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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:27:00 -
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Not happy with the thorax. With an 800 plate I can fit only IONs with a 1600 plate I cant even fit electrons without fitting mods. On the shield side it barely fits with the lack of cpu. looks like you will not have tank or gank on this ship at the moment.
Stabber looks awesome though it is soo soo much faster than the other three may be kinda imbalanced. If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:39:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Wivabel wrote:Not happy with the thorax. With an 800 plate I can fit only IONs with a 1600 plate I cant even fit electrons without fitting mods. On the shield side it barely fits with the lack of cpu. looks like you will not have tank or gank on this ship at the moment.
Stabber looks awesome though it is soo soo much faster than the other three may be kinda imbalanced. Did you take into account the 25% engineering bonus to PG and the 25% electronics bonus to cpu, as well as weapon upgrades and AWU?
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Wivabel
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Posted - 2012.09.18 12:45:00 -
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Connall Tara wrote:wivabel:
[Thorax, New Setup 1] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
this is now... I think we'll be fine with the new layout with 30 extra cpu for MOAR WEBBING! considering the overall preformance the single PG rig isn't exactly a crippling weakness ^_^
it is dumb to need a fitting mod to fit the smallest guns
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:15:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:Wivabel wrote: it is dumb to need a fitting mod to fit the smallest guns
Not when you are fitting a 1600mm plate designed for battleships and a MicroWarpDrive on top of those 5 medium sized guns... Back in the days you would have to use small frigate guns if you wanted a 1600mm plate.
Sure but in the current meta 800 plates are laughable. ~28000 ehp just is not enough when your looking at 50000+ EHP battlecruisers.
the shield fit for the rax looks ok and I am thinking that CCP may be angling towards it for the thorax. If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:34:00 -
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Caracalal is going to be nice with hams and te/bcs + no more penalties to sig or speed on t2 ammo. If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:43:00 -
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yes accept the fact that its 1600 plate or go home. Balance around this or give us a good reason to use a damn 800. If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 12:51:00 -
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Just to help those of you out who would like to see the stats of the new thorax fit up a navy exequror. It is damn close to the proposed rax.
rail thorax looks to be a good option. I am starting to get excited.
CCP fix the penalties on rigs so I can still armor tank this without the massive penalties to speed.
make each level of rigging skill reduce the negative effects by 20%. It will take training time for us to get the full benefit. Come on doooooo it you know you want to.
Armor will still be slower than shield because of skills/plates but it will not be the huge gap that it is now that armor rarely can recover from. If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:54:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:MIrple wrote: I am agreeing with you there have been numerous times when people say you cant join cause that ship cant fit a 1600 plate. This needs to be changed. Now maybe 800 need a boost to HP I'm not sure but 1600 works well on BS so I don't think they need to be changed.
A small HP boost would be good, right now they get a very anemic 2400 HP T2 with severe mass penalties. If their HP was driven up to say 2800-3000 for T2 that would put them into the realm of viable on ships that currently need an ACR but no longer would. The excess fitting allowing a combination of higher guns and a 3rd Trimark giving them a respectable middle. Still would not make them good though, lowering the mass of 800mm's to a static 137500o like Meta 4's get and changing Armor Rig Penalties or removing them would. The end result would be reasonable HP buffers around 30-35k EHP with speed and Dmg making up the difference while being slower then Shield Ships they would have a good mix of tank, tackle and Dmg. But that is just my take on it. I don't know, I always imagined buffer tankers as slow and clumsy and lifting those penalties is something I don't agree with. Active tank on the other hand really needs a rework. Lifting rig penalties for it and making it plain better than it is now is the way to go I think. slow buffer without cap reliance vs fast active with cap reliance Both options should be viable ( just with different setups ) But that is just my take on it.
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Anger Management.
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:38:00 -
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Meta-gaming in a balance thread, for shame........
Dear CCP-Claus/Fozzie
Please give me a Thorax with all the things. Make it like a space shark with LaZoRs.
Ok thanks Bye.
With space-man love Wiv? If you like to pew small gang style check us out.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.10.31 12:12:00 -
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TLDR: increase cap regen on the attack cruisers if you want them to be any good.
Like others before me have said the cap on these ships is to weak. I was flying a kitey shield thorax on the test server and it was gimped by capacitor issues. These ships need the cap regen rate increased.
When flying fast low tank kitey ships you need to burn around and get into a good position to engage hostiles. I was often at about 30% cap by the time I activated my point and guns.
I also tested out an armor thorax that did ok since i was able to fit a cap booster. Though just flying around I was going through cap boosters like crazy. This basicly makes fitting a cap booster almost mandatory.
Otherwise the ships themselves seem pretty good we just need the cap to be able to fly them the way their role (attack Cruiser) suggests. To be a part of future EVE intrigue check us out. Sov in the south. Small gang pew is what we do when we not defending lovely space.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.10.31 12:51:00 -
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Spugg Galdon wrote:I was under the impression that MWD's were supposed to be used in short bursts not constantly burning them. Using a MWD constantly in order to kite is not really their inteded use. That's a byproduct of tactics and fits from the days of olde.
I think people are going to have to adapt or die. I'm sure there are modules and rigs and implants that can assist in the way you wish to fly your ship. But that means you will have to compromise something. Oh the shock. The horror. The horror
By choosing to fly an attack cruiser you have already sacrificed tank for speed that speed is mainly dependant on the ability to use a microwarpdrive. If you cannot reliably use a microwarpdrive then you have traded tank for nothing. If the ships are not fast then why fly them. I am not saying that you should be able to perma run a microwarpdrive forever but the time does need to be icreased especially on the ships that also need cap for guns. Maybe around 4 minutes would be ok. To be a part of future EVE intrigue check us out. Sov in the south. Small gang pew is what we do when we not defending lovely space.-á
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Wivabel
Exanimo Inc Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2012.11.07 15:37:00 -
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Jason Sirober wrote:Gangname Style wrote: Any missile boat or even a thorax will make short work of that ship.
Esp since blasters are now wtfrange with null.
Please do post a 18km Null-toting blaster fit Thorax. I'm dying to see that.
Yay for alliance bro post.
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