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Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.06.14 06:45:00 -
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I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1030
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Posted - 2012.06.14 06:58:00 -
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Peta Michalek wrote:I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it. I.. I don't know....
What are the barges made of besides blueprints and minerals? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
18
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:01:00 -
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I kinda figured this would happen eventually. Once highsec miners started getting a clue. (Read: after several 200 million isk + losses)
I guess this means I'll have to do some EFT Warrioring and make 3 more mining battleship fits to complement the Rokh. |
Betrinna Cantis
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:05:00 -
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Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
1146
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:14:00 -
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Betrinna Cantis wrote:Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin...
This has never been about educating miners or any of that. This is, has been and always will be, about screaming for attention. You seriously thought this was about killing macro miners/bots or bringing 'content' to the game??
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Scott Ryder
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:15:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Peta Michalek wrote:I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it. I.. I don't know.... What are the barges made of besides blueprints and minerals?
love <3 |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1291
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:20:00 -
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Peta Michalek wrote:I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.
Economy 101:
- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium
- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.
- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Betrinna Cantis
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:27:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Peta Michalek wrote:I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it. Economy 101: - You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium - Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more. - You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again. Until CCP starts to listen to all the whiners and buff the exhumers. Then when the winter expansion for Industry comes out... start all over. Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
Vinni Starseeker
MMMMMA
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:29:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Peta Michalek wrote:I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.
It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it. Economy 101: - You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium - Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more. - You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.
Yea - I was wondering if there was a money angle and figured the same thing.
I used to mine a couple of hours a day - now like a lot of people I just don't mine. I hope all you people enjoy the higher prices for ships/ammo/etc...
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:32:00 -
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Betrinna Cantis wrote:Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... you have to realise that while the afterbirth that is the mittani was on his 30 day ban, fapping away to his hearts content, he got kind of bitter and sore in the wrist.
All that was going through his peanut was "how dare ccp ban me for....need more tissue...encourage people to ....uuughhhh, that was a good one....make some one kill themselves."
Thisis not about emergent game play or stopping botting or afk mining. It's about a small minded man with an over inflated ego and a lot of insecurites. The only way he and goons can payback ccp (for doing the right thing) is to hit them were it hurts... Their bottom line, the miners that are always going to pay on their 3+ accounts.
It will go away just like goons.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
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Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
232
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:33:00 -
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There is a very disturbingly 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Betrinna Cantis
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:38:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread. Agreed Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
232
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Posted - 2012.06.14 07:52:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:
We've all grown to loathe the highsec miner
Adolf wrote:
We've all grown to loathe the jew
Pretty much that. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Betrinna Cantis
2
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:00:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Weaselior wrote:
We've all grown to loathe the highsec miner
Adolf wrote:
We've all grown to loathe the jew
Pretty much that. The parallels go even deeper than hate rhetoric; try and create a public enemy to rally the sheeple in order to make them support your own agenda. In ******'s case it was world domination, in Goons' case it is making ISK. I tend to agree, Hedge is correct in that it is a temper tantrum also. Mining in Hi sec will never go away'too many people like it and it iS in the ads. And the dictator you are refering to also did not survive as do all that try to do such things. Pushing people around does not work well because history has a way of repeating itself. Definition of Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. There is a limit to what is being done here and soon it will be found. Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:07:00 -
[75] - Quote
Tor Gungnir wrote: EDIT: Really now? H!tler is censored? /facedesk
He's like Lord V*ldemort |
Urziel99
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
18
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:11:00 -
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I'll just leave this here........
[Rokh, Mining] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Explosive Deflection Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Mining Drone II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
This fit has 118k EHP, is cap stable and mines about 1063 m3/min (a standard max yield fitted Hulk yields 1624) [both with no bonuses or implants]*
It will be a pain to manage as the cargo bay is miniscule compared to the Hulk [2106 vs 8000] but it beats getting nothing and a lossmail.
*The above assumes all skills 5 and a clean head. (Your mileage may vary slightly) |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
232
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:14:00 -
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Aooz wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote: EDIT: Really now? H!tler is censored? /facedesk
He's like Lord V*ldemort
Voldemort
EDIT: Oh I see. A joke, which I didn't get... Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Peta Michalek
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:17:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Economy 101:
- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium
- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.
- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.
"smarten up and switch to T1"? You don't switch back to a Retriever when you can fly a Hulk. The yield difference is insane, it's just not cost effective in any way whatsoever. Contrary to what corpsec likes to preach most miners are not morons and can calculate cost effectiveness much better than people who spend most of their time buying dozens of Rifters to get blown up in.
If someone is flying a Retriever it means (s)he doesn't have either ISK or skills to fly a Hulk, period. So people who are targeted now are mostly new players who chose the mining career. |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
232
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:21:00 -
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Though you are technically correct (the best kind of correct), a dead Hulk has way lower ISK/Hour ratio than an alive Retriever. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1334
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:36:00 -
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Betrinna Cantis wrote:Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Ganking for GSF payouts only works if your barge can be taken down by a short burst of high DPS. If your ship withstands that, then you'll not be profitable. Logi supported mining ops might not be 100% safe, but they won't be chained for profit.
Sure, someone could alpha you in a Tornado, but it costs them 90mil to do it for a 10mil reward.
As for the OP - the quality is inspirational.
Hopefully that Covetor blob I pegged last week is not wise by the time I get home.
n.b. if you're mining for ISK, you're doing it wrong. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:36:00 -
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Can't people just buy 10 procurers (for about 25 mill total), insure them, and then kill 'em with another corp alt to collect insurance and goongoo without any sec loss or other trouble?
I can't find any hulkaggedon rules which prohibit this. Or maybe do it with a trial alt to be super-sekrit?
CBA myself, but still... |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1334
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:41:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread.
I'm surprised it got to post #71 before we had **** parallels.
Hint: The **** party and ****** are censored because it's utterly offensive to compare PLAYING A GAME to a genocide.
- "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:45:00 -
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Compared To ***** - Check Worse Than Stalin - Presumably... Check Jade Constantine Bad Posts - Awwww
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |
Levo Harkonnen
EC Riders
12
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:46:00 -
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Combatmining best mining. |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:48:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread. I'm surprised it got to post #71 before we had **** parallels. Hint: The **** party and ****** are censored because it's utterly offensive to compare PLAYING A GAME to a genocide.
Because I said Holocaust repeatedly in my post, right?
Political climate of 1930's Germany =/= The Holocaust.
The rhetoric in the opening post is eerily similar Adolf's when he got the crowds worked up during rallies.
Deal with it. *sunglasses* Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
Dheeradj Nurgle
Antwerpse Kerels The Skeleton Crew
16
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:49:00 -
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Posting in a BoB thread......
O-T
Who the frak cares. They managed to get a hold of a vital part of T2 production, It's a ligit way of making profit in EVE. |
Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:49:00 -
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Oh, hey , they already had the incest part halfway covered!
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |
Venri Zod
Order of the Black Dagger Damu'Khonde
1
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:53:00 -
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Seig heil mein goonfuhrer! |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1334
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Posted - 2012.06.14 08:57:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Because I said Holocaust repeatedly in my post, right?
Political climate of 1930's Germany =/= The Holocaust.
The rhetoric in the opening post is eerily similar Adolf's when he got the crowds worked up during rallies.
Deal with it. *sunglasses*
I said **** parallels then told you why the words were censored.
- "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Tor Gungnir
Agenda Industries
233
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Posted - 2012.06.14 09:03:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Because I said Holocaust repeatedly in my post, right?
Political climate of 1930's Germany =/= The Holocaust.
The rhetoric in the opening post is eerily similar Adolf's when he got the crowds worked up during rallies.
Deal with it. *sunglasses* I said **** parallels then told you why the words were censored.
You also said "genocide" in order to make my post out to be worse than it was.
Learn2history. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
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