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nooooby
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: nooooby on 01/12/2005 15:54:00 I have tried to make this post as nuetral as possible, and may update it if pertinent facts surface and it seems useful, not just a flame-thread.
ASCN and G both have different versions of why G invaded Feythabolis. ASCN says that it was a cowardly move since G were set to positive standing and had travel rights and G says they did so as a pre-emptive strike. It does not matter since it is done.
What matters is what has occurred since then. G had a station they took (rather quickly) from SA that was only 2 jumps from a core ASCN system, AZN-D2. This station was heavily stocked and supplied for the invasion, and aptly named "Spearhead".
However, apart from the initial invasion and a totally lagged out fleet battle (both sides admit it was impossible to tell who would have won with the multi-minute lag), G has not seemed to make any progress. G claims they are winning, as they are killing many more ships, ASCN says they are winning because they have not lost any space.
For weeks the stalemate has continued, almost exclusively in the AZN system. Then yesterday, G made an interesting move. Contrary to all of their claims of military dominance, and being a PvP alliance, they used the controvertial POS-rush tactic.
In an impressive display of logistics, G deployed 35 small POS in AZN. ASCN proceeded to drop the POS into reinforced mode and a large fleet battle ensued. Two ISD reporters were on hand to witness and verify the conflict. From my interviews on the scene both agreed it was the first fleet battle with minimum lag. It was a hard-fought battle and raged for over an hour with fairly even numbers.
At the end of the battle ASCN held the field and collected loot. Supposedly, at least 35 G Battleships were destroyed, ASCN losses unknown (can someone from these alliances verify?).
But the very interesting thing is that ASCN then continued dropping POS into reinforced mode, and if you look at the map you will see that in AZN, ASCN is the sovereign.
So, you decide, did G win or lose?
You may make speculation about the war and progress (or lack therof) to date, but please do not bring up topics which are already heavily covered in other threads.
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:46:00 -
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Hi alt!
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Francesca Dell'Agio
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:48:00 -
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Hi alt! |
Norman B
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:50:00 -
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Hi alt!
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:51:00 -
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sig. ....
ps. POST WITH YOUR MAIN
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:51:00 -
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zOMG ALT SPAM! -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |
DeMoN KinG
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:52:00 -
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My alt is t3h ub3r
hi btw comrades
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Jin'Roh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:52:00 -
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hi alt and your number are wrong.
jin
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Norman B
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:53:00 -
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While I am here can I just say hello to my mom. Hi Mom
Thanks.
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Taurequis
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:53:00 -
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Bonjour Alt, |
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Cdr Foxbat
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Cdr Foxbat on 01/12/2005 15:54:03 Hello alt - were you in the shuttle 380km away - or are you just too cowardly to admit to being on one of the sides........
Edit: Removed sensible content - alts dont deserve it.
Ping
Originally by: Blind Watchmaker
Originally by: Gong Guess Goliaths last words were: 'That was lame !'
Actually they were "OMG lag!"
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:54:00 -
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"From my interviews on the scene both agreed it was the first fleet battle with minimum lag. It was a hard-fought battle and raged for over an hour with fairly even numbers."
Oohhhh... there's a node in EVE that's strong enough to allow for a lag-less fleet battles...
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the last in AZN is a stinky egg \o/
:s
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:55:00 -
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I found it an interesting post - can we get anything 'official'? ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Tamneah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:55:00 -
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Hello I am an alt too o/
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EB Xile
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: EB Xile on 01/12/2005 15:59:46
Originally by: j0sephine [i]
the last in AZN is a stinky egg \o/
:s
LOL, what the heck does that mean??
I was there for the whole thing and must admit it was a good fight. Props to Femme Extrema, the uber-jamming scorp pilot. Props to the G guys who stayed up late to fight for their zergPOS.
First truly enjoyable fleet battle in awhile because we were actually allowed to fight each other and not the lag.
I do not know the numbers.
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oidalia
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: oidalia on 01/12/2005 15:59:18
Originally by: Avon I found it an interesting post - can we get anything 'official'?
afaik G was outnumbered and ASCN even had 4 dreads in the battle and G still had a 2:1 kill/lose ratio (and this happened all in the middle of the night for euro ppl).
Btw sov doesnt change after one DT.
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Risiru
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Risiru on 01/12/2005 16:02:15 Well not commenting on your "facts" let's just say they are funky :).
Seems like some ASCN (sorry Gob that I assume it's an ASCN alt) still don't get the strategie involved. Well thats awesome and probably leads to more fun for us :)
I can only comment for myself but I don't regret a little bit that I only got 3 and ahalf hours sleep last night and I sure my mates fell the same way (and I know at least some ASCN think it was awesome last night too). I already envy them for tonight because I won't be able to make it.
PS: I have 10 gb of fraps so expect a movie but it will take a while.
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Netto
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: oidalia Edited by: oidalia on 01/12/2005 15:59:18
Originally by: Avon I found it an interesting post - can we get anything 'official'?
afaik G was outnumbered and ASCN even had 4 dreads in the battle and G still had a 2:1 kill/lose ratio (and this happened all in the middle of the night for euro ppl).
Btw sov doesnt change after one DT.
So you're saying ASCN brought out dreads in the fleet battle?
I haven't looked at the numbers and I probably won't as I don't really care, but the 4 dread thing is pretty hysterical. All in all, was a fun night and I really think that's what is most important. I think a few on both sides tend to lose site on that from time to time but it can only be expected. I only wish I could be at home right now and not here, being a forum ****, at work.
Netto
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arjun
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: arjun on 01/12/2005 16:08:14 for me it was the best battle ever in my more than 2 jears of eve time. thanx to all involved. edit for netto: there were 1 moros, 2 revelation and 1 nagelfar in the battle for at least 30 minutes.
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Deidranna on 01/12/2005 16:10:20 ah well... hi alt... but... one of the best fight ever, if not the best uzuz lots of reds, few blues 3 dreads ~160 ships destroyed
3+ hours shooting shooting shooting and damn late -.-
kudos to all involved
deidranna
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:09:00 -
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"LOL, what the heck does that mean??"
Sorry, 'tis just when i read "fleet battle and there was hardly any lag", got this mental image of PvPers from all over EVE and every possible alliance rushing to the said system, so they can finally experience the same thing... ^^;
(and obviously lagging the heck out of it in the end, but that's another story...
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raistalin
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: oidalia Edited by: oidalia on 01/12/2005 15:59:18
Originally by: Avon I found it an interesting post - can we get anything 'official'?
Btw sov doesnt change after one DT.
Exactly. Alty should note this.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shimpu on 01/12/2005 16:12:48 I was there for 30 minutes too last night. All I have seen in AZN was a safespotted ASCN fleet, G's fleet camping a gate and ASCN writing "rabble! rabble!" in local... Then two ISD peeps came into the system and ASCN started to behave ^^
EDIT: Looks like I missed the best part :/
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu I was there for 30 minutes too last night. All I have seen in AZN was a safespotted ASCN fleet, G's fleet camping a gate with a bigger fleet and ASCN writing "rabble! rabble!" in local... Then two ISD peeps came into the system and ASCN started to behave ^^
they rabble rabble a lot -.- was not nice
deidranna
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:15:00 -
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*Just woke up*
Uh I was there last night and I can verify that htere was a fleet battle, heavy losses where sustain on both sides... MUCH fun was had on both sides (at least according to the OMG BEST FLEET BATTLE IVE EVER BEEN IN chat in local).
The important thing is that I got in a fleet battle and a lot of us had a lot of fun.
Oh and can we lock this post.
*snip* That's not very appropriate. - Teblin |
Aturo Rejin
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:17:00 -
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/me wonders whos alt it is this time...
anyway, nice fight with very little lag (atleast for me), unfortunately someone in the [G] fleet decided to make me primary after like 5-10mins, so I cannot say I had that much fun I was able to get 6 hours sleep tho instead of staying longer for fight/POS pounding.
Will there be more "RABBLE" in local tonight?
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Fitz Chivalry
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 01/12/2005 16:19:14 I couldnt believe it, the first time in months I decide to use a BS rather than a ceptor, cruiser or AF and I spend about 1.5 hours getting from 68ft to AZN, spent another 1.5 hours in AZN waiting for something to happen, spent an hour shooting a POS, sat at the TRO gate wiating for G to engage, didnt look like it was going to happen so finally gave up about 00.30am and left, get back to 68ft and dock and it all kicks off.
I hope we did use the Dreads in the fleet battle that would be cool - I would much rather have a dread on my deathmail than the usual collection of ceptors or frigates that is all you ever seem to get these days.
Anyways, I look forward to shooting more of you later and please dont target me as my insurance has expired.
With many thanks.
Edit: The "rabble rabble" thing was to drown out all the pointless stuff that is always appearing in local from our guests like "lets log off half our fleet then you might engage us" that sort of thing - rather than reply in kind we thought we would just have a little fun with them.
You will notice that we stopped rabbling and the G/IRON comments (I wouldnt go so far as to call it smack as it wasnt especially bad) stopped also so please present the whole picture mkay.
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Alt Man
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:18:00 -
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Hi Alt!!
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reaTh
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: reaTh on 01/12/2005 16:21:24 hi alt |
slothe
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Posted - 2005.12.01 16:24:00 -
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interesting post even tho clearly ascn alt.
as to your question who lost it seems that both sides lost something.
but most importantly all sides are having fun and its that which matters.
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