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Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
78
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:28:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship.
Found your problem for you. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:31:00 -
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Danks wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship.
Found your problem for you. and what would that be ??
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
baltec1
1441
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:33:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Danks wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship.
Found your problem for you. and what would that be ??
Self entitalment. |
Fabulousli Obvious
State War Academy Caldari State
346
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:34:00 -
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Mining ships should indeed come 'pre-armored' to the 9's.
Go out and whack a RL ore extractor with your fist and then tell me that is not armor. I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. In all matters of opinion, our adversaries are insane. ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900 |
Tallon Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:41:00 -
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We only hurt you because we love you so. |
baltec1
1441
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:45:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Mining ships should indeed come 'pre-armored' to the 9's.
Go out and whack a RL ore extractor with your fist and then tell me that is not armor.
Now hit it with several tank shells. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:47:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Mining ships should indeed come 'pre-armored' to the 9's.
Go out and whack a RL ore extractor with your fist and then tell me that is not armor.
But see, you can't equate a gank catalyst with a guy trying to punch things unless you scale the target down as well. In this case, ganking a hulk would be equivalent to a guy punching a wet paper bag. Not an ore extractor. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
78
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Posted - 2012.06.14 16:58:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Danks wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship.
Found your problem for you. and what would that be ??
Thinking you don't have to tank your mining vessel cuz, ya know, it's a mining vessel. Clearly a tank is in order. Don't bother thanking me, I'm happy to help. |
Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
41
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Posted - 2012.06.14 17:07:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Aramatheia wrote:guidance counselling for what though? How to tank a covetor you shouldn't have to tank one or a hulk. It's a mining ship. Do you think BP or Shell half fill their ship just incase they sink, no they brim the sh!te out of them and get the oil to market a fast as possible. they do when they pass somalia!
i wish i had a russian warship with me when i was mining.. they waste no time with pirates lol |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 17:22:00 -
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Anyone know where I can buy a cheap Botting program from?
I am tired of just sitting there and mining. thanks |
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Haulie Berry
207
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Posted - 2012.06.14 17:23:00 -
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Fabulousli Obvious wrote:Mining ships should indeed come 'pre-armored' to the 9's.
Go out and whack a RL ore extractor with your fist and then tell me that is not armor.
Why a fist?
Why not, e.g., a couple of rounds from even the smallest of military/naval vessels? |
servellious
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:02:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:if only mining involved more than locking up as many rocks as you have beams (or your ships limit), activating your beams, and watching the ore flow in.
I'd love a good thread for brainstorming ideas to make it interactive, less bot friendly, and perhaps make it more interesting too for ppl who wish to oppose/kill mining ops. I mean surely a 7 second barge bash cant be all that exhilarating, even if the killer is anti miner
You know thats a good question. I honestly cant come up with a good way to make mining fun. I suspect thats why it hasnt changed over the years at all. Maybe if you could blow up asteroids and collect the debris from within by just picking it up? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1030
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Posted - 2012.06.14 18:08:00 -
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servellious wrote: Maybe if you could blow up asteroids and collect the debris from within by just picking it up? Like shooting red plus signs and looting the wrecks, then?
Except it's "mining" rocks, and looting the "can" Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Mia MuuMaa
Unfinished Sympathy Unconscious State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:14:00 -
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So let me get this right....
all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......
right? |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
140
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:21:00 -
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Interesting.
The question becomes this: While yes, a T1 destroyer can nuke a mining barge solo...and the bounties paid by the swarm will more than make up for the cost of lost dessies... one must factor in time. You get the same 15 minute global criminal timer for nuking a retriever as you do a hulk, as well as the same security status hit. While it might be worth the time and effort for a dedicated ganker to keep an orca in tow and use it to launch ships for them (so they don't need to worry about ratting to restore security status) when hunting exhumers for a 100 mil payday... is it worth it for a 25 mil payday for hunting barges?
Still, this should keep mineral prices nice and high until CCP's revamp of mining ship roles, tanks and attributes hit. In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
633
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:29:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:Interesting.
The question becomes this: While yes, a T1 destroyer can nuke a mining barge solo...and the bounties paid by the swarm will more than make up for the cost of lost dessies... one must factor in time. You get the same 15 minute global criminal timer for nuking a retriever as you do a hulk, as well as the same security status hit. While it might be worth the time and effort for a dedicated ganker to keep an orca in tow and use it to launch ships for them (so they don't need to worry about ratting to restore security status) when hunting exhumers for a 100 mil payday... is it worth it for a 25 mil payday for hunting barges?
Still, this should keep mineral prices nice and high until CCP's revamp of mining ship roles, tanks and attributes hit.
For most folks it's not about the money. . |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
726
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:32:00 -
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Time to skill up those orca alts. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Torneach
Viziam Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:42:00 -
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This is getting boring.
Just when we thought GD was done with this nonsense, someone just has to post another one of these damn threads. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3431
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:44:00 -
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Mia MuuMaa wrote:So let me get this right....
all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......
right? a highsec miner mining in a system without concord and without local
yeah that sounds about right |
Generals4
880
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:53:00 -
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I guess this is a good plan to increase the profitability of Goon carebearing deep in sov 0.0 ? -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |
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Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:59:00 -
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Why not make it more interesting and pay out rewards for ganking Goons? |
Mia MuuMaa
Unfinished Sympathy Unconscious State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:00:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Mia MuuMaa wrote:So let me get this right....
all the miners will just be moving to WHs and that is going to be the end of it......
right? a highsec miner mining in a system without concord and without local yeah that sounds about right
Lol to me it just seems more like a loss of time and just a raising of the strongest win always. but well u rule so we just go with the wind. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:28:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Why not make it more interesting and pay out rewards for ganking Goons?
Shooting blues for free is a time honoured tradition. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
MiserySignals
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.14 20:42:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints. Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs. |
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident L I B E R T Y
7
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:28:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Hulkageddon V was a resounding sucess
No it wasn't and it still isn't. By Alex's own admission you bought a trillion in minerals. The prices have gone down since burn jita and still aren't going back up, leaving you holding truckloads of overpriced minerals. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3434
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:29:00 -
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MiserySignals wrote:Weaselior wrote:Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints. Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs. Holy crap, that's going into the first post. |
Alia Gon'die
Aliastra Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:30:00 -
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:Weaselior wrote:Hulkageddon V was a resounding sucess No it wasn't and it still isn't. By Alex's own admission you bought a trillion in minerals. The prices have gone down since burn jita and still aren't going back up, leaving you holding truckloads of overpriced minerals.
And yet in terms of number of hulks killed and total value of the kills it is a resounding success. Self-appointed forums hallway monitor |
Mira Lynne
State War Academy Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:32:00 -
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Amarrius Ibn Pontificus wrote:Weaselior wrote:Hulkageddon V was a resounding sucess No it wasn't and it still isn't. By Alex's own admission you bought a trillion in minerals. The prices have gone down since burn jita and still aren't going back up, leaving you holding truckloads of overpriced minerals.
Yes it was, it just happens that it wasnt a sucess for you. Sounds to me like goonwallets are nice and fat now. Support the Return of Realistic Module Icons! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114818&find=unread |
Amarrius Ibn Pontificus
Liberty Trident L I B E R T Y
7
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:39:00 -
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All I have to say is...
The Mittani wrote: You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything
Zing! |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1889
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:49:00 -
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MiserySignals wrote:Weaselior wrote:Due to their weaker tank, they can be killed with a pure t1 destroyer - no need to fit t2, allowing you to continue your ganking indefinitely on the mining barge bounty. In fact, some mining barges are so lightly tanked that if you're willing to make the sacrifice and go -10, you can pod them with the very same destroyer that killed their ship and bask in the +5s and +5% mining implants they had plugged in. Many of these people believe that people cannot actually be podded in empire: the stern thrashing given by destroying their alpha clone may even prevent them from such activity in the future as they lose skillpoints. Honestly once you're going for t1 mining ships its not a question of "what do I need to kill it" as "how many can I kill at once". My record is 4, but there were only 4 in the belt. In any case this has the potential to be more profitable than ganking exhumers since you can earn a payout every 2-3 GCCs.
Holy crap. 4 and two pods!. You were busy. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
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