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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.17 12:17:00 -
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Thread closed for a quick scrubing. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 14:34:00 -
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Some men just want to watch the world burn.
There's space for us all in New Eden.
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Manager -á || -á EVE Illuminati
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.17 21:18:00 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:53:00 -
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Removed posts that were personal attacks. Please refrain from them.
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Supogo Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:08:00 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.06.23 21:07:00 -
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Removed several insulting and offensive posts.
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
Quote:6. Racism and discrimination are prohibited.
Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges. ISD Supogo Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.02 21:38:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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GM Lelouch
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 05:39:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:baltec1 wrote:When we ran our caldari ice interdiction we killed about 600 macks in two weeks. Despite having a month of warning not a single one fitted a tank.
that reminds me, earlier in the thread there was talk about 'defensive' concord spawning being an exploit. i said to another poster i'd ask the gamemasters what the policy was, and ask permission to post the answer in the thread
Hello all,
In order to clear up our current stance concerning this mechanic, I'm going to attach the ticket response I sent to Benny Ohu:
We do not consider intentionally spawning CONCORD using disposable ships an exploit at this time. This is, like all policies, subject to change in the future if deemed necessary for some reason, but we have no current plans to make any changes to this stance.
To put our stance quite clearly, we currently make no distinction between these two scenarios:
a. Suicide gank. CONCORD is spawned because Player A attacks Player B without the rights to do so. b. Defensive spawning. CONCORD is spawned because Player A's alt character attacks Player A without the rights to do so.
My best guess would be that the confusion stems from different rules having been broken. There are two exploits of sorts which I can think of which could have led to warnings being placed in a scenario similar to "b" above.
1. Alt character recycling. It is considered a violation to recycle alt characters and/or trial accounts to bypass negative consequences. In this case, the consequences being escaped would be the standing hit for performing an unlawful attack in CONCORD protected space. 2. Escaping CONCORD retribution. If a player somehow manages to prevent destruction at the hand of CONCORD after performing an unlawful attack, then it is an exploit. We are currently not aware of any such exploits, but there have been ways to do this in the past which have since been fixed. Best regards, Lead GM Lelouch CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 |
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GM Lelouch
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 14:17:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Oh oh...You are going to get into trouble. It is clearly against posting policies to display discussions with GM's.
Prepare for a forum ban.
I make the rules, I can do that Best regards, Lead GM Lelouch CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 |
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GM Lelouch
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 03:19:00 -
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Altessa Post wrote:The proposal to "report them" is silly. I do not have the data to prove a violation. In fact, it is impossible for me to prove a recycle. So, next time please try to suppress the Pavlovian urge of your culture ("You should sue them!").
I also do not like the speculation about what is illegal and how CCP goes against them. That is just guesswork. Until today, I did believe that alt recycling is not a common practice. Yet, after my observation in Niarja I have my doubt.
Can somebody from CCP comment whether you actually do investigate into alt recycling?
I'll keep this brief but yes, we do investigate alt character recycling and we do take offenses of this nature very seriously.
What we cannot do is manually monitor every PVP ship loss which occurs in EVE so we need you, our players, to file a report and let us know if you suspect foul play of this sort. Alt recycling is not very common these days but it still does happen from time to time. Please do file a ticket including all the information you have concerning this loss, we'd be happy to look into it for you.
Alt recycling is verifiable in our logs and it will have consequences for the player's main account(s) too, if disposable accounts are used for this purpose.
One final clarification: Alt recycling is defined as the act of using a disposable character/account to perform actions which carry negative consequences within the game and then recycling (biomassing) the character to bypass said consequences and starting all over again with a new character.
1. Using an alt account to suicide gank and then farming up security status once it drops too low? This is totally okay with us. 2. Using an alt account to suicide gank and then deleting the character and replacing it with a new one once security status drops too low? This is not okay.
Hmm, I guess this post didn't end up being as brief as I intended but I hope you all found this post informative. Best regards, Lead GM Lelouch CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 |
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GM Lelouch
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.05 05:41:00 -
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Aalysia Valkeiper wrote:GM Lelouch wrote: One final clarification: Alt recycling is defined as the act of using a disposable character/account to perform actions which carry negative consequences within the game and then recycling (biomassing) the character to bypass said consequences and starting all over again with a new character.
1. Using an alt account to suicide gank and then farming up security status once it drops too low? This is totally okay with us. 2. Using an alt account to suicide gank and then deleting the character and replacing it with a new one once security status drops too low? This is not okay.
I am a little confused. Of what benefit is deleting the character with the low status (but with PvP skills) when you have to make a completely new character to replace him? Wouldn't the loss of a skilled character be a hindrance? I have done something like that with my mining characters. I gave a brand new character the isk and other assets owned by an established character (this is the established one), then retired the established character to the forum. I have given new characters the assets of more established characters before biomassing the older characters, tho. I have even stated multiple times in the forum I had done this and no one raised any alarms about 'recycling'. Wouldn't the loss of skills be considered a problem for PvP? My confusion is basically because I avoid PvP, I admit.
Alt recycling abuse is generally done with specific ships in mind which are quick and easy to train for yet have a comparably high alpha strike (destroyers). They're pretty quick to train for and a "serious" abuser usually has multiple alt accounts cycling in such a way that a new batch of disposable characters is in training while the current batch is in use. When Batch A's sec status gets too low, Batch B will be fully trained and ready to use. Once Batch B is used up, the replacement characters for Batch A are ready for use. If all this seems like more effort than it is worth, it is because it really is more effort than it is worth, unless you like having your main accounts suspended
All that being said, alt recycling really is not a common problem these days. We don't see very many tickets anymore where the reported player actually was recycling alts. It was much more common back when newly created characters started with more SP after character creation. Back then there were setups which practically had you in destroyers right after character creation. Best regards, Lead GM Lelouch CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514 |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.07 15:21:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
Also, in the general style of this thread, any 'No You!' directed at the above stated will be considered discussing forum moderation. In other words: Yes Me! ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:10:00 -
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Please do not post kill mail links outside of Crime & Punishment. Please also stay on topic.
Thanks! ISD Decoy Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:19:00 -
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Removed an inappropriate comment. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:46:00 -
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Happy birthday to the Lady. As birthday present I have removed a troll post. \o/ ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.16 10:26:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.16 15:25:00 -
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And again I have had to remove a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
Please people, it's perfectly fine to disagree with each other and to post your opinions or a reaction on the opinion of other without resorting to rpofanity or personal attacks. In other words, it is posible to do so without breaking the rules.
For example: 'Oh go hang yourself you bloody moron, I'm sick of you blabbering your pigshit all over this thread!' would most certainly get removed. It probably even gets you reported to CCP. On the other hand 'I can not put forward strongly enough the fact that I totally disagree with your line of thinking. I might even add I would find great difficulty in living with myself if I where to share your point of view!' would not. And in essence it says the same.... ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.07.17 08:42:00 -
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I have removed a reply (and the post quoting it) to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.07 03:45:00 -
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Removed a troll post. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:44:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.17 05:33:00 -
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Removed an off topic post or some. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:21:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.02 22:01:00 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some cleaning. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:56:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
That said, I would like to state the following: With the exception of the light-hearted 'fun' threads (this thread is not one of those), I always do my utmost best to stay impartial when moderating this forum. In other words I very seldom take a stance.
Today I do.
I have flown my Freighters, Jump Freighters, Blockade Runners, Deep space Transports and even my TI Industrials to hell and back in EvE. And still quite often do. High-sec, Low-sec, Null-sec, W-Space, I bring my cargo where it needs to go. For myself, my corp, my fellow corp members and our friends. It's one of the many things I like to do in this wonderful game.
In all my years of playing I lost 5 TI Industrials, two Blockade Runners and a Deep Space Transport. For comparison, in 2013 I flew in total 753 hauling runs in various vessels on one character. As said, to hell and back.
You want cargo X to go from A to B? Prepare!. Choose the ship you need, fit it well and make sure you are familiar with the fit. Scout the route, even in High-sec. For the bigger ships, use an escort and/or someone to web you for getting into warp faster. Use a jumpclone with appropriate implants for more (warp)speed, tank etcetera, use drugs as well for the same purpose. All this among other things.
Hell, accompanied by some friends in combat/Ewar ships I have flown a Freighter in Low-sec through a fully fledged all red gate camp (and arrived at 'B' with +/-20k hullpoints left...).. And I am not afraid to say there are characters out there that are better at it than me. Or against it for that matter. I will face the latter when that day comes and blow up in a glorious ball of fire. Local will read soon after: 'Playing character> gf'
Thread re-opened. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.03 19:25:00 -
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This topic has been discussed in this thread at length, viewed at from all possible angles and then re-discussed again. And again. And again. Multiple times. To start all over from there on. Rinse, repeat.
The only thing the continuation of this thread results in is not a better understanding of the many sides on and perspectives to this topic, or even a better understanding of each others motives behind the different standpoints taken. No, it only results in more work for ISD's CCL division.
Hence, thread locked. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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