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Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:33:00 -
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inb4 nullbears happy tears hotdrop, how long do you think tritanium/pyerite prices would stay above 0.5 ISK after Odyssey? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13850
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:36:00 -
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About a decade or so. Maybe two. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Adam Junior
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:37:00 -
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no it wasn't |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:37:00 -
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Your title is misleading.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:38:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:inb4 nullbears happy tears hotdrop, how long do you think tritanium/pyerite prices would stay above 0.5 ISK after Odyssey?
Well, we're hisec. We're here to be nerfed. Should not be news.
My guess is that prices will drop some 30%, back to where they were before drone alloys were removed. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4744
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:39:00 -
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You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:40:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? Stuff which takes more than ore is not gonna drop, and whoever considered mining as a source of things now must go null or die. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4744
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:42:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? Stuff which takes more than ore is not gonna drop, and whoever considered mining as a source of things now must go null or die. That's not true at all. Stop being alarmist. Highsec miners will be just fine. Highsec ice miners stand to make pretty good profits. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:43:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? You do know that when the price of ore drops, bounties don't? Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:44:00 -
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Some people will always mine. No price change will alter that.
Ice mining could get interesting though. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4744
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? You do know that when the price of ore drops, bounties don't? Of course I do. Not sure what your point is, unless you're implying something about the increased purchasing power of ratting or mission running. |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:45:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? Stuff which takes more than ore is not gonna drop, and whoever considered mining as a source of things now must go null or die. That's not true at all. Stop being alarmist. Highsec miners will be just fine. Highsec ice miners stand to make pretty good profits. That's not true at all. Stop being ignorant. Hisec miners are gonna go extinct. Highsec ice fields are gonna stop existing, as people are gonna mine them dry in 15 minutes and poof, no ice for 4 hours. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:49:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that when ore prices drop, so does the cost of a whole bunch of other stuff? Stuff which takes more than ore is not gonna drop, and whoever considered mining as a source of things now must go null or die. That's not true at all. Stop being alarmist. Highsec miners will be just fine. Highsec ice miners stand to make pretty good profits. That's not true at all. Stop being ignorant. Hisec miners are gonna go extinct. Highsec ice fields are gonna stop existing, as people are gonna mine them dry in 15 minutes and poof, no ice for 4 hours.
Oehhhh I see your crystalbal went into overdrive. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
707
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:51:00 -
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Last week CCP banned 99% of players for using EVEMon, this week they are making all high-sec miners go extinct (70% of the playerbase, according to one reliable source). Wow, CCP... No wonder OP is so depressed. Oh god. |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:53:00 -
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I just had an idea.
Gotta make the "best eulogy for hisec mining" contest. Whoever wins can have all my (about-to-become-worthless) tritanium. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4744
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:56:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:That's not true at all. Stop being ignorant. Hisec miners are gonna go extinct. Highsec ice fields are gonna stop existing, as people are gonna mine them dry in 15 minutes and poof, no ice for 4 hours. And you base this on what, exactly?
Highsec miners are going to go extinct based on some probably minor decrease in profitability that they didn't even have before the drone loot nerf anyway? Highsec ice fields becoming scarcer somehow wouldn't equate to a large boost in the cost of ice which would entice players even more to seek out ice systems and mine them for themselves?
As always pubbies don't look at the big picture. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1464
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:57:00 -
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There is only one good use for a crystal ball: To be put into a sock and smack someone over the head with it. Sovereignty and Population Moulds and water for the sandbox. |
Ari Laveran
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.27 14:59:00 -
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*Having trouble discerning if OP is trolling or not. |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:That's not true at all. Stop being ignorant. Hisec miners are gonna go extinct. Highsec ice fields are gonna stop existing, as people are gonna mine them dry in 15 minutes and poof, no ice for 4 hours. And you base this on what, exactly? Highsec miners are going to go extinct based on some probably minor decrease in profitability that they didn't even have before the drone loot nerf anyway? Highsec ice fields becoming scarcer somehow wouldn't equate to a large boost in the cost of ice which would entice players even more to seek out ice systems and mine them for themselves? As always pubbies don't look at the big picture.
90% is minor decrease in profitability. Basically, not worh noting. haha. Ice fields are gone for good, dear sir, read the changes more carefully, please, as "seeking" has nothing to do with it now. |
Acac Sunflyier
FLA5HY RED
570
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:00:00 -
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You know there's still ice, right? CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:01:00 -
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i'm sorry, in what way did they break mining?
oh right, they didn't. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:01:00 -
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Is this a bad thing? In what sense?
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:03:00 -
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All 12 people in the CFC who mine are ecstatic about this change. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:05:00 -
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Bolow Santosi wrote:All 12 people in the CFC who mine are ecstatic about this change.
if you let me join i'll be the 13th excited member! |
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:08:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: That's not true at all. Stop being alarmist. Highsec miners will be just fine. Highsec ice miners stand to make pretty good profits.
Actually, I think that with this change, regular High-Sec miners will get a boost as well, not just the Ice-miners. I mean, gravimetric sites are gone: so all these specific ore asteroid fields are going to come up as anomalies. Although the low-sec ore will appear in high-sec at the same rate it does now, it does provide high-sec miners an easier way to find it: simply use the built-in scan to find them.
The only downside for miners? The price for Tritanium, Pyerite, and Mexallon will probably drop. But the price for the low-sec ore will rise. Not sure if its going to balance each other out, but it's not all bad.
Except of course....the fact that you're now never safe as a miner and need to... dare I say it... tank your mining vessel?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4745
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:09:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:90% is minor decrease in profitability. Basically, not worh noting. haha. Holy ****, 90%? If I didn't have more than four working brain cells I wouldn't have been able to tell that you had pulled that out of your ass.
Basil Pupkin wrote:Ice fields are gone for good, dear sir, read the changes more carefully, please, as "seeking" has nothing to do with it now. Maybe you should read the changes more carefully. How would seeking not have anything to do with it? Going around systems that spawn ice belts looking for one that currently has a spawn is not seeking? |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:12:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:90% is minor decrease in profitability. Basically, not worh noting. haha. Holy ****, 90%? If I didn't have more than four working brain cells I wouldn't have been able to tell that you had pulled that out of your ass. That is an optimistic lookup. Realistic one is that mining dies completely in hisec.
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote:Ice fields are gone for good, dear sir, read the changes more carefully, please, as "seeking" has nothing to do with it now. Maybe you should read the changes more carefully. How would seeking not have anything to do with it? Going around systems that spawn ice belts looking for one that currently has a spawn is not seeking? And all of them are going to be camped for good. Unless you manage to camp one, hurr durr no ice for you. It has a lot more camping than seeking, dear sir. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:17:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Realistic one is that mining dies completely in hisec.
realistic.
i'm not sure that word means what you think it means. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1268
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:17:00 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:That is an optimistic lookup. Realistic one is that mining dies completely in hisec.
James34234234234, how the heck are ya?
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Basil Pupkin
Why So Platypus
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:17:00 -
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Singulis Pacifica wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: That's not true at all. Stop being alarmist. Highsec miners will be just fine. Highsec ice miners stand to make pretty good profits.
Actually, I think that with this change, regular High-Sec miners will get a boost as well, not just the Ice-miners. I mean, gravimetric sites are gone: so all these specific ore asteroid fields are going to come up as anomalies. Although the low-sec ore will appear in high-sec at the same rate it does now, it does provide high-sec miners an easier way to find it: simply use the built-in scan to find them. I were able to find gravimetric sites before, now everyone is. How is that a buff again? Not to mention one simple point - 99% of hisec gravimetrics are plain useless even now, and buffed ores are not available in any of them. Large Hedbergite was the only one to keep a mining OP busy for more than 30 minutes, and Hedbergite is not getting a buff.
Singulis Pacifica wrote:The only downside for miners? The price for Tritanium, Pyerite, and Mexallon will probably drop. But the price for the low-sec ore will rise. Not sure if its going to balance each other out, but it's not all bad.
Except of course....the fact that you're now never safe as a miner and need to... dare I say it... tank your mining vessel?
Safety is unaffected in hisec. Profitability is no longer an issue too, hehe. Tanked mining vessels will only make you die slower on lowsec. Nullsec is the safest and now the only viable path for miner. |
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