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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident L I B E R T Y
7
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:53:00 -
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Mia MuuMaa wrote:So let me get this right....
all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......
right?
Only after the mining barge hunt fails as well, new bounties are put on mining battleships and any vessels found mining, that and also fails to drive mineral prices back up. And they're on a deadline now that CCP announced exhumer changes for the winter. Should be fun to watch tho. |
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
54
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:54:00 -
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LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:06:00 -
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Shea Valerien wrote:LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.
Thought your Covetor was safe, didn't you? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Tusen Takk
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:48:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: So we should go in covops ships and just AFK cloak right?
what else would we do?
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Dental Floss wrote:So let me ask you this: are you guys satisfied with the amount of tears this statement has generated considering that 90% of the last 3 pages have been various goons posting, "YEAH, WE'RE DOING THIS." Yeah I feel a distinct lack of miners. miners only come to the forums to cry, they havent started to properly cry yet |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3438
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:51:00 -
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:Mia MuuMaa wrote:So let me get this right....
all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......
right? Only after the mining barge hunt fails as well, new bounties are put on mining battleships and any vessels found mining, that and also fails to drive mineral prices back up. And they're on a deadline now that CCP announced exhumer changes for the winter. Should be fun to watch tho. lowends have skyrocketed: it's highends that are slumping, but you can't mine highends in empire so if we had 1t in minerals but were losing money it would have to be highends
sorry but your allegations don't even make any sense |
Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
113
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Posted - 2012.06.14 22:53:00 -
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MiserySignals wrote:Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" so much as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs. Evil, but impressive. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4035
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:01:00 -
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MiserySignals wrote:Weaselior wrote:Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints. Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" so much as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs.
But cxvbfgsx and dgfdgfdsg and cxvbfgsx were only in Retrievers man. How can you live with yourself after spoiling the experience of these starry-eyed, naive, hopeful young bot-scripts?
You monster! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
576
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:24:00 -
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Shea Valerien wrote:LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort.
We tried sticking a cork in this spigot that keeps spewing technitium but the cork blew out and took some poor newbie's head off. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1032
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:26:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:But cxvbfgsx and dgfdgfdsg and cxvbfgsx were only in Retrievers man. How can you live with yourself after spoiling the experience of these starry-eyed, naive, hopeful young bot-scripts?
You monster! If they were bots, I hope you reported them to the appropriate authorities. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
576
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:27:00 -
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servellious wrote: You know thats a good question. I honestly cant come up with a good way to make mining fun. I suspect thats why it hasnt changed over the years at all. Maybe if you could blow up asteroids and collect the debris from within by just picking it up?
Utilize a system similar to planetary interaction's planetary view to scan an asteroid and see where the goodies are. Then deploy mining charges around seams of ore in a manner similar to scan probing. How many you can deploy and the area they effect determined by skill points and ship. Then press the big red button. Tractor beams to scoop up the goodies. Difficult for bots to abuse and explosions to entertain the drooling masses. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1032
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Posted - 2012.06.14 23:32:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Shea Valerien wrote:LOL. 25 million? You guys running out of money or something? Not even worth the effort. We tried sticking a cork in this spigot that keeps spewing technitium but the cork blew out and took some poor newbie's head off. He had gotten the medbay orientation and remembered to keep his clone updated, right?
:ohdear: Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Henchmen 21
POS Builder Inc. Silent Requiem
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 00:31:00 -
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A few thoughts....
So we now ridiculously high priced basic minerals and thus anything made from them. Meanwhile there is an organized attack on players likely under 2-3 months old. This is going to result in a universe where a new players have to either spend a fortune in real money or spend their first few months saving for a cruiser.
So why would anyone even bother to stay with this game if starting from scratch? I'm sure I am not the only one who doesn't find grinding for isk as a leisure activity. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun. People may have played EVE back when it started and everything was super expensive but there are many many more options for people to spend their free time on now. I don't mine and couldn't care less about ganking hulks but no new players is going to lead to a very stagnant universe. Careful what you wish for you might just get it.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3441
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Posted - 2012.06.15 00:34:00 -
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Henchmen 21 wrote:. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun.
I agree! That's why I suggest you spend your time having fun by ganking miners. Goonswarm foots the bill, so you don't need to! |
Henchmen 21
POS Builder Inc. Silent Requiem
1
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Posted - 2012.06.15 00:49:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Henchmen 21 wrote:. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun.
I agree! That's why I suggest you spend your time having fun by ganking miners. Goonswarm foots the bill, so you don't need to!
To each his own but I always pull the the little guy and the underdog. If RL left me with any real enthusiasm to log in I'd be more likely to RR a miner then gank him. |
InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.06.15 00:55:00 -
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Mira Lynne wrote:I can see Goon Corp chat: >Guys, i just made a thread. Go spam it. >k >k >if you say so >k >ok >k >k >k >alright >k >ok >k >k >ok >k
No one types in corp chat. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
Betrinna Cantis
5
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:03:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Steve BHD wrote:.........why? Cause they are proving that null is completely dead. This could have been offered years ago and nothing would have happened cause players had better things to do then waste there time on this. However now apparently that has changed. I seriously doubt the number of gankers has remained the same. So it comes down to what were the gankers doing before. It would be interesting to see how many accounts are actually ganking people, and see how those numbers have changed over the years. The people that are ganking have carebear alts. Tell me that is not true.... Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1891
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:12:00 -
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Betrinna Cantis wrote:The people that are ganking have carebear alts. Tell me that is not true....
It's not true.
(You didn't ask for proof, nor honesty) This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
BILLY TH3 KID
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:20:00 -
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" New ORE frig: we want this ship to replace current mining frigates as low barrier of entry vessel, but also fulfill high-end gameplay expectations by providing a very mobile platform for mining in hostile space. Lowest mining output, decent ore bay, little to no resilience. Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP. Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance. Has the largest ore bay, similear to the size of a jet can, second best mining output but less EHP than the procurer mining barge. Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up. "
Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
727
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:22:00 -
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BILLY TH3 KID wrote:" New ORE frig: we want this ship to replace current mining frigates as low barrier of entry vessel, but also fulfill high-end gameplay expectations by providing a very mobile platform for mining in hostile space. Lowest mining output, decent ore bay, little to no resilience. Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP. Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance. Has the largest ore bay, similear to the size of a jet can, second best mining output but less EHP than the procurer mining barge. Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up. "
Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Aaah, lest you forget!
Your ISK/hr will be far lower than a max mining yield hulk.
You will never make the switch. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Betrinna Cantis
5
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:26:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:ok this has me slightly curious.
I understood hulkageddon, it made sense, hulks are supposed to be tough and flying them with paper tank purely to max yield was begging for trouble. People who flew them in such a manner had hell coming on them. Tanking up a hulk and taking steps which would reduce max yield but enhance survivability - ie forward thinking and preparedness were usefull things for people to take on board.
The issue is what sort of "Behavioral Correction Initiative" is there by killing the standard barges? They cant fit tank, they dont have the cpu or powergrid to tank up (yes i know this by attempting to fit a simple dcu onto my covetor) and as mentioned theyre easily killable solo in a ship that could come up to barely 1.5m isk. Not to mention that if a player took the industrial path they can easily be flying a retriever before they leave rookie chat (trust me, i was). So in theory players barely a few weeks old are now targeted as well.
This appears like nothing to do with making people realise they need to fly for survivability instead of iskability. I would like to get the general idea on the concept/reasoning. +1
Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1891
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:28:00 -
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BILLY TH3 KID wrote:" New ORE frig: we want this ship to replace current mining frigates as low barrier of entry vessel, but also fulfill high-end gameplay expectations by providing a very mobile platform for mining in hostile space. Lowest mining output, decent ore bay, little to no resilience. Procurer/Skiff: primarily made for self-defense. Better mining rate than the ORE frig, good ore bay, but capable of having battleship-like EHP. Retriever/Mackinaw: made for self-reliance. Has the largest ore bay, similear to the size of a jet can, second best mining output but less EHP than the procurer mining barge. Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up. "
Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your ISK per hour will be on par with mining in a battleship. So nothing will change. You hear of many mining Rokh ganks? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
634
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:29:00 -
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But but but I thought CCP and goons were BFF's for life? Why would CCP buff mining barges? . |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1185
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:29:00 -
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Henchmen 21 wrote:A few thoughts....
So we now ridiculously high priced basic minerals and thus anything made from them. Meanwhile there is an organized attack on players likely under 2-3 months old. This is going to result in a universe where a new players have to either spend a fortune in real money or spend their first few months saving for a cruiser.
So why would anyone even bother to stay with this game if starting from scratch? I'm sure I am not the only one who doesn't find grinding for isk as a leisure activity. It was everything I could do with that isk that was fun. People may have played EVE back when it started and everything was super expensive but there are many many more options for people to spend their free time on now. I don't mine and couldn't care less about ganking hulks but no new players is going to lead to a very stagnant universe. Careful what you wish for you might just get it.
Cascade Imminent is offering "mining passes" with upgraded systems, guaranteed buy orders and logistics for competitive rates fyi, contact me for details. |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:35:00 -
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Dear friends, I have decided I don't want to gank stuff myself so I am going to pay you a welfare wage to do it for me.
Form a line to the left for Tier 1 Welfare cheques. Form a line to the right for Tier 2 welfare cheques.
Thank you for being a tool |
Maddy Joringer
United Society of Xziles The Skeleton Crew
10
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:38:00 -
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This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players .
This entire thread is created for attention anyway |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1891
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:39:00 -
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Maddy Joringer wrote:This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players .
This entire thread is created for attention anyway
You're dead clever, you. Nobody's yet made that claim. It's a revelation from on high. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:45:00 -
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Maddy Joringer wrote:This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players .
This entire thread is created for attention anyway
Given that the vast majority of miners aren't actually players the only loss will be a small amount of revenue. I'm sure CCP is willing to take a small hit to their subscription income if it means a reduction in bots. And even those miners that are real humans don't actually play Eve while mining anyway. I'm not going to shed a tear over their loss. |
InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:46:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote:Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote: Still waiting on that emergent gameplay. Or did you guys think emergent meant rehashed, lacking creativity or originality?
Except for the whole "has never been done this way or on this scale ever" thing. In other news, shooting missiles/turrets at spaceships is unoriginal and rehashed. Actually not true you did it 5 times before. The first Hulkasgeddon could have been considered emergent but this is nothing more then modifying the rules and rewards. The only thing that has changed is that you are now paying people to do it. Sorry but like most commercials these days. Filled with hype and grand proposals, but in fact it is same old stuff just put in a different package. You would think marketing could come up with something new.
Yes, you're right. Goons truly are on the losing side of this. Sure, we profit massively off of it, but it isn't brand new.
We'll leave in shame now. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
449
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:47:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Maddy Joringer wrote:This nonsense of ganking Mining Barges is gonna kill eve until CCP brings in some modifications. Killing mining barges of 2-3 month old players is only gonna make you loose players .
This entire thread is created for attention anyway Given that the vast majority of miners aren't actually players the only loss will be a small amount of revenue. I'm sure CCP is willing to take a small hit to their subscription income if it means a reduction in bots. And even those miners that are real humans don't actually play Eve while mining anyway. I'm not going to shed a tear over their loss.
CCP Screegs thinks he doing a good job swatting the bots... you say otherwise? |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
578
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Posted - 2012.06.15 01:49:00 -
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BILLY TH3 KID wrote: Eat That S#!T Goondouches! you can bring a fleet of these "cheap" dessys all day long and they'll go POP! before you get shields to 50%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Of course with only one Strip Miner the yield from this ship will be so low that the people we're already blowing up won't bother flying them. The prudent miners are already using battleships or remaining in their Hulks and utilizing the arcane and ancient technique of, "Not Being Tabbed out of the Game While Mining." |
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