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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.07 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Originally by: Jasdemi
Another angry vet!
Another angry ADHD kid...
I'm a vet, does that make me angry?
Yes, you vets are grumpy old vets who complain about everything.
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Originally by: Jasdemi
Another angry vet!
Another angry ADHD kid...
I'm a vet, does that make me angry?
Yes, you vets are grumpy old vets who complain about everything.
Like, learning skills?
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:38:00 -
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Why is it that the mods have closed every other rumor thread except this one????
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Like, learning skills?
Yeah. Although the vets who maxed their learnings are the real winners, they still complain. I don't get what going on in their addicted, possibly mentally disturbed heads.
Originally by: democrities Why is it that the mods have closed every other rumor thread except this one????
Because it's not a rumor. A dev confirmed the removal of learnings at fanfest '09. The SP reimbursement system was developed just for this purpose.
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Guttripper
Originally by: Jasdemi Because it's the truth. CCP is just watching the few threads about learnings remooval. Over 90% of all posters agree, so we can be pretty sure about the removal.
Yes CCP, please remove the Learning skills and do NOT grant anyone any bonus attribute points.
People will then train at a slower rate which equals more real life time spent on skills.
More real life time equals longer subscription requirements.
Longer subscription requirements equals more profit for CCP!
Go for it CCP!!!
Screw you guttripper, I trained learning skills, and as a rather new player why should I get screwed over because something you said? no bonuses even if they remove the skills? So all that was for not?
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Like, learning skills?
Yeah. Although the vets who maxed their learnings are the real winners, they still complain. I don't get what going on in their addicted, possibly mentally disturbed heads.
Originally by: democrities Why is it that the mods have closed every other rumor thread except this one????
Because it's not a rumor. A dev confirmed the removal of learnings at fanfest '09. The SP reimbursement system was developed just for this purpose.
WRONG, a dev said they didnt like learning skills. They didnt lay anything definitive out as to its removal. HENCE its a RUMOR Secondly, BULL! They developed the ability to reimburse SP to refund us SP for the downtime, in their own words. NOWHERE Did CCP say "We developed the ability to reimburse SP specifically to facilitate removal of learning skills" NO WHERE.
Ergo, as CCP has not said anything definitive, its a rumor! 09 "We dont like learning skills" isnt = were removing learning skills.
If I say "I dont like my job" that doesnt = "Im going to quit my job"
Theres a difference. Ergo, this is still RUMOR.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.07.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: democrities Why is it that the mods have closed every other rumor thread except this one????
Because the best arguments in this thread, for the removal of the learning skills, were made by DEV alts
Slade
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2010.07.07 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Yeah. Although the vets who maxed their learnings are the real winners, they still complain.
No, not really. 3-4 months ago I finally maxed learning skills on 3 accounts/characters. I could train other skills, sure, but I like long term investments. It would take ~2 years to benefit from these maxed learnings. Now, let's talk in 2012.
Originally by: Jasdemi
I don't get what going on in their addicted, possibly mentally disturbed heads.
Watch your tongue. Take a deep breath. Go for a walk maybe. It's friendly advice.
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Lefty Twotimes
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Posted - 2010.07.07 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Originally by: Jasdemi
Yeah. Although the vets who maxed their learnings are the real winners, they still complain.
No, not really. 3-4 months ago I finally maxed learning skills on 3 accounts/characters. I could train other skills, sure, but I like long term investments. It would take ~2 years to benefit from these maxed learnings. Now, let's talk in 2012.
Originally by: Jasdemi
I don't get what going on in their addicted, possibly mentally disturbed heads.
Watch your tongue. Take a deep breath. Go for a walk maybe. It's friendly advice.
If they refund the learning skills points then any character with them train gets a positive return in other point areas from training them. The benefit time is how long it takes you to gain additional points in other areas for the points spent in learning skills. If you are able to refund those learning skills every skill point you gained since you trained them becomes extra points on top of what other people have. If you finished the skill yesterday or 4 years ago every extra skill point is nothing but pure benefit.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Because it's the truth. CCP is just watching the few threads about learnings remooval. Over 90% of all posters agree, so we can be pretty sure about the removal.
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
Originally by: Jasdemi
Because it's the truth. CCP is just watching the few threads about learnings remooval. Over 90% of all posters agree, so we can be pretty sure about the removal.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.08 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Originally by: Jasdemi
Yeah. Although the vets who maxed their learnings are the real winners, they still complain.
No, not really. 3-4 months ago I finally maxed learning skills on 3 accounts/characters. I could train other skills, sure, but I like long term investments. It would take ~2 years to benefit from these maxed learnings. Now, let's talk in 2012.
No. You have benefited by accelerated training for 3-4 months. It takes around 2 years to profit i.e. get back all your SP investment and more. Assuming that learning is removed and those SP are pooled you get your investment back early. You have still had the benefit over those that didn't invest for 3-4 months. You have benefited less than anybody that invested in learning earlier.
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 08/07/2010 09:29:34 Too bad this forum doesn't allow polls *shrug*
I <3 polls
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K'ven
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:46:00 -
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why... won't.... you..... die!!!
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Miilla
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 08/07/2010 10:59:01 This is the reason I stopped training learning and didnt pump my free SP into them.
Are they staying or not? CCP should respond to this RUMOUR.
I have mine at 5 and 4 mostly anyuway.
What about attribute implants? do they remain?
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Hemp Invader
EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 08/07/2010 10:59:01 Are they staying or not? CCP should respond to this RUMOUR.
CCP can't respond yet, it's not the 21st page!
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:42:00 -
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I heard from a VERY reliable source that the Learning Skills will be going away...
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: Mag's I'm a vet, does that make me angry?
Yes, you vets are grumpy old vets who complain about everything.
I hate it when I complain, without even knowing it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Jasdemi
Caldari Caldari Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.07.08 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 08/07/2010 13:48:15
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Llyandrian
Originally by: Jasdemi
Because it's the truth. CCP is just watching the few threads about learnings remooval. Over 90% of all posters agree, so we can be pretty sure about the removal.
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Lying won't help your lost cause...but keep whining, while I train with maxed learning skills ;)
All my learnings except charisma are maxed, so I don't really care if they decide NOT to remove the learnings. However few of my friends aren't dumb as me to pay few months subs for for practically nothing. They would probably give it another try.
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.08 14:27:00 -
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Removing the learning skills, and compensating people who trained them, would remove one of the major hurdles that new players face when trying to get into the game. ---
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Flynn Fetladral
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2010.07.08 15:05:00 -
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Yeah, I see so many people who join EVE and don't train up learning skills first, it's certainly not something which is obvious to new players unless you join a corp off the bat and someone basically tells you. It's an obstacle to new players just getting into the game. Avoid training them off the bat via ignorance or choice and be plagued by low SP/HR and a longer period of time to get the skills up. Or train them up and have to put more useful skills which help you actually do the enjoyable stuff in EVE.
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Jasdemi
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Posted - 2010.07.08 18:45:00 -
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Up!
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Ardetia
Killer Koalas R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.08 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: K'ven why... won't.... you..... die!!!
haha, agreed! remove learning skills! i will shower ccp with money if they would just throw them away :( ok, so im exaggerating 3%
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rowbin hod
Cloak and Daggers
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Posted - 2010.07.08 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: rowbin hod on 08/07/2010 19:07:34
Originally by: democrities
They developed the ability to reimburse SP to refund us SP for the downtime, in their own words.
I must have missed this. Can you point me to that specific quote please?
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.08 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: rowbin hod Edited by: rowbin hod on 08/07/2010 19:07:34
Originally by: democrities
They developed the ability to reimburse SP to refund us SP for the downtime, in their own words.
I must have missed this. Can you point me to that specific quote please?
Read the dev blog much?
Seriously this whole thing was about SP for long downtime. Why? It saves them money.
This whole learning skills crap is SPECULATION and RUMOR (you know, mods, the type of rumors you said wouldn't be welcome on the board)
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Jasdemi
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Posted - 2010.07.08 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 08/07/2010 20:54:34
Originally by: democrities
Originally by: rowbin hod Edited by: rowbin hod on 08/07/2010 19:07:34
Originally by: democrities
They developed the ability to reimburse SP to refund us SP for the downtime, in their own words.
I must have missed this. Can you point me to that specific quote please?
Read the dev blog much?
Seriously this whole thing was about SP for long downtime. Why? It saves them money.
This whole learning skills crap is SPECULATION and RUMOR (you know, mods, the type of rumors you said wouldn't be welcome on the board)
So they coded this feature just for this downtime? LMAO! If they wanted to give us SP, they could just give us 100% speed training bonus for 30 hours and not bother implementing this feature. If it was just a RUMOR, the mods could've closed the couple threads about learnings removal before they could even reach page two.
I really hope that you weren't serious about saying that they implemented this system just to give players 100k SP for the 30 hours downtime. It's pretty safe that learnings will be removed, the method is not set yet though.
You sir, are allowed to use your brain a little bit. God gave you this wonderful tool, use it!
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democrities
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Posted - 2010.07.08 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi
Originally by: democrities
Originally by: rowbin hod Edited by: rowbin hod on 08/07/2010 19:07:34
Originally by: democrities
They developed the ability to reimburse SP to refund us SP for the downtime, in their own words.
I must have missed this. Can you point me to that specific quote please?
Read the dev blog much?
Seriously this whole thing was about SP for long downtime. Why? It saves them money.
This whole learning skills crap is SPECULATION and RUMOR (you know, mods, the type of rumors you said wouldn't be welcome on the board)
So they coded this feature just for this downtime? LMAO! If they wanted to give us 100% speed training bonus for 30 hours and not bother implementing this feature. If it was just a RUMOR, the mods could've closed the couple threads about learnings removal before they could even reach page two.
I really hope that you weren't serious about saying that they implemented this system just to give players 100k SP for the 30 hours downtime. It's pretty safe that learnings will be removed, the method is not set yet though.
You sir, are allowed to use your brain a little bit. God gave you this wonderful tool, use it!
No, use your brain a little. This was about money. Now instead of cash, if there is an extra long downtime they can simply refund you SP. This was done to save money.
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Jasdemi
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Posted - 2010.07.08 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 08/07/2010 21:01:40
Originally by: democrities
No, use your brain a little. This was about money. Now instead of cash, if there is an extra long downtime they can simply refund you SP. This was done to save money.
Yeah, to save money they wasted developers hours to develop this feature. Dude, did you ever visit school? Stop blabbering bullcrap.
Giving players 100% training speed bonus for 30 hours would be much less time consuming.
Adding this SP reimbursement feature is the first step to reimburse SP for learnings, which will be removed in the near future.
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Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2010.07.08 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jasdemi Stop blabbering bullcrap.
Pot... Kettle..... Black.....
But hey, keep the speculation up. You plea for wanting rewards for free is fun.
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
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Dusica
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.08 21:30:00 -
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This would be ultra cool and made of win ... if it was true... :( Eternal Will. |
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