smasher tanking entire AXE fleet in his arty tempest, so it's doable
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GO MaZ
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.16 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
At go maz, i've seen Smasher tanking entire AXE fleet in his arty tempest, so it's doable
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Juntz
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Posted - 2006.10.16 07:45:00 -
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I have BS5, AWU 5, all gunnery to 5 (including large beam spec 5), and fit 7 tach II's (usually with gleam) and 3 HSII's, plus a 3% damage implant. Add to that 5 sentry drones...anyone care to calculate my damage? I'm curious and it's 3am and I'm too tired to do math. Maybe one day amarr will get un-nerfed and my 11mil sp in lasers will be of use...
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Juntz I have BS5, AWU 5, all gunnery to 5 (including large beam spec 5), and fit 7 tach II's (usually with gleam) and 3 HSII's, plus a 3% damage implant. Add to that 5 sentry drones...anyone care to calculate my damage? I'm curious and it's 3am and I'm too tired to do math. Maybe one day amarr will get un-nerfed and my 11mil sp in lasers will be of use...
You get something like: 10.95 dmg mod 5.37s rof so that makes: 860dps
Sentrys suck, but if they do dmg of t1 heavys(they do little more), you can get another 240dps out of them (t1 ogres with maxed skills).
1100dps... most blasterthrons don't do this...
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.16 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Since when have Tachyons been equal to 425s?
For a while now.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Your version of 425s are megas, not Tachs. If you can't fit a rack of megas, THEN complain. Being upset you can't throw on a special 'supersized' gun in all your slots as easily as the normal 'big guns' is pretty weak Elve.
Again, Tachs have not been a special supersized gun for a while. Read my reply to Testy McTest.
And as ive previously pointed out already, you cant fit a full rack of Mega Beam IIs either. Not on the Geddon, not on the Apoc. With AWU 5, ofcourse. And im not even including an MWD or a Rep. Which the Megathron can fit without any problems.
Spot the imbalance. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 12:18:00 -
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Another injection in this debate could be whether its fair that the Apoc has the best alpha strike available with a rack of 1400s?
Then you are ofc over into a less race dividing issue, but should that position not be held by a Minmatar ship?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Since when have Tachyons been equal to 425s?
For a while now.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Your version of 425s are megas, not Tachs. If you can't fit a rack of megas, THEN complain. Being upset you can't throw on a special 'supersized' gun in all your slots as easily as the normal 'big guns' is pretty weak Elve.
Again, Tachs have not been a special supersized gun for a while. Read my reply to Testy McTest.
And as ive previously pointed out already, you cant fit a full rack of Mega Beam IIs either. Not on the Geddon, not on the Apoc. With AWU 5, ofcourse. And im not even including an MWD or a Rep. Which the Megathron can fit without any problems.
Spot the imbalance.
Elve before you get emo, mega has cpu issues you are all forgetting about. It needs one fitting mod as does arma/apoc/tempest. Or h4x implant(meaning you have to install implants after every jumpintobubbles where you die, not just setting long skill and live happy for a month like rest). But i agree, amarr have issues. More to follow when i can use t2 large guns for sure. Look at arma's dps above, guy with bs lvl4 could fire his tachyons II with aurora for 2 minutes constantly. Ofc u usually enter fight with lower cap(2/3 for mega usually), but that still gives you 90s of constant fire (which is not case in fleet fights)
I hope amarr gets revisit soon though, it's been awhile now till they got worse with every patch(RMR was final blow, compensation skills, t2 ammo, stacking nerf). Simply cap is life is valid for 1.5 racial bs (amarr + mega), and it's getting annoying. As if base 200 cap more will help you ...
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 14:03:00 -
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Mega is by far the best sniping BS atm with its massive tracking mod. Even with 3 tracing enhacers and motion prediction 5 an armageddons tachyon II with aurora cant hit over 130 transversal on small ships. And with radio L its optimal is 150 ish. Mega can hit shuttles at full transversal. On big ships with armor tank the geddon has awful dps. Ive had my tachyon II hit perfect for 120 (dominix) once where i can make them hit over 1000 on untanked structure. On shield tanks amarr are gods. I pushed out average hits of 60 against a well tanked nighthawk using dual heavy pulse laser II. Hehe broke his tank. _________________________________________
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DanMck
Amarr Rionnag Alba Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Mega is by far the best sniping BS atm with its massive tracking mod. Even with 3 tracing enhacers and motion prediction 5 an armageddons tachyon II with aurora cant hit over 130 transversal on small ships. And with radio L its optimal is 150 ish. Mega can hit shuttles at full transversal. On big ships with armor tank the geddon has awful dps. Ive had my tachyon II hit perfect for 120 (dominix) once where i can make them hit over 1000 on untanked structure. On shield tanks amarr are gods. I pushed out average hits of 60 against a well tanked nighthawk using dual heavy pulse laser II. Hehe broke his tank.
qft
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Mega is by far the best sniping BS atm with its massive tracking mod. Even with 3 tracing enhacers and motion prediction 5 an armageddons tachyon II with aurora cant hit over 130 transversal on small ships. And with radio L its optimal is 150 ish. Mega can hit shuttles at full transversal. On big ships with armor tank the geddon has awful dps. Ive had my tachyon II hit perfect for 120 (dominix) once where i can make them hit over 1000 on untanked structure. On shield tanks amarr are gods. I pushed out average hits of 60 against a well tanked nighthawk using dual heavy pulse laser II. Hehe broke his tank.
What are you babbling about. That tremendous tracking bonus brings 425mm rail slightly under tachyon tracking wise.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Elve before you get emo, mega has cpu issues you are all forgetting about. It needs one fitting mod as does arma/apoc/tempest. Or h4x implant(meaning you have to install implants after every jumpintobubbles where you die, not just setting long skill and live happy for a month like rest).
Ah but thats exactly the thing. I showed you a setup for a Mega that still has 36 CPU left for a single medslot. Granted, thats not alot and the setup didnt include a Rep, but with the implant this Rep WILL fit. (Could drop down to named Sensor Boosters too, i think) It fits, in the end. But what you are forgetting, is that the Apoc and Geddon ALSO have CPU issues. Its as close as a fit as the Mega.
F.e., Geddon: 7 Mega Beam II Quad LiF 2 Sensor Booster II 1 RCU II 1 PDU II 3 Tracking Enhancer II 2 Heat Sink II
One empty low and 28 CPU left. Last Heat Sink II would fit with an Implant, but im ALREADY wasting 2 slots on Grid. And thats with Mega Beams! A Med Rep II fits fit exactly 0.0 CPU left. Its all very close.
You see my point? Even if the Geddon had the grid to fit 7 Mega Beam IIs, CPU would be a limiting factor. (Atleast one of the saved lows would go to a CPU II anyhow.)
Originally by: LUKEC But i agree, amarr have issues. More to follow when i can use t2 large guns for sure. Look at arma's dps above, guy with bs lvl4 could fire his tachyons II with aurora for 2 minutes constantly. Ofc u usually enter fight with lower cap(2/3 for mega usually), but that still gives you 90s of constant fire (which is not case in fleet fights)
Meh, im not whining about cap, frankly. I rarely run out of cap in fleetbattles, its not really an issue. Cap is more of an issue when it comes to tanking, ie closerange guns etc. And im well aware that Mega's are like that in fleetbattles too. Having low cap is annoying when you need to repair or warp long distances, or like, MWD to a gate. But thats about all. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Lord Infy
Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.17 07:51:00 -
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Well, more than once I've run out of cap in a BIG fleet battle and had to warp to pos to wait for my cap to recharge which only takes about 650 seconds or so :D
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.17 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Your version of 425s are megas, not Tachs. If you can't fit a rack of megas, THEN complain. Being upset you can't throw on a special 'supersized' gun in all your slots as easily as the normal 'big guns' is pretty weak Elve.
Again, Tachs have not been a special supersized gun for a while. Read my reply to Testy McTest.
I do not recall this ever being said by Tuxford (or even TomB before him). Linkage?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.17 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Your version of 425s are megas, not Tachs. If you can't fit a rack of megas, THEN complain. Being upset you can't throw on a special 'supersized' gun in all your slots as easily as the normal 'big guns' is pretty weak Elve.
Again, Tachs have not been a special supersized gun for a while. Read my reply to Testy McTest.
I do not recall this ever being said by Tuxford (or even TomB before him). Linkage?
It was definitely said by tomb, also got quite alot of fire on that part, since it was in time when gankaggedons were killing scorps before scorps could lock them... And everyone was flying armas in pvp or ravens for pve :P
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.17 10:00:00 -
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Well, tomB did always have a soft spot for Amarr
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Kerosene
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.17 10:48:00 -
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The MWD is for interdictor bubbles. You've warped in at 200km and start shooting each other. The first time a cargo container is made, all the little enemy zergling tacklers are warping to it and dropping bubbles and tackling. You need the MWD to get out of the spheres.
Naturally though I'm ASCN so I don't know that. __
Originally by: Blacklight on BoB Just to be sure everyone is clear...
We use spies. We listen to your TS. We feed you false intel. We have no qualms about it whatsoever..
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regergy6h
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:08:00 -
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ewww geddon with tachyons ewwww!
geddon with 7 megapulses i like
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Sebroth
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ramming torpedo Gotta love a tier 1 BS that requires tech II like skills to reach it's full potential :).
Going to stick to pulses for a while i guess.
gotta love a tier 1 bs that requires t2 like skills even more then a geddon to reach it's full potential
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