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Hrett
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:29:00 -
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Songbird wrote:Fit a mega in EFT - with AM neutrons give you 4.5+13(17 is well within a boosted fed navy web), void is 6.8+6.3.
I know what you'll say - fit TE's.
Hell I know one of the popular ships for incursions is a shield vindi with 3 TE , 3 MFS which gives you AM range of 6.4 +24. In pvp however most pilots fit MFS rather than TE.
Besides web range has always been minmatar bonus and has nothing to do with gallente, or gallente tactics (which is to get to kissing distance and make out with hot antimatter).
Thanks for the comments all. Guess I always thought the blaster problem was not their damage, but getting in range to do their damage. With the recently posted tracking buff to blasters, I am even more of that opinion. I think a long web would be more beneficial than a speed decrease increase(?) web.
Going off of memory, Heavy neutrons with Null give about ~25k range with optimal + falloff. With one TE, its around ~30k. A long 25-30k web will allow you to stay in that range better, especially with the new speed and agility buffs. Blasters just dont do any good if you have no defense against being kited. A long web helps more with that than a bonused web. It might actually help the Talos to do some kiting of its own and lower transversal against smaller targets. And we have 25m3 of drones for frigs anyway. ;)
Just an idea. We will see how this shakes out. I like the tracking and PG changes most. |
Ruah Piskonit
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.01 21:05:00 -
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Vmir Gallahasen wrote: I need to be able to win a 1v1, or even 1v2, 1v3 for a ship to be worth my while. Because that's what 90% of the fights I get are, and this ship would have a 90% loss rate with those odds
lol, you are a funny one. |
Angry Onions
Dark Pheonix Technologies
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:26:00 -
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I'm gonna fly it like a shuttle, so I can cruise in style til I get to my Tornado. E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Vmir Gallahasen
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.01 23:18:00 -
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Ruah Piskonit wrote:Vmir Gallahasen wrote: I need to be able to win a 1v1, or even 1v2, 1v3 for a ship to be worth my while. Because that's what 90% of the fights I get are, and this ship would have a 90% loss rate with those odds
lol, you are a funny one. How so? Most players are going to run for it in a 1v1 even fight, anything you can do to make an engagement more likely (such as perception of superior ships/numbers) can slide a 30% chance 1 bc engages you to a 90% chance 2bc or 1bc + support will. I'm not necessarily talking vs multiple bc either, just multiple enemy players
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Ruah Piskonit
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.02 02:46:00 -
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Vmir Gallahasen wrote:Ruah Piskonit wrote:Vmir Gallahasen wrote: I need to be able to win a 1v1, or even 1v2, 1v3 for a ship to be worth my while. Because that's what 90% of the fights I get are, and this ship would have a 90% loss rate with those odds
lol, you are a funny one. How so? Most players are going to run for it in a 1v1 even fight, anything you can do to make an engagement more likely (such as perception of superior ships/numbers) can slide a 30% chance 1 bc engages you to a 90% chance 2bc or 1bc + support will. I'm not necessarily talking vs multiple bc either, just multiple enemy players
yah, but thats the same for every ship except the ones that don't shoot back. |
Vmir Gallahasen
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.02 03:06:00 -
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Right, it's the same for any engagement. Which is why you want to be out of web/scram range, have a good tank/EHP, or have utility slots to even the odds/escape or else face annihilation when the blob comes. The Talos has none of these things. That's kind of my point. It's going to be a poor choice solo compared to tornado, it's going to be terrible in fleets for reasons I surely don't need to explain, and the small slice of engagements it can be useful in where there's only a handful of ships on either side it's going to have the problem of being relatively slow, paper thin, and stuck in the middle of any furball trying to do its job. Hi2primary
Does that make more sense now? |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.11.02 10:04:00 -
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I will fly it with an absolutely gank fit without any real tank to speak of, other than a remote rep to rep up after the kill. No-no expensive trimarks, no bloody plates to slow me down. Come on, it will be cheap and insurable.
L: tracking enhancers, magfields, maybe a suitcase too M: tracking computer, mwd, point, web(s) H: big guns and a remote rep R: scanres and damage rigs D: warriors
Designed to be a glasscannon, I will fly it like one. If the ship screams yarrrr, why tune it down to whisper? Grow some balls and fly it like someone who meant to fight even if you eventually pick the short straw. |
Nyla Skin
Pew Pew Corp Behold.
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Posted - 2011.11.02 10:06:00 -
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Imawuss wrote:Honestly unless you want to throw away isk how can you use it as a glass cannon blaster boat?
This concept was dead on arrival.
Fit arties on it and use it as nanoed sniper.. Theres a high chance that the minmatar will do better in that role though.. In that case I guess it would make an ok miner. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.02 11:03:00 -
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The Talos(and possibly Naga) will be incredibly good at one activity.
Ninjaing customs offices. |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.02 11:15:00 -
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Shivus Tao wrote:The Talos(and possibly Naga) will be incredibly good at one activity.
Ship spinning without undocking them.
Fixed.
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