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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 12:44:00 -
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Zarquon released this satement about the end of Teddybear corperation. I never talked in public about the internal problems these days but now have to add my view of the incident.
Read Zarquons statement here:
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As the CEO of Teddybears was inactive for months often, i usually took total command in our piracy operations and leaded merged teams of TDG, Bonecollector and Teddybear pilots into very successfull pirate operations. But i more and more saw myself wasting hours and hours in organising hunts because members of Teddybears and TDG needed much too long to get their ships combat-ready or equipment moved. Especially on low sec. operations the movement of equipment was a mess. After a while i decided that i don¦t want this internal mess anymore and started to propose a full merge into one corp to simplify operations and movement of corp equipment. The Teddybears were very diffucult on this mather and with each more day of lousy organisation that passed i more and more came to the opinion that i am not willing to waste more time and that i will leave them behind.
Unfriendly guy i am, i told them that their corp organisation is bad and that i am not willing to work with them anymore under these circumstands. After long discusson we all together accepted a merge into Teddybears because the Teddybears did want to keep their corpname at all costs. To solve the problem and unite the team i even decided to give up the TDG label! This was my last try to get this team straight!
After succesfull merging into Teddybears, Zarquon B. came back from a long inactivity period. He didn¦t know anything about our internal troubles and came to read my unfriendly comments about the Teddybear status in our seperated forums. What he didnt know is that everything said there was also said on TS straight into the faces of Teddybear members and is said till today: Teddybears were a chaotic group! Good fighters each of them, but totally unable to organise a gang bigger than 3 ships! Individualists over and over! What he also did never see is that a corp without active CEO looses its organisation and this really happened to Teddybears! So his own inactivty caused a lot of mismanagement and as CEO of TDG i tryed to help the Teddybears organisaton that was in a bad shape.
To make it short: after Zarquon went mad about what he read on our forums (basically that Teddybears are bad at organising and have no good gang commander) he left ROAAR. I felt that it is now time to make true what i told the chaotic parts of our group before and took reliable members with me back into TDG were we still are and now and run logistics the way i wanted to run them.
For me it¦s a fact that Zarquon acted like his daredevil nature told him to do: not talk - act! But a good leader and strategist needs more than this and so an era of extremly succesfful piracy in Syndcate and empire ended because he was unable to talk and i was sick of organising a gang of chaotic people. I felt like 1000 tons falling from my shoulders when i finally decided to leave it all behind.
All in all the Teddybear and TDG pilots of these days were the best pilots avaibale in the galaxy. But in an era of growing blobs and hard days for pirates their lack of organisation skills were inaceptable for me. A small gang of individualists is probably the best combat unit avaiable but as soon a certain gangsize occours, this style looses efficency. Operations in empire get very easy using a corpfreither and i was not willing to move 3 corphangars and 20 individual hangars just because some of the people arent able to teamplay. It is vital to a pirate corp to be extemly efficient - and that¦s why TDG is still here and all other pirate corps, including the Teddybears, have vanished.
I feel no anger about what happened - everything is like it should be.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:46:00 -
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Quote: Veto? Or are you just speaking of the 'old' pirate corps?
The old pirate corps like SI, m0o, Zombies, Jokers and so on. Those who started when EVE started or shortly after.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 14:20:00 -
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Quote: BE was started 7 months after launch and is still going strong.
Good work...if you need a hug, np.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 16:53:00 -
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It¦s not a fight and i will not allow that it will get a mud battle. I never talked to Zarq after he lfet and that¦s why he does not know some facts. However - TNT was the best combat unit ever in EVE and even some internal problems will not change that this explosive mixture caused a good explosion!
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 18:33:00 -
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Quote: I didn't want to speak on this matter but I feel I must. To claim that no other still exist is pure ignorance. If you can't even reconize your enemies victories then how can you claim such a statement? It's one thing to know you're good and another to respect that your enemy is also on that level. As it has been said, BURN EDEN for example is far from over. When you can pull in the amount of loot and currency they pull in from there even more well organized gang and tactics then you might be able to splurt such lies from that amature mouth of yours.
Untill then, let it be known. Ignorance shows real leadership.
Ok, there still exists Burn Eden that started 7 months after game started and you guys are great. If i was ignorant i am sorry. I don¦t want a "who has loger epeen-topic" here, i just want to add my comments to Zarquons article wich is in my eyes done because he missed some stuff while he was inactive. Since we are both very stubborn people, we never talked about it yet.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.12 19:43:00 -
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Quote: be gone! *throws holy water after Famine*
good 1
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:08:00 -
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How agonizing - epeen-contest.
So i add: for me, my ex-gangmates have been the best pilots in the galaxy and i wanted to let them know - in public. This does not mean that they are the best guys in this galaxy...it¦s just "for me".
So bag your epeens please and gtfo of this topic before Chode hauls in 3 freighters full of holy water and drownes you.
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.14 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lifewire on 14/09/2006 11:19:01 After a long convo with Zarquon he will remove his article. I think this is very noble and i recommend a forum-admin to now also delete this topic.
Our dirty laundry is not that dirty and it is useless to discuss it in public, especially if the topic gets only used as stage for trolls.
FORUM-ADMIN, PLZ DEL TOPIC, THANK YOU
Cya all in space
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Lifewire
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.09.14 23:30:00 -
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If BE snipes with stabs they are.......good pirates. My true opinion since playing the brave pirate and get ganked by a 20-men-blob just says you are a brave pirate, but not a good one.
However - this has nothing to do with the topic and i still hope a forum-admin deletes the topic since Zarq will remove the ROAAR-story and the topic is now useless.
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