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Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:34:00 -
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Backstory : All I wanted to do was join Goonwaffle, and I pm'd a recruiter, and well things we're going fine until my app was rejected because of a corp I was in previously for for 8 hours that apparently they dont like. Was I aware of this no, I dont follow politics. So fine, did I get my 800 mil recruitment despoit back? No. Did I get my assets back that I contracted to be moved to their system, no. So yeah, just something to think about before you apply to Goonwaffle.
Viktor Raybach > Okay, all gone green. Welcome to the Swarm! Digitalmare > thanks :) Digitalmare > btw do i have to reapply Digitalmare > just noticed my app was rejected Digitalmare > (eve side) Viktor Raybach > When did you put it in? Digitalmare > when we were talking and i was sorting my contracts out with yuni Viktor Raybach > Ahh that would be before the security deposit then, could be why it got flagged Digitalmare > ah Digitalmare > so apply again? Viktor Raybach > Yep, give it another go - sorry organising a gate camp at the moment so just focusing on that for a few Digitalmare > sent Viktor Raybach > Good stuff, welcome aboard. Digitalmare > i think you may have to ping the powers that be, still unprocessed :) Viktor Raybach > It can take a few - ping me if it's not done in an hour and i'll rattle the cages. Digitalmare > alright cool Digitalmare > well thanks for everything, looking forward to flying with the goons :) Digitalmare > rejected again Digitalmare > is there something else i need to do? Viktor Raybach > Okay I need to grab some food but i'll drop a mail to the head of recruitment to see what's going on with it. Sorry about this, should get it all sorted soon enough. Digitalmare > k Digitalmare > um Digitalmare > think we both have a problem Digitalmare > i basically cant join because of the corp i joined for less than a few hours Digitalmare > says pulsar Digitalmare > hello? Digitalmare > i'm going to need my deposit back and stuff that i contracted.... Digitalmare > dude i dont want any problems, i wanted to join you guys and apparently the corp i joined for 8 hours caused a problem, now i just want my isk back so i can be on my way Digitalmare > the person who i contracted my assets too apparently isnt going to give my stuff back without charging me 350mil, and im not paying for my own **** back, ive got more self respect than that Digitalmare > if your not going to give my 800mil back just say so, ive got other things to do then get ****** over all day Viktor Raybach > I just got back from eating and am getting ragepinged because of you, so i'm going to have to go find out what the heck's going on and what you've been trying to pull. Digitalmare > what ive been trying to pull? Digitalmare > dude i just wanted to join a corp, and apparently its caused me to lose all my isk and assets Digitalmare > ive done nothing wrong Viktor Raybach > Sure, that's why i'm getting yelled at by counter-intel people. Thanks for landing me in a world of ****. Digitalmare > explain to me how any of this is my fault? Digitalmare > if recruiting me was going to be a problem, maybe you should of told me or not recruited me? Digitalmare > i dont have time for video game drama, all i want is my isk back that i sent you and ill just call it a day Viktor Raybach > So why were you in the theta standing fleet in the first place then? join a corp, 24 hours later apply to goons. I bought your story, I believed you, but you've landed me in it. So thanks a bunch! Digitalmare > um Digitalmare > i went into a recruitment channel looking to join a nullsec corp Digitalmare > and someone convo'd me and i joined, left because it wasnt active Digitalmare > convo'd a recruit from goons Digitalmare > how is any of this a problem on my end? Digitalmare > sounds to me like you made the mistakes not me, all i wanted to do was join a ******* corp, so stop acting as if i caused a problem Viktor Raybach > You're not getting me to feel sorry for you after what you pulled, I bought your story once, i'm not buying it again. Now I need to go talk to directorate about this and try and keep my recruiter status! Digitalmare > lol Digitalmare > really bro? Digitalmare > i have no ******* story Digitalmare > i play video games, dot. Digitalmare > you claim to be a business man in real life well i can tell how u run your businesses Digitalmare > if your going to scam me out of my isk Digitalmare > then just say so Digitalmare > im done playing your video game drama mindgames Viktor Raybach > You scammed me, don't try and turn this around! Digitalmare > is this funny to you or something? Digitalmare > dude if i have to ill just post this convo to a director in your corp Digitalmare > so either give me my deposit back or let me know your keeping it Viktor Raybach > I don't have it. I can't give it to you. And we don't return security deposits to scammers anyways! Digitalmare > what did i scam from you? Digitalmare > apparently this is all funny to you Digitalmare > i hope its all worth it to you |
Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:35:00 -
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Voted 5 would read again The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal
The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:41:00 -
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It's quite sad really, I mean its one thing to scam in Eve, but to scam during recruitment? Really? That's a whole different level of scumbag. |
Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:41:00 -
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Good first post. Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
370
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:42:00 -
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Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:47:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Really? I must of missed that in the following text.
Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours.
Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!) |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1614
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:47:00 -
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I swear, how much do you have to pay to become a goon recruiter? Sounds like a sweet job.
Sixx Spades wrote:Good first post.
Digitalmare wrote:It's quite sad really, I mean its one thing to scam in Eve, but to scam during recruitment? Really? That's a whole different level of scumbag. omg twins "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Enya Dorne
19
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:55:00 -
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How do people keep falling for it? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
370
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:59:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Really? I must of missed that in the following text. Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours. Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!)
https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101
Simple. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 21:07:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Really? I must of missed that in the following text. Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours. Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!) https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101Simple.
I get it, one website to scam people, and the other to warn you. So really it's a roll of the dice, and if you're like a lot of people who happen to go to http://goonfleet.net/ before going to https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101, you will get scammed. Pathetic.... |
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse Cannibal Empire
3270
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Posted - 2014.02.07 22:58:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Really? I must of missed that in the following text. Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours. Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!) https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101Simple. I get it, one website to scam people, and the other to warn you. So really it's a roll of the dice, and if you're like a lot of people who happen to go to http://goonfleet.net/ before going to https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101, you will get scammed. Pathetic....
Nope the Pathetic part is you actually falling for it.
Especially considering the overwhelming evidence on the net and the forums. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Admiral Grr
Bee Exterminators Bee Squashers
1
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:13:00 -
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Join my corp instead and be part of history as we smash goons. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
558
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:33:00 -
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/facepalms
Congratulations, OP , you just flunked the EVE IQ Test.
You lose. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
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Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.07 23:59:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Digitalmare wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Wow.
I have no idea how this crap keeps happening and idiots keep posting it.
Seriously.... THE GOONWAFFE WEBSITE tells you how to join and plainly says "If you pay money to join, you were scammed".
Really? I must of missed that in the following text. Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours. Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!) https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101Simple. I get it, one website to scam people, and the other to warn you. So really it's a roll of the dice, and if you're like a lot of people who happen to go to http://goonfleet.net/ before going to https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101, you will get scammed. Pathetic.... Nope the Pathetic part is you actually falling for it. Especially considering the overwhelming evidence on the net and the forums.
You're assuming I live on and or pay attention to forums....to each their own I guess.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
225
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:14:00 -
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I'm bored of trolling for the day. Why didn't the words "recruitment deposit" send up red flags all over the place? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:37:00 -
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Live and learn..... |
Domineren
failing war report Darwins Lemmings
1317
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:02:00 -
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Admiral Grr wrote:Join my corp instead and be part of history as we smash goons. You may not want someone as stupid as that Senn Denroth - Highsec PVP is only for the elite of the elite....
I LOVE DODIXIE <3
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Admiral Grr
Bee Exterminators Bee Squashers
3
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:32:00 -
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Domineren wrote:Admiral Grr wrote:Join my corp instead and be part of history as we smash goons. You may not want someone as stupid as that
We do not discriminate based on prior poor decisions. I believe the original poster here has learned a valuable lesson. It is good it was learned now, rather than later, otherwise it could have been far worse. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1126
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Posted - 2014.02.08 04:30:00 -
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At this point I think the best thing to do is for OP to contact Erotica 1. I'm pretty sure she can help set things right again. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Zappity
Kurved Space
811
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Posted - 2014.02.08 07:09:00 -
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Don't worry OP. I got scammed once (not by goons). But it only happened once.
Now I even have trouble trusting my alt when using the Trade window. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.08 08:15:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:Digitalmare > if recruiting me was going to be a problem, maybe you should of told me or not recruited me?
Brush up your English skills before you post next time, thank you. |
Davish Krail
69
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Posted - 2014.02.08 09:05:00 -
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I've read the chat logs very closely, and the problem seems to be that proper procedure was not followed. It's pretty simple, if you have a questionable corp history, then you are likely to be flagged by any proper nullsec auth team, and this isn't just for GSF.
You can't blame the poor recruiter because of your suspicious actions, I just hope he will keep his recruiter status. I think the OP should take a long hard look at themselves before engaging in vicious slander.
I think you'll find that it's against C&P rules to post chat logs too. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10170
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Posted - 2014.02.08 10:38:00 -
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So to get this straight, he was about to recruit the most obvious S2N spy that exists, one who was already getting ready to give the enemy intelligence on Theta's critical opsec mining detail, and we slammed the brakes on his application. Viktor is being reprimanded for completely lacking the ability to judge an applicant before proceeding with processing, and we're keeping the spy's security deposit as a penalty for his transgressions. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:26:00 -
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Andski wrote:So to get this straight, he was about to recruit the most obvious S2N spy that exists, one who was already getting ready to give the enemy intelligence on Theta's critical opsec mining detail, and we slammed the brakes on his application. Viktor is being reprimanded for completely lacking the ability to judge an applicant before proceeding with processing, and we're keeping the spy's security deposit as a penalty for his transgressions.
Shouldn't you be attending a live action rpg game somewhere in a public park? You're taking this entirely too serious.
Nobody believes your bullshit. Your corp pulls this scam daily, and I being a newer player fell for it, end of discussion.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10174
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Posted - 2014.02.08 15:56:00 -
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>Newer player
>Has played for 22 months Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.08 16:25:00 -
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I've quit playing EVE several times, just recently got back into the game and been having fun. Enjoy the 800mil your corp scammed. Honestly it's nothing to me. I make double that per hour irl. Everyone makes mistakes, it's what you learn from them that matters. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1133
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Posted - 2014.02.08 17:54:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:Backstory : All I wanted to do was join Goonwaffle, and I pm'd a recruiter, and well things we're going fine until my app was rejected because of a corp I was in previously for for 8 hours that apparently they dont like. Was I aware of this no, I dont follow politics. So fine, did I get my 800 mil recruitment despoit back? No. Did I get my assets back that I contracted to be moved to their system, no. So yeah, just something to think about before you apply to Goonwaffle.
Viktor Raybach > Okay, all gone green. Welcome to the Swarm! Digitalmare > thanks :) Digitalmare > btw do i have to reapply Digitalmare > just noticed my app was rejected Digitalmare > (eve side) Viktor Raybach > When did you put it in? Digitalmare > when we were talking and i was sorting my contracts out with yuni Viktor Raybach > Ahh that would be before the security deposit then, could be why it got flagged Digitalmare > ah Digitalmare > so apply again? Viktor Raybach > Yep, give it another go - sorry organising a gate camp at the moment so just focusing on that for a few Digitalmare > sent Viktor Raybach > Good stuff, welcome aboard. Digitalmare > i think you may have to ping the powers that be, still unprocessed :) Viktor Raybach > It can take a few - ping me if it's not done in an hour and i'll rattle the cages. Digitalmare > alright cool Digitalmare > well thanks for everything, looking forward to flying with the goons :) Digitalmare > rejected again Digitalmare > is there something else i need to do? Viktor Raybach > Okay I need to grab some food but i'll drop a mail to the head of recruitment to see what's going on with it. Sorry about this, should get it all sorted soon enough. Digitalmare > k Digitalmare > um Digitalmare > think we both have a problem Digitalmare > i basically cant join because of the corp i joined for less than a few hours Digitalmare > says pulsar Digitalmare > hello? Digitalmare > i'm going to need my deposit back and stuff that i contracted.... Digitalmare > dude i dont want any problems, i wanted to join you guys and apparently the corp i joined for 8 hours caused a problem, now i just want my isk back so i can be on my way Digitalmare > the person who i contracted my assets too apparently isnt going to give my stuff back without charging me 350mil, and im not paying for my own **** back, ive got more self respect than that Digitalmare > if your not going to give my 800mil back just say so, ive got other things to do then get ****** over all day Viktor Raybach > I just got back from eating and am getting ragepinged because of you, so i'm going to have to go find out what the heck's going on and what you've been trying to pull. Digitalmare > what ive been trying to pull? Digitalmare > dude i just wanted to join a corp, and apparently its caused me to lose all my isk and assets Digitalmare > ive done nothing wrong Viktor Raybach > Sure, that's why i'm getting yelled at by counter-intel people. Thanks for landing me in a world of ****. Digitalmare > explain to me how any of this is my fault? Digitalmare > if recruiting me was going to be a problem, maybe you should of told me or not recruited me? Digitalmare > i dont have time for video game drama, all i want is my isk back that i sent you and ill just call it a day Viktor Raybach > So why were you in the theta standing fleet in the first place then? join a corp, 24 hours later apply to goons. I bought your story, I believed you, but you've landed me in it. So thanks a bunch! Digitalmare > um Digitalmare > i went into a recruitment channel looking to join a nullsec corp Digitalmare > and someone convo'd me and i joined, left because it wasnt active Digitalmare > convo'd a recruit from goons Digitalmare > how is any of this a problem on my end? Digitalmare > sounds to me like you made the mistakes not me, all i wanted to do was join a ******* corp, so stop acting as if i caused a problem Viktor Raybach > You're not getting me to feel sorry for you after what you pulled, I bought your story once, i'm not buying it again. Now I need to go talk to directorate about this and try and keep my recruiter status! Digitalmare > lol Digitalmare > really bro? Digitalmare > i have no ******* story Digitalmare > i play video games, dot. Digitalmare > you claim to be a business man in real life well i can tell how u run your businesses Digitalmare > if your going to scam me out of my isk Digitalmare > then just say so Digitalmare > im done playing your video game drama mindgames Viktor Raybach > You scammed me, don't try and turn this around! Digitalmare > is this funny to you or something? Digitalmare > dude if i have to ill just post this convo to a director in your corp Digitalmare > so either give me my deposit back or let me know your keeping it Viktor Raybach > I don't have it. I can't give it to you. And we don't return security deposits to scammers anyways! Digitalmare > what did i scam from you? Digitalmare > apparently this is all funny to you Digitalmare > i hope its all worth it to you
for posterity. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10175
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Posted - 2014.02.08 18:42:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:I've quit playing EVE several times, just recently got back into the game and been having fun. Enjoy the 800mil your corp scammed. Honestly it's nothing to me. I make double that per hour irl. Everyone makes mistakes, it's what you learn from them that matters.
"didn't want that isk anyway"
btw our corp didn't scam you, he scammed you, and it's his isk,. not the corp's Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Digitalmare
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.02.08 19:24:00 -
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I don't think anyone cares anymore. You bored bro? |
Davish Krail
69
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:18:00 -
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Digitalmare wrote:I don't think anyone cares anymore. You bored bro?
I care when people slander others with evidence which points out that you are a spy. |
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