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Bloody Mary Firetail
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.17 21:52:00 -
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This system is so useless it's almost comical. Random people are able to place pointless bounties on others for no reason and all it does is make the game mechanic a useless tool for bored people that have nothing better to do in the game. Is there anything in the works to fix this? |
Capt Tenguru10
Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities
953
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:00:00 -
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whats a bounty? is this a new feature? http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif |
Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate Hashashin Cartel
379
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:03:00 -
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It's improved over what it used to be.
What exactly do you find useless about it and how would you like it to be implemented?
Edit: Or are you mad because someone placed a bounty on you? I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |
Sex Slave Girl
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:03:00 -
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It's a clever disguised isk sink |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
546
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:10:00 -
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I'm happy with the bounty system. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14927
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:11:00 -
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Bloody Mary Firetail wrote:This system is so useless it's almost comical. Random people are able to place pointless bounties on others for no reason and all it does is make the game mechanic a useless tool for bored people that have nothing better to do in the game. Is there anything in the works to fix this? Fix what? You just showed that there is a point to itGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Black Dranzer
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:16:00 -
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What annoys me is how rare buyable kill rights are. But I guess assassins are implicitly criminals. Walking in Stations as a Social Hub: Business vs Pleasure in Incarna |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
467
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:31:00 -
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The bounty system is fine (except not being able to bounty certain people). It took CCP long enough to fix it. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
552
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:37:00 -
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Bloody Mary Firetail wrote:This system is so useless it's almost comical. Random people are able to place pointless bounties on others for no reason and all it does is make the game mechanic a useless tool for bored people that have nothing better to do in the game. Is there anything in the works to fix this?
Did someone leave a bounty on you or a friend? Bounties are nothing to be afraid of. Look at mine- I undock and fly around just fine. But unlike criminals, my bounty is actually mostly tips from clients whom I've asked to bounty me if they were satisfied with my services. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1098
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:42:00 -
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Bounties are just a small bonus for PvP activities. They're not worth hunting individual targets for. Oh god. |
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Bloody Mary Firetail
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.18 02:41:00 -
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At least raise the minimum amount to a mil. That would make more sense and be a bit more towards the rewarding side. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
558
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Posted - 2013.06.18 03:26:00 -
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Bloody Mary Firetail wrote:At least raise the minimum amount to a mil. That would make more sense and be a bit more towards the rewarding side.
The last time I lost a ship, the payout was only 11m of bounty. Would that really get you excited? I hope not. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
134
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Posted - 2013.06.18 03:29:00 -
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Lols.... ok ok... people maybe you like to show off on how you dont die but dont you get this is the fun of it? go get killed in a low cost ship like a dessy or T2 frigate and you wont have any other bounty i think it was a secret plan to make carebears pvp a little bit |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1337
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:11:00 -
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Bloody Mary Firetail wrote:This system is so useless it's almost comical. Random people are able to place pointless bounties on others for no reason and all it does is make the game mechanic a useless tool for bored people that have nothing better to do in the game. Is there anything in the works to fix this? If it's useless it seems strange that you're complaining that other people keep using it too much in ways you don't like.
Please complain about legitimate problems with the bounty system, rather than just whining because you got a bounty put on you because you're a moron with a big mouth who likes to sound off in local all day and feels entitled to not meet any kind of consequence. |
Digital Messiah
Firesworn Incorporated Firesworn Nation
319
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:58:00 -
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The bounty system is CCP's way of rewarding players who pvp. If you keep your efficiency high enough you can pay off your pvp ship and costs thanks to the isk sink of bounties. People who place bounties on other people should knowingly only do so for the idea of promoting less costly pvp. Something clever |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1364
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Posted - 2013.06.18 04:59:00 -
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Still better than the previous system. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3191
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Posted - 2013.06.18 05:02:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Still better than the previous system.
I quite liked the previous system even though it was a broken mechanic. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS strain SELKURK
4
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Posted - 2013.06.18 06:41:00 -
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Someone once asked in the 'help' channel how to place a bounty on someone that had just ganked their ship.
I told them that whomever ganked their ship owned them and by wasting ISK putting a bounty on that person's head they were essentially owning themselves a second time.
The bounty system should be renamed "ISK Sink" or "***** and Giggles" ,so as to more accurately reflect its general utility. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10183
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Posted - 2013.06.18 08:35:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Someone once asked in the 'help' channel how to place a bounty on someone that had just ganked their ship.
I told them that whomever ganked their ship owned them and by wasting ISK putting a bounty on that person's head they were essentially owning themselves a second time.
The bounty system should be renamed "ISK Sink" or "***** and Giggles" ,so as to more accurately reflect its general utility.
Please do explain
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Shock
Interim Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.06.18 09:10:00 -
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The only thing that needs to be updated is that people with outstanding kill rights should be allowed to be attacked in high-sec by anyone in return for a suspect flag for the attacker.
The bounty system with only the victim having the kill rights doesn't work, since they are usually not able to act upon it. |
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Linna Baresi
10
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Posted - 2013.06.18 09:41:00 -
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I, completely new to EVE, have had a bounty on me since my 7th day of play, just for asking a question when people were talking about bounties in chat. Fortunately, an experienced player was kind enough to explain what (not) to expect. A good thing too, because a few days later I ran into another new player, 1 day old, who'd completely freaked out because he had a 100K bounty placed on him, and I was able to relay what I'd been told and (I hope) calm him down.
That this could even happen, baffles me. However harsh a PVP game may be - and I've played plenty - generally, new people are given a chance to get their feet wet before being dragged into the deep. It kinda helps if you don't scare them off right away.
So yeah, I think the bounty system in EVE needs work. I could understand it if flying specific types of ship or participating in specific activities automatically made you a legitimate kill with a bounty - new character or not. I'm not so sure I understand the logic of allowing anyone to place a bounty on anyone, with or without reason, and then having a bounty payout system that sounds like a bit of a bad joke.
Member of <Fated> since 2003 fated.europefreeforum.com |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
344
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Posted - 2013.06.18 09:48:00 -
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Linna Baresi wrote:I, completely new to EVE, have had a bounty on me since my 7th day of play, just for asking a question when people were talking about bounties in chat. Fortunately, an experienced player was kind enough to explain what (not) to expect. A good thing too, because a few days later I ran into another new player, 1 day old, who'd completely freaked out because he had a 100K bounty placed on him, and I was able to relay what I'd been told and (I hope) calm him down.
That this could even happen, baffles me. However harsh a PVP game may be - and I've played plenty - generally, new people are given a chance to get their feet wet before being dragged into the deep. It kinda helps if you don't scare them off right away.
So yeah, I think the bounty system in EVE needs work. I could understand it if flying specific types of ship or participating in specific activities automatically made you a legitimate kill with a bounty - new character or not. I'm not so sure I understand the logic of allowing anyone to place a bounty on anyone, with or without reason, and then having a bounty payout system that sounds like a bit of a bad joke.
Simply, the bounty system isn't dependant on morals, good vs. bad, anything. It's just a public statement that someone is offering ISK to take you out.
Might be a bounty on a "bad guy" for revenge. Might be a bounty on a "Good guy" for messing with the bad dudes work Might just be a psycho who wants to make the world burn.
All the above are valid reasons. Welcome to EVE. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
526
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Posted - 2013.06.18 10:02:00 -
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The "fix" is simple OP:
1. Take pride in your bounty and amass as much as possible. Be sad when you lose in PVP. 2. Blow up ships controllably to lower it's value. Be happy when you lose in PVP.
See? Just lose in PVP if you want to get rid of the bounty. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1520
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Posted - 2013.06.18 11:43:00 -
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Bounty system works fine as far as I'm concerned. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS strain SELKURK
4
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:07:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Someone once asked in the 'help' channel how to place a bounty on someone that had just ganked their ship.
I told them that whomever ganked their ship owned them and by wasting ISK putting a bounty on that person's head they were essentially owning themselves a second time.
The bounty system should be renamed "ISK Sink" or "***** and Giggles" ,so as to more accurately reflect its general utility. Please do explain
Place a bounty on the head of your ganker doesn't make someone want to kill them for the bounty because the bounty payout is so low = 'ISK Sink"
Placing bounties on people randomly because you have enough ISK to burn = "***** and Giggles" |
Logan Brewster
Personal Future Confectioners
9
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:20:00 -
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Bounty system Sov War Decs [...]
System ok, players turn system into travesty = not CCPs fault
Damn funny, though.
CCP can change the game, but not the players. |
Cipher7
Colelie Victims Relief Fund
99
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Posted - 2013.06.18 17:27:00 -
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Linna Baresi wrote:I, completely new to EVE, have had a bounty on me since my 7th day of play, just for asking a question when people were talking about bounties in chat. Fortunately, an experienced player was kind enough to explain what (not) to expect. A good thing too, because a few days later I ran into another new player, 1 day old, who'd completely freaked out because he had a 100K bounty placed on him, and I was able to relay what I'd been told and (I hope) calm him down.
That this could even happen, baffles me. However harsh a PVP game may be - and I've played plenty - generally, new people are given a chance to get their feet wet before being dragged into the deep. It kinda helps if you don't scare them off right away.
So yeah, I think the bounty system in EVE needs work. I could understand it if flying specific types of ship or participating in specific activities automatically made you a legitimate kill with a bounty - new character or not. I'm not so sure I understand the logic of allowing anyone to place a bounty on anyone, with or without reason, and then having a bounty payout system that sounds like a bit of a bad joke.
You have nothing to worry about, play the game normally. |
Mike Azariah
Gallente Benevolence Association
383
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Posted - 2013.06.18 20:27:00 -
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Play the game normally, yup. Best advice you can give to someone with a bounty. If they were gonna kill you, the bounty is just a bonus, not the reason they will use to shoot.
I should know.
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4279
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Posted - 2013.06.18 20:42:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Malcanis wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Someone once asked in the 'help' channel how to place a bounty on someone that had just ganked their ship.
I told them that whomever ganked their ship owned them and by wasting ISK putting a bounty on that person's head they were essentially owning themselves a second time.
The bounty system should be renamed "ISK Sink" or "***** and Giggles" ,so as to more accurately reflect its general utility. Please do explain Place a bounty on the head of your ganker doesn't make someone want to kill them for the bounty because the bounty payout is so low = 'ISK Sink" Placing bounties on people randomly because you have enough ISK to burn = "***** and Giggles" The payout is not necessarily low, it depends on the size of the bounty and what they are flying at the time. However it does make it quite likely that the bounty will be able to be collected many times.
Combine that with the kill right (which you can sell or give away freely), and you can certainly make life more interesting for the target. Some do bring out those characters only to suicide gank, and they likely won't be overly affected, but others make the mistake of trying to do other things with those characters.
By the way, spreading discord via indiscriminate bounty placing is a perfectly good reason to do so. The only thing we need to bring a bit more balance to the system is for Incarna to be developed to the point where you can put a bullet in the brain of those that do so from the safety of a station and never leave. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
181
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Posted - 2013.06.18 21:08:00 -
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The bounty system is made to let off some steam and pay for ammunition. The only thing they need to do is remove the kill right system or make kill rights cost nothing. There are far too many killrights being put up by greedy "victims" who are generally making people pay for targets that are killable anyway because of sec status. |
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