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Imawuss
United Atheist League
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Posted - 2011.10.29 08:54:00 -
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Honestly unless you want to throw away isk how can you use it as a glass cannon blaster boat?
Imo this ship will be best used as a sniper and the web bonus and drones will be saved for incoming fast tackle. most likely this ship will be out shinned by the other tier 3 BC's becuase if you use this thing as a blaster boat you have 0 survibality if your target survives the first few volleys. |
Niamo Higate
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:28:00 -
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I will be searching for you on killboards. Specifically i will keep an eye out for when a talos kills you, then continue to chuckle maniacally as i remember what was stated in this post. |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:34:00 -
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without underpants
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:40:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Honestly unless you want to throw away isk how can you use it as a glass cannon blaster boat?
Imo this ship will be best used as a sniper and the web bonus and drones will be saved for incoming fast tackle. most likely this ship will be out shinned by the other tier 3 BC's becuase if you use this thing as a blaster boat you have 0 survibality if your target survives the first few volleys.
With it's web bonus up to 5 you're about 87% speed reduction, this should be enough to hit stuff with rails using shortest range ammo and give you enough distance to shoot stuff at about 45km with MFS's in lows instead of blasters and TE's.
It's just an idea, we can't really think about using this ship with blasters for other purpose than: gank in belts, gank at gates, gank on undocks and probably has glass canon protect for BS fleets thx to it's web even railguns would be able to hit stuff under 20km.
The single advantage I see in this ship fitting type? -smallest sign radius but unfortunately meaning speed/agility reduction thx to armor rigs/mods speed reduction mass addition then to catch something click "MWD" and help everyone and his grandma hit you for 110% dmg thx to your sign radius bigger than an orca... |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
23
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:48:00 -
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Sniper.... until proven othervise |
Twisted Alice
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:54:00 -
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It's a nice looking ship, but with the fittings might look a big heavy at the front. |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
23
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:57:00 -
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Twisted Alice wrote:It's a nice looking ship, but with the fittings might look a big heavy at the front.
It will be fine.... as long it keeps moving backwards....
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non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
126
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Posted - 2011.10.29 09:57:00 -
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I think I'll fly it by having my pod inserted inside it somehow. Oh wait! The title isn't the real question.
Rail's should be okay. Hopefully the boost rail's are getting will help a lot with that. Some of the gallente ships make good close range, glass cannons, even now. Megathron's close range dps can be real nasty. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
230
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:07:00 -
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Imagine yourself tied to the floor completely unable to move. Now imagine me standing over you with a Sledge Hammer. Got that Image yet?
Good now imagine me hitting you with the Hammer over and over again till you are a fine mush.
That's how I am gonna fly this thing and shame on anyone who would use this thing for impure Sniping.
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Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:33:00 -
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Same as all blaster boats, warp to zero, web, destroy.
Not much good for chasing stuff down but thats not really it's job. -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it! Other names: Drenzul (WoT, WoW, Lineage 2, WarH, BloodBowl, BSG, SC2 and lots more)-á |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:33:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Imagine yourself tied to the floor completely unable to move. Now imagine me standing over you with a Sledge Hammer. Got that Image yet?
Good now imagine me hitting you with the Hammer over and over again till you are a fine mush.
That's how I am gonna fly this thing and shame on anyone who would use this thing for impure Sniping.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:36:00 -
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It'll find a place in w-space where ship mass is of import. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
23
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:41:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Imagine yourself tied to the floor completely unable to move. Now imagine me standing over you with a Sledge Hammer. Got that Image yet?
Good now imagine me hitting you with the Hammer over and over again till you are a fine mush.
That's how I am gonna fly this thing and shame on anyone who would use this thing for impure Sniping.
Have you tried warpin to zero in a vigilant... deimos or brutix lately ? You never get a shot off... you are insta jammed. Death are quick tho..... |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
232
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:46:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote: Have you tried warpin to zero in a vigilant... deimos or brutix lately ? You never get a shot off... you are insta jammed. Death are quick tho.....
Everything gets insta jammed when a Falcons. Go complain about ECM somewhere else.
This is about awesome face murder.
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ElQuirko
Boxxed Up Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.10.29 10:48:00 -
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Gonna fly it as a salvager.
Haters gonna hate. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
108
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:04:00 -
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I won't, I'll be flying the Tornado. 10/19 2011 - never forget the 20%
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Caulk H0lster
Kazakh Ministry of Wealth Redistribution
31
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:06:00 -
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Fly it like it's stolen. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
1035
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:16:00 -
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With my eye closed, cause it's fugly.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Bobbith
No Fish EVE Trade Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:21:00 -
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:without underpants
I wanted to say that |
Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
52
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:25:00 -
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"The Talos how will you fly it? "
Properly. |
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Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen
7
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:28:00 -
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Like this......
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
*boom*
aw shiiiit.
ooh, and er 2nd page snipe? I think thats good? |
Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:45:00 -
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With nothing but plates, trimarks and resists to make it last 16 seconds in a fight instead of 8 seconds. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
3
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Posted - 2011.10.29 12:51:00 -
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Jim Pooley wrote:Like this......
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
*boom*
aw shiiiit.
More or less......
Maybe a "lol did you see what I did to that drake?' I there somewhere.
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Spectre80
The Knights Templar Cascade Imminent
17
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Posted - 2011.10.29 13:05:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:Twisted Alice wrote:It's a nice looking ship, but with the fittings might look a big heavy at the front. It will be fine.... as long it keeps moving backwards....
i would think thats not a problem considering gallente french origin
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Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp Flatline.
9
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Posted - 2011.10.29 13:26:00 -
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Spectre80 wrote:Tore Vest wrote:It will be fine.... as long it keeps moving backwards....
i would think thats not a problem considering gallente french origin
Fous le camps et morte*, Caldari pig! Gallente toujours!
Cala
*I mean in that in a nice, non-offensive way. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2011.10.29 14:13:00 -
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Spectre80 wrote:Tore Vest wrote:Twisted Alice wrote:It's a nice looking ship, but with the fittings might look a big heavy at the front. It will be fine.... as long it keeps moving backwards.... i would think thats not a problem considering gallente french origin
So you want a hit with my baguette in ta gueule so you stop saying de la merde??
Fcking roostbeef |
Vmir Gallahasen
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.29 16:56:00 -
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Arthur Frayn wrote:With nothing but plates, trimarks and resists to make it last 16 seconds in a fight instead of 8 seconds. [Talos, Talos fit]
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II Ion Blaster Cannon II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
611 DPS w/o drones, 36.6k EHP vs RF Fusion
[Hurricane, Hurricane fit]
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
549 DPS w/o drones, 48.9k EHP vs Hybrids
The sad bit is even if your supposed glass cannon (with the current stats and bonuses anyway) starts out at point-blank range against a non-moving target AND manages to apply the full paper dps which is almost never the case, you still haven't got a prayer of beating a nanocane in a point blank fight. And if you start out at anything other than point blank, even if you do manage to get into range you're still going to lose. And if the hurricane chooses the absolute worst possible ammo to use against you, your EHP is about even -- you may eke out a win. Barely. Did I mention the nanocane is faster in this configuration? With better range? Better tracking obviously. And two utility slots, great for anti-frigate defenses like neuts.
Even with a couple years worth of Gallente cruiser+ short range uselessness, CCP still manages to implement what I might even dare say is the worst blaster platform yet. It might find some use in a blob to prevent runners from getting back to the gate, but that's all
TL;DR New short range blaster boat sucks at short range. Like every other blaster boat larger than a frigate. I'll probably put light neutrons on mine to surprise the frigates thinking Tier 3 bc will be easy kills |
Cunane Jeran
19
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Posted - 2011.10.29 17:28:00 -
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I'll be flying it with a semi. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:02:00 -
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Cunane Jeran wrote:I'll be flying it with a semi.
Just fit 800mm Autos and make them "WTF" |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
108
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Posted - 2011.10.29 18:23:00 -
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I will warp to you at zero and blow you to hell and back before you know it. Is that a plan? |
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