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wallenbergaren
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Posted - 2009.12.12 19:05:00 -
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Heh, some BPO owners are very happy now Business booming
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UpINYou
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Posted - 2009.12.12 20:30:00 -
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Exactly,
I wonder how much profit would be garnered if you had 0 isk going out on this venture (with the exception of the insurance of course). If you held a well researched bp, gathered your own materials, built the BS's yourself then insured and popped them. Sounds like it would be quite a wealth creator for the right corp with the resources to do it.
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Halcyon Ingenium
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Posted - 2009.12.12 21:30:00 -
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Well this explains what I've been seeing in the Citadel. I must thank you and your cohorts for the salvage, the rise in raw scordite and pyroxeres prices. You've made my operations very profitable since you started. __________ I'm just an ordinary Caldari trying to turn an ISK. What's wrong with that? |
Yakumo Smith
Gallente No End To Infinity Fleetingly Finite
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:30:00 -
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Very interesting read.
It certainly shows the different level that the "big boys" operate at isk wise. I had thought about trying a market manipulation after gathering 15B, probably won't now knowing I could be blown out of the water with ease.
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |
SetrakDark
Caldari DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith Very interesting read.
It certainly shows the different level that the "big boys" operate at isk wise. I had thought about trying a market manipulation after gathering 15B, probably won't now knowing I could be blown out of the water with ease.
It depends on the market. I'm pretty sure there are items out there where 15b would allow you to set prices.
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ropnes
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Posted - 2009.12.13 00:16:00 -
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So what's gonna happen now? Has this thread spread enough awareness the basket price won't drop below the scam level? 102 for a Rokh is insanely low and I wonder if it'll go that low again
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Andron Blaxcor
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Posted - 2009.12.13 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: ropnes So what's gonna happen now? Has this thread spread enough awareness the basket price won't drop below the scam level? 102 for a Rokh is insanely low and I wonder if it'll go that low again
My unsupported speculation sense in tingling.
It won't for a while. The mineral prices will be kept from going down in the immediate future by insurance. A few wars may well send prices up for a while. When they come down again a lot of people will have forgotten about this or left the game. There may be more people doing it, but the game will also be larger with more people playing so supply will also be larger. So, a mixture of factors, but I wouldn't be surprised if it took less than a year for prices to drop low again. Those of us who remember this thread will cash in.
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Jslice
Amarr SniggWaffe Greater Pathetic Community
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Posted - 2009.12.13 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Pre Holy Rage:
1) RMT farmers produced lots of high ends => high ends price drops a lot => low ends price rises
2) Drone regions high ends freighters regularly come to jita, adding to 1)
3) Much important, main systems veldspar roids dry up within 2-4 hours past downtime => low ends supply is heavily capped => low end prices rise. You could indeed go 10 jumps off any decent route, maybe in a no station system and mine, but none really bothered with the effort and logistics.
4) At the same time, the constant huge 0.0 wars push minerals demand up
Post Holy Rage:
1) RMT farmers exterminated, high ends become scarcer (despite WHs), high ends prices rise => less ships are made => less low ends demand => low ends prices drop
2) Drone regions high ends freigthers become rarer => same effect as 1)
3) Low ends are effectively infinite supply. The mining capability given by Hulks can produce FAR exceeding low ends than anyone can hope to use. In the improbable case of a temporary spike, more Hulks are simply deployed to dig more of the effectively infinite supply.
4) Less and less 0.0 wars involving hundreds of capitals => steep reduction in low ends needs.
Just because they did a purge, doesn't mean they haven't come back in full force, you MD people should know this.
Also you say less and less capital wars post holy rage, I would beg to differ. In the months after holy rage to dominion I would say that their has been more capitals killed per month than pre holy rage, lots and lots of monster cap battles have happened I alone have over 150 cap kills to my name in this period and I'm an Aussie player, missing most of the action when we were shooting NC or IT.
So I don't know exactly how true your statement is.
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:28:00 -
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Somewhat related: is there an easy way to figure out the insurance cost/payout for different ships (other than just buying them and checking it myself? Because I'm broke and lazy)
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RJ Nobel
Nobel Research and Development
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin Somewhat related: is there an easy way to figure out the insurance cost/payout for different ships (other than just buying them and checking it myself? Because I'm broke and lazy)
Yes. However, since you're lazy, broke, and unwilling to find the information on your own, what good would the information do you?
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.20 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: RJ Nobel
Originally by: Seth Ruin Somewhat related: is there an easy way to figure out the insurance cost/payout for different ships (other than just buying them and checking it myself? Because I'm broke and lazy)
Yes. However, since you're lazy, broke, and unwilling to find the information on your own, what good would the information do you?
OH MAN YOU TOTALLY BURNED ME!
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.26 12:04:00 -
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Honestly, they should try to make Pend Insurance function in such a way that it tries to make a profit.
Currently the way it is setup sort of makes a laughing stock of the whole 'EVE resembles a real economy' thing. You have, effectively, infinite subsidies for wholesale destruction of prime property.
There are real-life equivalents of course, garantueed sale prices EU for several products (after which the excess was destroyed) come to mind.
Just make Pend Insurance raise the insurance fee on those people who regularly lose ships, that's what any sane insurance company would do.
Besides that, people self-destructing ships en masse sort of breaks my immersion. ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.27 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth Just make Pend Insurance raise the insurance fee on those people who regularly lose ships, that's what any sane insurance company would do.
And kill nullsec warfare? Why do you hate nullsec residents?
"Sorry, can't go on this op, my premiums are through the roof!"
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Krans Hopeson
Hypercube Ventures
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Posted - 2009.12.27 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: Merdaneth Just make Pend Insurance raise the insurance fee on those people who regularly lose ships, that's what any sane insurance company would do.
And kill nullsec warfare? Why do you hate nullsec residents?
"Sorry, can't go on this op, my premiums are through the roof!"
Bull**** -- T2 ships never have been covered "properly" by insurance, but 0.0-dwellers fly & lose them anyway. -- "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask." |
Niquita Serov
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin
"Sorry, can't go on this op, my premiums are through the roof!"
hahaha, just about crapped myself when I read that.
and thanks for the great read OP!
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