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Gemma Wildfire
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:20:00 -
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Before I played this game I read stories of vast empty systems, regions where you could jump 10's of systems without seeing anyone. This intrigued me and reminded me of the feeling I often got back in the day playing Elite when you really did feel all alone in a vast universe.
I've been playing for a few months now and found this not to be the case, except for a few days over xmas when I was able to make some iskies exploring and hacking but apart from that New Eden feels like Tokoyo. People everywhere, whether in high, low or null. WH's are not much better.
Anyway this noob would love to see huge expanses of space made available. Double or triple the size of New Eden as it stands now. To be able to feel adrift in a vast cosmos would be awesome.
Perhaps, when subs were lower, it previously felt like this? Does New Eden feel crowded now to the old players? Other than WH space have CCP ever expanded the galaxy?
Stop standing so close to me :/
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers SpaceMonkey's Alliance
434
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:24:00 -
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you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3352
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:25:00 -
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Like the guy above said.
Get out of highsec. Preferably, go find a wormhole. Have fun. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
252
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:35:00 -
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There are highsec islands and out of the way HS areas that have between 1-10 people in them. You can easily be the only person in lowsec and nullsec. The game is plenty big if you want to find a quiet spot.
What you say it doesn't make sense.
If you'd like to see my reasoning, I refer you to the wookie defense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14
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Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:40:00 -
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There is a LOT of empty space. Yesterday we rolled our static for 4 hours and the only person we found was some dude harvesting gas in his venture. Bob hates us. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1911
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:47:00 -
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Gemma Wildfire wrote:Before I played this game I read stories of vast empty systems, regions where you could jump 10's of systems without seeing anyone. This intrigued me and reminded me of the feeling I often got back in the day playing Elite when you really did feel all alone in a vast universe.
I've been playing for a few months now and found this not to be the case, except for a few days over xmas when I was able to make some iskies exploring and hacking but apart from that New Eden feels like Tokoyo. People everywhere, whether in high, low or null. WH's are not much better.
Anyway this noob would love to see huge expanses of space made available. Double or triple the size of New Eden as it stands now. To be able to feel adrift in a vast cosmos would be awesome.
Perhaps, when subs were lower, it previously felt like this? Does New Eden feel crowded now to the old players? Other than WH space have CCP ever expanded the galaxy?
Stop standing so close to me :/
Its actually vast. In fact if it was possible to put every player subscribed into one system, equally spaced, with the old duel mwd thing doing 50k mps they wouldn't find other players for years using subwarp speeds.
What removes that feeling of vastness are the limited areas of interaction, the pointlessness of going to them (whens the last time you flew to a moon to see what was there?), the speed of travel vs the size of space and the trivial speed of scanning.
EvE is a fine wine that for some reason is served in paper cups basically. It had / has the potential to be great, but its currently being used as a space versioned Quake or Call of Duty.
Our only hope is it caves when SC comes out fully and someone buys it up realising its potential. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Herbinator d'Arcadie
Arkadian Knight
59
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:11:00 -
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Gemma Wildfire wrote:... Anyway this noob would love to see huge expanses of space made available. Double or triple the size of New Eden as it stands now. To be able to feel adrift in a vast cosmos would be awesome. ... Eve is very, very small.
As in a land-rush, it has all been staked out, carved up and fortified. To gain access to said open spaces all one has to do is become a soldier in one alliance or another.
A blog called this Conehead play style.
I much prefer your thinking, referring to a broadly expansive, alluring Eve Universe.
Oscillate all EVE systems (-1.0-áthrough 1.0, and back) over a ten year period; modified +/- by # of pod kills. Disentrench the older players! Improve game dynamic.
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1046
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:17:00 -
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"Nobody goes there anymore because it's too crowded." - Yogi Berra |
Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
180
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:20:00 -
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To answer OP:
High sec and low sec is extremely populated compared to back when I started. Remember living out of Rens and not having to go more than 2 jumps to be in empty high sec systems.
Low sec is actually less populated than I remember it... That is if you count the RMT armies living out of Ingunn for a few years. Lived next door to them and once manged to get no less than 200 hauler kills in an hour which ended in 45 mission ravens all called sdfgasifk, iasghfjh, asdfkuh etc. warping in to kill my lonely sleipnir. If you dont count them, you were lucky to find a ship or 2 piloted by real players. Then FW hit, and since, low sec has been very populated.
I got almost no experience with 0.0, but remember having a pos somewhere once. Managed to keep it alive alone, using a wreathe to fuel it 11 jumps into 0.0. (yeah, we have all been nubs once with too much time). Anyway, back then I only lost 2 loads of fuel in 3 months og running a pos. Now (in my limited experience) you can barely enter 0.0 without running into a camp. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
501
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:26:00 -
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Lowsec on the southern side of the map tends to be somewhat empty most of the time.
The lowsec systems with people are generally factionwar systems, systems one jump from highsec, islands used as cyno systems by JFs or the systems with NPC stations. Everything else tends to be empty.
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1758
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:30:00 -
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0.5/10
Go to nullsec, its almost completely empty! New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2336
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:32:00 -
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OP, there are plenty of sparsely populated areas. You're just not looking hard enough for them.
Infinity Ziona wrote: What removes that feeling of vastness are the limited areas of interaction, the pointlessness of going to them (whens the last time you flew to a moon to see what was there?), the speed of travel vs the size of space and the trivial speed of scanning.
A few days ago?
Quote:EvE is a fine wine that for some reason is served in paper cups basically. It had / has the potential to be great, but its currently being used as a space versioned Quake or Call of Duty.
Garden-variety, aimless bitervet whining. You live in AUS Tz of all places, its even less populated then. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
338
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:38:00 -
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Gemma Wildfire wrote: People everywhere, whether in high, low or null. WH's are not much better. I think you're lying, if you've been out of highsec you would of known that not be true. I disagree |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
182
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:44:00 -
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Imagine if there was a way to fly our ships "in-between" solar systems !!! |
Shadowlightt
Apex Innovations
61
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:47:00 -
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Think of it this way
Caldari space is los angeles
Gallente space is chicago
Amarr space is london
Minmatar space is detroit
Null sec is the middle east
Low sec is somalia
Wormhoe space is hawaii |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:00:00 -
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I recently took a little wormhole-roam deep into null on the eastern edge of the map. We could not find a single pilot to shoot at for 6 jumps in any direction from where we came out of the hole.
It was so empty and so dead we went back to the hole and went home.
Just look at the starmap. Most null systems are empty, most of the time. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
492
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:19:00 -
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ITTigerClawIK wrote:you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated.
Yes this is what 0.0 usually is like. |
Sibyyl
292
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:21:00 -
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Like Bael Malefic said, figure out how to look at population per system on the starmap. OP sounds like they came to a conclusion without really trying to play the game.
/Fÿ¡ Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
5
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:23:00 -
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I've been roaming null and have easily done 10 jumps without seeing anyone. You need to leave hisec. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
934
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:27:00 -
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EVE being a game where the majority of content is created by players, why would you want to play it in empty places? You would have nothing to do but PVE by yourself, and we all know where that road ends.
The more players around, the better. www.everevolutionaryfront.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
417
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:30:00 -
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Talia Prime wrote:I've been roaming null and have easily done 10 jumps without seeing anyone. You need to leave hisec.
Its only this way because passive income in NS allows groups to project further then they would otherwise be capable of doing. If entities like CFC were forced to play to their realistic wallet size then you wouldn't be able to have this luxury as more pilots would have to be in space playing the game, instead of sitting docked up waiting on a jabber ping to blob timer, and have their ships replaced if they lose them.
Get rid of the passive income streams from moons and planets and you will see the nullbears come out of hibernation. Only reason null is empty is because the majority of players in null don't need to grind isk to replace lost ships. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
273
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:59:00 -
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Hell I recently moved an alt from jita through 15 0.0 systems to get to my wh entrance. Besides the first system which was hed-gp and semi camped (had 5 people on the gate) the other 14 systems were completely empty. 0.0 has huge sections of space with not a soul in them. It makes me wonder why large alliances hold space they never use, but I digress. Eve is like the real world, you have your major cities full of people, then you have your rural areas that are empty or sparsely populated. Get out of HS, the further you get away from the hubs the less people are around |
Hal Morsh
The Witch's Hammer
98
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:40:00 -
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Grunanca wrote: That is if you count the RMT armies living out of Ingunn for a few years. Lived next door to them and once manged to get no less than 200 hauler kills in an hour which ended in 45 mission ravens all called sdfgasifk, iasghfjh, asdfkuh etc. warping in to kill my lonely sleipnir.
This is a story I am sure the forums would love to hear. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2292
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:53:00 -
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No it's not.
New Eden isn't too small, players just prefer to congregate around certain areas. Even then, it's not that crowded. Go into deep null and you can go hours without seeing another ship or even another player in local. Even some places in highsec have fewer than ten people in the system.
Now with that said, is players congregating in just a handful of areas a problem in the game and can it be fixed? Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1135
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:24:00 -
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"I've been playing for a few months now "
2/10, You seriously want people to believe that you've seen the entire game in a few months?
And clearly you've never been to most areas of 0.0, or low-sec for that matter.
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
844
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:39:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:To answer OP:
High sec and low sec is extremely populated compared to back when I started. Remember living out of Rens and not having to go more than 2 jumps to be in empty high sec systems.
Low sec is actually less populated than I remember it... That is if you count the RMT armies living out of Ingunn for a few years. Lived next door to them and once manged to get no less than 200 hauler kills in an hour which ended in 45 mission ravens all called sdfgasifk, iasghfjh, asdfkuh etc. warping in to kill my lonely sleipnir. If you dont count them, you were lucky to find a ship or 2 piloted by real players. Then FW hit, and since, low sec has been very populated.
I got almost no experience with 0.0, but remember having a pos somewhere once. Managed to keep it alive alone, using a wreathe to fuel it 11 jumps into 0.0. (yeah, we have all been nubs once with too much time). Anyway, back then I only lost 2 loads of fuel in 3 months og running a pos. Now (in my limited experience) you can barely enter 0.0 without running into a camp.
The common entry systems are camped. Once in you can fly dozens of jumps and rarely see anyone in local and nothing on dscan. I ran 2 pith penals in someone elses space at the weekend in 1 system. It was a station system and in all that time no one else entered local. Much of null is empty and most of the people you do see are more scared of you than you are of them. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
219
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:46:00 -
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Gemma Wildfire wrote:Before I played this game I read stories of vast empty systems, regions where you could jump 10's of systems without seeing anyone. This intrigued me and reminded me of the feeling I often got back in the day playing Elite when you really did feel all alone in a vast universe.
I've been playing for a few months now and found this not to be the case, except for a few days over xmas when I was able to make some iskies exploring and hacking but apart from that New Eden feels like Tokoyo. People everywhere, whether in high, low or null. WH's are not much better.
Anyway this noob would love to see huge expanses of space made available. Double or triple the size of New Eden as it stands now. To be able to feel adrift in a vast cosmos would be awesome.
Perhaps, when subs were lower, it previously felt like this? Does New Eden feel crowded now to the old players? Other than WH space have CCP ever expanded the galaxy?
Stop standing so close to me :/
As I said before, rumor is that much of Delve region is empty. Aside from that I would still prefer the number of systems to quadruple, at least. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
557
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:49:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Like the guy above said.
Get out of highsec. Preferably, go find a wormhole. Have fun.
I can't remember the last time I saw a WH that was without an online tower inside it and POCOs over the planets. And I can't remember the last time I poked my head though a nullsec WH and there was nobody in local, or it wasn't "owned" by some alliance or other.
Every single system in Eve is populated in some respect or another. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
220
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:05:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Like the guy above said.
Get out of highsec. Preferably, go find a wormhole. Have fun. I can't remember the last time I saw a WH that was without an online tower inside it and POCOs over the planets. And I can't remember the last time I poked my head though a nullsec WH and there was nobody in local, or it wasn't "owned" by some alliance or other. Every single system in Eve is populated in some respect or another.
I agree with your WH assertion. Every time I poke into a WH just to look around I see online POSs inside or ships right on the hole I just came in. I have never seen an empty WH. |
Serene Repose
1164
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:24:00 -
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If nobody wants to go into null sec, we can't stop them. - Yogi Berra(ish) - I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
268
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:33:00 -
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You didn't! Oh yes you did! So all that big blue donut out there is because New Eden is too small and not because there is too much space available? Yes there are more players but there are large swaths of bused 0.0 out there. I know I've seen and used them. You need to get out and explore more. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
304
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:38:00 -
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The OP says all this in order to avoid returning to Amarr and his/her rightful position as a slave.
(The galaxy is too small. Ah me. What excuse will they find next?) Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
394
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:38:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:"I've been playing for a few months now "
2/10, You seriously want people to believe that you've seen the entire game in a few months?
And clearly you've never been to most areas of 0.0, or low-sec for that matter. Relax Bob.
Victoria Sin wrote:Every single system in Eve is populated in some respect or another. If you want to call towering moons and setting up POCOs "populated" then sure. It would be torturing the definition of "activity" though. They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc. Easily Excited
889
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:01:00 -
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Go to 9 out of 10 lowsec systems. Chances are nobody has entered those systems all week. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1187
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:55:00 -
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I like the quiet and lonely places, you've just got to know where to look. If anything it's under utilised space that we see around us. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Rikii Rook
The Phoenix Group LTD
3
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:27:00 -
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I've been playing for about four weeks now. Last week I got bored doing hisec missions. I jumped into a cheap fitted Merlin and just picked a direction. I went out thirty jumps into low sec and only saw a few pilots and most of those we're single pilots in local. If you use the star map filters you can plan a route into low sec with relative security. And for the love of god leave auto pilot off. Once I got out into deep 0.0 there was nobody around at all. Unfortunately I got stomped just one jump from high sec on my back to home base.
I for one plan on moving out into 0.0 once I complete training. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3357
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:41:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Like the guy above said.
Get out of highsec. Preferably, go find a wormhole. Have fun. I can't remember the last time I saw a WH that was without an online tower inside it and POCOs over the planets. And I can't remember the last time I poked my head though a nullsec WH and there was nobody in local, or it wasn't "owned" by some alliance or other. Every single system in Eve is populated in some respect or another.
Hardly. I pop into supposedly "occupied" holes all the time, both on this character and on one of my explorers. 1 in 5 might actually have people in it. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
174
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:54:00 -
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Jumped today from wh to some fidelas constans station system and not a soul was in sight err in local. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2629
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:55:00 -
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Rikii Rook wrote:
I for one plan on moving out into 0.0 once I complete training.
Respect for the part of your post I deleted. The part I left I want to isolate in case no one else does. The is not point where you 'complete' training or that you are 'ready' to move to 0.0. You have already been there. find a group to move out with and go now. The more skills you learn the harsher the lessons, you will learn out there, can be. You might as well go while the losses are guaranteed to hurt less than when you have 10 millions skill points and the 'ability' to 'fly' larger more expensive ships |
Kaydee Hope
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:01:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Gemma Wildfire wrote:Before I played this game I read stories of vast empty systems, regions where you could jump 10's of systems without seeing anyone. This intrigued me and reminded me of the feeling I often got back in the day playing Elite when you really did feel all alone in a vast universe.
I've been playing for a few months now and found this not to be the case, except for a few days over xmas when I was able to make some iskies exploring and hacking but apart from that New Eden feels like Tokoyo. People everywhere, whether in high, low or null. WH's are not much better.
Anyway this noob would love to see huge expanses of space made available. Double or triple the size of New Eden as it stands now. To be able to feel adrift in a vast cosmos would be awesome.
Perhaps, when subs were lower, it previously felt like this? Does New Eden feel crowded now to the old players? Other than WH space have CCP ever expanded the galaxy?
Stop standing so close to me :/
Its actually vast. In fact if it was possible to put every player subscribed into one system, equally spaced, with the old duel mwd thing doing 50k mps they wouldn't find other players for years using subwarp speeds. What removes that feeling of vastness are the limited areas of interaction, the pointlessness of going to them (whens the last time you flew to a moon to see what was there?), the speed of travel vs the size of space and the trivial speed of scanning. EvE is a fine wine that for some reason is served in paper cups basically. It had / has the potential to be great, but its currently being used as a space versioned Quake or Call of Duty. Our only hope is it caves when SC comes out fully and someone buys it up realising its potential.
I have explored the vastness of moons and planets before (but usually only when im bouncing from one celestial to the next trying to stay ahead of the gang chasing after me in null sec!!!!! |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3311
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:28:00 -
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Took an alt from Jita to the ORE station 4C-B7X in Outer Ring, taking the slow route via the nulsec border system PF-346 in Syndicate.
Ran into only one bubble directly on a gate. I managed to avoid all the drag / stop bubbles.
Most of the systems were empty. A few low populations had like maybe 1-5. 4C-B7X itself had about 10, but that fluctuated a lot as there was a 35+ man fleet roaming through the system.
Alt arrived safely in 4C-B7X station. Alt was in an Ibis.
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
395
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:51:00 -
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Rikii Rook wrote:Unfortunately I got stomped just one jump from high sec on my back to home base.
I for one plan on moving out into 0.0 once I complete training. That last jump is almost always the one that gets you. :)
Learn to bounce off celestials in uncharted systems.
And check your wallet. They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2508
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Posted - 2014.03.24 23:16:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated. Yes this is what 0.0 usually is like.
That's because most 0.0 is garbage space that isn't worth living in. The only reason people IHUB it at all is because otherwise your asking for someone to do a quick flip of sov during your off hours, plop a staging system down and taking all of your ****.
If CCP threw away the current military index system and instead allowed you some method to grind truesec down to a nice moneymaking level you'd see a much more populated nullsec. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
443
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Posted - 2014.03.24 23:20:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:you have obviously never been into 0.0 space , there are ALOT of empty systems out there, high sec and low sec are usually well populated. Yes this is what 0.0 usually is like. That's because most 0.0 is garbage space that isn't worth living in. The only reason people IHUB it at all is because otherwise your asking for someone to do a quick flip of sov during your off hours, plop a staging system down and taking all of your ****. If CCP threw away the current military index system and instead allowed you some method to grind truesec down to a nice moneymaking level you'd see a much more populated nullsec.
Ya because I don't farm 120m/hr + in all that **** space running anoms/plexes that CFC can't be bothered to use. I thank you for thinking the space sucks though, and will continue to pad my empire of isk until someone stops telling you lies.
(its not the best isk, but its better than running missions) |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1369
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Posted - 2014.03.25 03:00:00 -
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Jessica Duranin wrote:There is a LOT of empty space. Yesterday we rolled our static for 4 hours and the only person we found was some dude harvesting gas in his venture. Bob hates us.
Bob was just casting his gaze elsewhere. I returned to wh space after a week in hisec and Bob gifted me with a pimped out Gnosis and a Navy Raven added to my killboard. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:12:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Talia Prime wrote:I've been roaming null and have easily done 10 jumps without seeing anyone. You need to leave hisec. Its only this way because passive income in NS allows groups to project further then they would otherwise be capable of doing. If entities like CFC were forced to play to their realistic wallet size then you wouldn't be able to have this luxury as more pilots would have to be in space playing the game, instead of sitting docked up waiting on a jabber ping to blob timer, and have their ships replaced if they lose them. Get rid of the passive income streams from moons and planets and you will see the nullbears come out of hibernation. Only reason null is empty is because the majority of players in null don't need to grind isk to replace lost ships.
I always thought, if they removed those passive income sources, and made it player interactive, null sec would be the funnest part of EvE, as it is, no one really has a reason to go there unless you're collecting from those passive income streams, which seems to be a select few people, kudos to them for gaming the current system, but that same current system is the reason for the lack of goodfites, and the prevalence of blobs, what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.03.25 05:17:00 -
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Dagar Bly wrote: what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck.
Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Jith
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.25 06:14:00 -
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Get more players, it will become even smaller. |
Reiisha
Evolution
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Posted - 2014.03.25 08:55:00 -
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Batelle wrote:OP, there are plenty of sparsely populated areas. You're just not looking hard enough for them.
The point of the OP was that they shouldn't be hard to find.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2014.03.25 10:36:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Batelle wrote:OP, there are plenty of sparsely populated areas. You're just not looking hard enough for them. The point of the OP was that they shouldn't be hard to find.
But they aren't hard to find.
They are very, very easy to find. Just use the star map.
Whether or not they are easy to get to may be a different matter.
For what it's worth, I used to think it was hard to get into null. I used to get blown up by gate camps all the time. I still do but only occasionally because I learned how to avoid them, most of the time.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
578
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:57:00 -
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There's still plenty of remote & empty space in EvE. Even in lowsec and highsec! Ammatar & south Amarr space has sparsely populated regions, you can travel even in highsec (with stations!) without seeing a soul. I sometimes travel there, to enjoy the solitude and quiet there.
Just remember, sparsely populated space also has a disadvantage: low to no market-activity and the nearest tradehub is far, far away. -áFirst year anniversary of the Caldari Prime battle was a success! Preparations for the first year anniversary of the Battle for Caldari Prime |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
504
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:23:00 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:There's still plenty of remote & empty space in EvE. Even in lowsec and highsec! Ammatar & south Amarr space has sparsely populated regions, you can travel even in highsec (with stations!) without seeing a soul. I sometimes travel there, to enjoy the solitude and quiet there.
Just remember, sparsely populated space also has a disadvantage: low to no market-activity and the nearest tradehub is far, far away.
Khanid hisec is a bit that way as well. |
Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:09:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote: what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck. Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part?
No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3401
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:24:00 -
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Dagar Bly wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote: what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck. Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to.
"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote: what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck. Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to. "epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me.
Not when there is competition for the sites, sounds like a lot of goodfites to me.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3416
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:57:00 -
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Dagar Bly wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Dagar Bly wrote: what null sec SHOULD be is a massive every man for himself warzone with epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer, what it IS, is just suck. Who ever said such a thing? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? No one, that would just be fun, instead of a dead space I have to reason to go to. "epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player game, to me. Not when there is competition for the sites, sounds like a lot of goodfites to me.
So, are we just assuming that other people straight up are not allowed to be in a fleet, corp, alliance, or form metagame groups, then?
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Dagar Bly
EvE Character Portrait REDUX
7
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Posted - 2014.03.25 14:51:00 -
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"epic reward possibilities for the solo capsuleer" sounds a lot like a single player
So, are we just assuming that other people straight up are not allowed to be in a fleet, corp, alliance, or form metagame groups, then? [/quote]
It could be designed that way, wouldn't it bee fun? I think so, but who cares really, it's not in the game, so sure, you can be right, idc. |
Old Salty
Sovereign Systems OuterWorld
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 02:27:00 -
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EVE is definitely too small, the game has been won, the dream is over, null sec is a joke, you can only own land by someone's leave, Either lengthen gate jump times, or expand the universe, Totally unrealistic to travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in an hour or two... also, get rid of local everywhere, and kill off locator agents.... I hope CCP sells the game to people with a brain.....just saying |
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