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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine I'm largely impervious to any kind of trolling and simply turn the energies of detractors to the useful service of promoting the message I want promoted.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux You're not a very good liar.
Thats okay you weren't a very good Free Captain
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Devilish Ledoux on 11/06/2009 16:55:57
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux You're not a very good liar.
Thats okay you weren't a very good Free Captain
See what I mean?
And for reference, I AM a better Freecaptain than you. For one, I'm FREE. _
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:08:00 -
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You are a clown Devilish. You were seduced by the wilful psychosis of our enemies and have thrown yourself into the mess of random murder and violence for its own sake. I pity you really. If you think yourself better than me then prove it. Change the universe. Make me take notice in your accomplishments and vision and make me listen to your words rather than scorn them. Find something you believe in and convince me its right.
Until then you'll keep on feeling empty inside because you have replaced something with nothing and have only the loneliness of pointless conflict to look forward to hereafter while you circle like a flame-drawn moth to the passion you have lost.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine If you think yourself better than me then prove it. Change the universe.
You first.
PS: Tell me more about how you're impervious to trolling. |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:20:00 -
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I noticed you evaded the point about the hurt and loss you feel inside Devilish. Must be something you find difficult to deal with. But on the throwaway line of the trolling you must know that to "troll" a person you need to anger them and force an unwise response? You are incapable of angering me so how would you be able to "troll" me? If anything I think you are "trolling" yourself here since you've dug a rather embarrassing pit that you are trying to dig your way out of.
But by all means continue with a silly responses. I'll reply to the next when the thread needs a convenient bump.
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:28:00 -
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Hurt and loss? I think you're projecting, doll. I have inflicted quite a bit of both in my time. Would that be what you're referencing? Or perhaps you're continuing to indulge in your rich fantasy life?
Also, every single response you make is unwise. Every single response. If you had any sense (you don't), you'd clear everything you want to say with Cosmo beforehand. Of course, you wouldn't say very much then, and what fun would that be? |
Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux what fun would that be?
Psst... read this again a few times. Maybe none of us are immune as we'd like to think
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux what fun would that be?
Psst... read this again a few times. Maybe none of us are immune as we'd like to think
Yes, but you see how I don't get angry, while she does? That's how I know I've won. _
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Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine I suspect the majority of the names he conjures above do not support his sentiments and are frankly embarrassed by his continued attempts to cause rifts between Stimulus and The Star Fraction.
I contest this claim. You would be better off to discuss issues where you have factual basis and talent. Correctly judging and evaluating the motivations of former comrades is not one of those talents.
Originally by: Jade Constantine If you think yourself better than me then prove it. Change the universe.
Ah, but here we have the clincher. This is where the actual interest and value lies.
You see, yourself and your organization is jailed to the concept of being in servitude to the greater cause of humanity as a collective. You have managed the admirable step of discarding the collectivism of the nationalist structures prevalent in baseline society, but through your ideology you are still considering yourselves subservient to a greater good that diminishes and insults your own potential.
You are sovereign. You are a nation unto yourself. Yet you do not realize this and would rather jail yourself to the service of others - even those that do not ask for your assistance and tutelage. This is your failing, your counscious intent of making yourself a slave to others; and not through the coercion of others, but through your own design.
Those who are enslaved to others are deplorable victims that should justly be freed and enabled to realize their own potential. Those who are slaves to their own ideals, placing themselves below those of lesser capability and of lesser intellect and potential can only be deplored for their misguided choices.
You are a slave. And unlike those who are enslaved due to the overbearing powers and resources of others and deserve aid, emancipation and camaraderie, you are a slave to your own misguided ideals, lost cause, and self-inflicted servitude to a collective.
You have failed to realize, desire, and take for yourself the one thing that the transhuman revolution has given you. Yet still you preach as if your ideal and moral of servitude was an ideal worthy of any capable posthuman society. This is sad.
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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: Bad Harlequin
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux what fun would that be?
Psst... read this again a few times. Maybe none of us are immune as we'd like to think
Yes, but you see how I don't get angry, while she does? That's how I know I've won.
You get to the heart of the matter. Fact is, none of us "see" how the others are really reacting. I see a lot of people projecting emotions onto others, though. Sometimes unconsciously, sometimes deliberately to provoke a reaction. Galnet broadcasts don't have an emotive carrier signal...
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Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 19:58:00 -
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So you are saying that Free Captains of Star Fraction should replace their ideals with self interest. No thanks.
Sorry, but organizations like Stimulus are dime a dozen. I share Jade's opinion regarding the fact that some Stimulus pilots who I was privileged to fly with earlier, now turned bitter and angry because they lost something. Your souls are empty. You exist simply to exist. The battles you win bear no consequence except destruction. You are not even pirates, just exterminators.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 20:10:00 -
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I find the contretemps raised by certain former members of the Fraction rather synthetic but, as my name was conjured with, I will certainly disavow and reject any suggestion that anyone needs to, or should, run responses by me on matters of personal philosophy and political outlook. Far less do they need to consult me when it is a matter of dismissing faintly bizarre insults and flacid goads.
As for the suggestion that we are in any way concerned with some mythical 'greater good' or are binding ourselves to the service of some amorphous 'collective': nonsense.
I suppose the error, while fairly gross, can be comprehended but it is, at this time, a fairly novel one to be laid against us and, I think, it depends on your perspective. If you are, perhaps, an ultra-egoist who, perhaps, believes in the total and solipsistic supremacy of the individual where, we may presume, the individual has shucked off all vestiges of humanity, or transhumanity, and abandoned any meaningful status as a social being, well then it might be that the views and actions of those who still consider themselves social beings, for all that they also see themselves as sovereign beings, might seem rather less than satisfactory. If you are an ultra-egoist, that is.
But what is this? 'Those who are enslaved to others are deplorable victims that should justly be freed and enabled to realize their own potential.' Indeed? But pray, where has the ultra-egoist gone? And see here again: people 'who are enslaved due to the overbearing powers and resources of others [...] deserve aid, emancipation and camaraderie'. Ah? Why is that then? If providing aid, freeing such and entering into camaraderie with those in need of it is acceptable, why is it? What is in it for the one who is 'sovereign'? What is in it for the one who is 'a nation unto [himself]'? Isn't this making yourself a slave to these people who need freeing and enabling? Is this not servitude in the name of the great collective mass of the enslaved and oppressed?
Of course it is not and you would not consider it such I am sure. So why then are you not a slave of your own ideals while we in the Star Fraction, apparently, are? Why is your short-term altruism in pursuit, so I suppose, of long-term interest fine but our's not?
Disagree with our analysis of the surest method of securing our personal freedom and self-interest, which is to say enabling this for all, by all means (though I am not sure how much you do disagree given you apparently approve of freeing those who suffer the myriad forms of slavery in this cluster), but I would ask you not to make the error of equating the method with the motivation.
Your instincts are surer and have more force, I think, than your polemic. You would free the enslaved. Yet you believe in your self-interest. How can these two things be reconciled? Quite easily, and I really think I have no need to teach you who knows it best of all.
The Cosmopolite
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aphoxakhan
Originally by: Tsual I ... must ... confess ... now I also want some of those colourfull pills you had.
No drug shares my breath, the complexities of my thoughts are a lovely result of one plus one equals Aphoxakhan. I am jubilant forever, though I have only mud to graze upon.
You're logical conclusion might be a brilliant delusion of grandeur on the other hand you're not so wrong if you go with the possible numerical interpretation of two being a female number. |
Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite But what is this? 'Those who are enslaved to others are deplorable victims that should justly be freed and enabled to realize their own potential.' Indeed? But pray, where has the ultra-egoist gone?
She has gone to where the greatest benefit to herself lies - namely, to those who she considers her peers in both intellectual and practical capability. Because it is here that she can thrive, it is here that she can prosper not only as an economic entity but also as an intellectual entity.
Aiding individuals because their specific emancipation will be a gain to you is a very obvious good. A capable individual has nothing to fear from enlarging their associations, as long as it is enlagerd by other enlightened, capable individuals.
Aiding individuals due to a code of ethics that relies on your duty to a, in perception, enslaved collective of an obsolete humanity, is self-sacrifice and antithesis to progress. Restricting yourself due to similar perceived obligations is even worse, since it not only places yourself in a servitude to others, it is directly violating your own capability as a sovereign indivudual.
What you fail to realize is that just as giving aid is contingent upon the purpose served for yourself as a capable individual and a nation unto yourself, just like the potential you see in the individual receiver, and the refusal to aid yourself is a negation of yourself and an abdication of your potential, restricting yourself for any such collectivistic concerns is equally an abdication of your own value and a total destruction of all that you aspire to be as an individual.
Whoever makes herself, or her conduct, subservient to a collective that is not completely made of her peers, is only asking to make herself a product of someone else's scheme. Also, this infatuation with social interaction beyond what is beneficial seems strange to me from anyone that has taken the first steps of rejecting the collectivist memes of baseline humanity's social constructs.
You are not dependant on others. You are not dependant on the approval of others. You are not dependant on the product of others. You are not dependant on the capabilities of others.
The only thing you are dependant upon is yourself.
And this is exactly what allows you to be fully free in your interactions with other individuals; that they are completely free of obligation, need, or the contamination of collectivist memes such as the requirement to be restrained against others even when this goes detrimental to your own purposes.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite though I am not sure how much you do disagree given you apparently approve of freeing those who suffer the myriad forms of slavery in this cluster
For your benefit, since I do appreciate your contribution to the development of transhumanist philosophy, I shall make it as clear as is possible:
I have everything to gain from aiding competent individuals in whom I can see unrealized potential. I am practically immortal, I have a huge amount of time in which to recoup expenses through interaction with other individuals whom I have helped.
However, I have no obligation to do any specific action, or restrain any specific action, against, for, or towards, any individual who cannot be made of relevance to my own personal life. This is the thing that Star Fraction has not yet realized - what has happened is not only that you have been given the chance of being immortal, you have been given the chance of being truly independent. Not only economically independent, but psychologically, ideologically, socially and methodologically.
The worst kind of shackles that can bind a person is those that are self-imposed. Relieve yourself of those. |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 20:50:00 -
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Cosmo, as ever, your comments are a tribute to your own character as well as one of the last remaining shimmers of hope for The Star Fraction. You are a tragic character stuck in a dying revolution by your own admirable sense of loyalty to the cause and fierce determination to pursue it to whatever end it may come to. |
Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
As for the suggestion that we are in any way concerned with some mythical 'greater good' or are binding ourselves to the service of some amorphous 'collective': nonsense.
I suppose the error, while fairly gross, can be comprehended.
Cosmopolite, if even prominent ex-SF members make 'faily gross errors' when interpreting the SF anarchist philosophy, don't you think its about time you admit the SF philosophy is extremely vague at best and contradictory at worst?
Unless you mean to say you disagree, rather than say your former allies are making errors?
Or do you perhaps want to accuse your former allies of intentionally misunderstanding the SF dogma? ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bacchanalian Cosmo, as ever, your comments are a tribute to your own character as well as one of the last remaining shimmers of hope for The Star Fraction. You are a tragic character stuck in a dying revolution by your own admirable sense of loyalty to the cause and fierce determination to pursue it to whatever end it may come to.
I suppose that to the many of the ex-SF members, this is the true Anarchist Tragedy? ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 11/06/2009 21:21:49
Originally by: Merdaneth Or do you perhaps want to accuse your former allies of intentionally misunderstanding the SF dogma?
I see what scheme you have in play there. The disagreement between myself and Cosmo is a philosophical one. I consider myself to have proceeded beyond where I was when I was a Star Fraction director. Cosmo considers me mistaken.
You should not attempt to construe my post to be a characterization of "SF dogma". It is very contradictory to SF dogma. This is part of the reason why I am not part of the Star Fraction, but rather a Stimulus political officer in the Rote Kapelle.
Do not presume to weasel yourself into interpreting such things for us. You are not worthy. |
Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:22:00 -
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The revolution is no more dead than the circumstances which necessitate it. |
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth if even prominent ex-SF members make 'faily gross errors' when interpreting the SF anarchist philosophy, don't you think its about time you admit the SF philosophy is extremely vague at best and contradictory at worst?
There is a reason why these ex-SF members are ex-SF members and its usually because they have disagreed with the philosophy of the Star Fraction on some level. Typically they have taken part in the democratic selection of war-aims and objectives and disagreed with the outcome and decided to seek their own path outside the Fraction.
There is nothing vague or contradictory about the SF philosophy and only an Amarrian nationalist could believe or state it so.
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zverofaust The revolution is no more dead than the circumstances which necessitate it.
The revolution is whenever we reincarnate. Whenever we cheat death. Whenever we create through our own capability. Whenever we perform an act of our own, individual will. The Revolution is whenever we kill those who say "you shall". The Revolution is whenever we make love only for our own pleasure and happiness. It lies in any and all acts that the establishment would not have us do, but that we through our capability do anyway.
It is not dependent on any other "circumstance" than an individual taking full responsibility for herself, but also taking responsiblity only for herself.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bacchanalian Cosmo, as ever, your comments are a tribute to your own character as well as one of the last remaining shimmers of hope for The Star Fraction. You are a tragic character stuck in a dying revolution by your own admirable sense of loyalty to the cause and fierce determination to pursue it to whatever end it may come to.
It does seem to be quite the evening for Stimulus officers to speak against the Star Fraction and condemn as "failed" a revolution they themselves abandoned some years ago. You made your choice Bacchanalian. You chose to depart the Fraction and seek your own name and noteriety in the Star Cluster. You swore to build your own fame and measure yourself against your own achievements.
Yet here we are years on from your departure and you are still seeking to criticise and condemn the cause and ideals of the Star Fraction. One might ask what is so wrong with Stimulus at the moment that you feel obliged to condemn an organization that you left a long time ago? Surely the very best form of criticism would be to have achieved great things in your own name and put us to your shadow rather than feeling obliged to bring us to the earth so your shadow might even be seen?
I understand you disagree with us on many respects. You believe we are wrong to practise an NRDS ideology. You believe we are wrong to engage the 24th Crusade. You believe we are wrong to befriend the Matari insurgents. Doubtless you believe we are wrong to fly tech1 Cruisers and wrong to engage in a war of attrition in the Bleaklands also. But none of this is news. These are old disagreements that took you from our number a long time ago.
Why only now come to speak of what you perceive to be a "dying revolution"? Why speak at this precise time? Why in this thread are the Amarrian Nationalists, Sanshan Zombies and Stimulus raiders united in condemnation of the Star Fraction?
I knew the tale in the op was a powerful one. But what threat does it present to your way of life Bacchanalian?
What do you gain from seeking continued argument with the Fraction?
Why are you so fearful for the status of Stimulus that you belittle the Fraction rather than lauding your own accomplishments and striving to become first amongst equals?
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Merdaneth on 11/06/2009 21:53:55
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko The disagreement between myself and Cosmo is a philosophical one.
As is mine. We are all talking about philosophical disagreements here, right?
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko I consider myself to have proceeded beyond where I was when I was a Star Fraction director. Cosmo considers me mistaken.
You should not attempt to construe my post to be a characterization of "SF dogma". It is very contradictory to SF dogma.
I didn't construe it so, the Cosmopolite did. He didn't (just) disagree with you, he also thought you had made a 'gross error'. A crucial difference.
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Do not presume to weasel yourself into interpreting such things for us. You are not worthy.
You mean that when I think the Cosmopolite says error he doesn't meant error and I am 'interpreting things' by assuming it is an error?
I don't believe you really object to my interpretation, but just to the fact that I interfering with your discussion. You really should have thought of that before you began to interject comments that had no direct bearing on the topic of this thread. Your petty squabble is interfering with *my* philosophical discussion with SF luminaries, not the other way around miss Nuko.
I will point out errors in the Cosmopolite's reasoning as I see fit. I believe The Cosmopolite might indeed have intended to say 'disagree' but said 'error' in his response. However, I believe this was a deliberate attempt to make himself sound more factual and more convincing. A useful ploy but prone to backfire as it has in this case.
I am indeed not worthy, but I don't need to to discuss philosophy, right? Perhaps your particular breed of anarchism believes in some threshold of worthiness before someone can add a response to a public discussion? Perhaps you should call the worthiness police to arrest me for giving my opinion, for only 'the worthy Elders of Rote Kapelle and Star Fraction' are allowed to join the discussion, right?
Edit: just had to add this little gem
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko The revolution is whenever we reincarnate. Whenever we cheat death. Whenever we create through our own capability. Whenever we perform an act of our own, individual will. The Revolution is whenever we kill those who say "you shall".
I believe, ms. Nuko, that you just told me 'you shall not interfere or interpret my discussion with the Cosmopolite'. Perhaps you might consider studying hypocrisy 101 again? Or will you kill yourself now to continue the revolution? |
Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Yet here we are years on from your departure and you are still seeking to criticise and condemn the cause and ideals of the Star Fraction.
I fail to see how leaving means we cannot express our disagreements when they arise. You seek to apply our separation as a gag against us, which is folly and you know it. You should know better than to think that such a simple ploy would not be seen through.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why in this thread are the Amarrian Nationalists, Sanshan Zombies and Stimulus raiders united in condemnation of the Star Fraction?
We are not. This is easy to read. Certain elements that are sorely lacking in their own intellectual capability have tried to piggyback on our arguments, but you know quite well that that does not equal a sanction in the other direction. Again, a very simple ploy that you should know is easy to see through. |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 11/06/2009 22:05:25
Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
I fail to see how leaving means we cannot express our disagreements when they arise. You seek to apply our separation as a gag against us, which is folly and you know it. You should know better than to think that such a simple ploy would not be seen through.
What are you disagreeing with? Are you trying to tell us how the Star Fraction should be organized? How we should vote on our campaigns and focus now? What makes you think you have a stake in the movement any more? Why would we care what you think?
And you will refrain from telling me what "I seek". That is the tactic of the Amarrian nationalist and demeaning to you.
What I am asking here is why you left in the first place when intellectually it appears you have never really made the break. Earlier you spouted a mix of nonsense cod-philosophical rambling that a child could see through. In the Fraction you'd quite rightfully have been laughed at. What makes you believe you should be judged more kindly years after you quit the cause for random NBSI violence and pointless aggression against neutrals?
I'm asking quite honestly now. Are you so ashamed of your own accomplishments these last two years that the only way you can feel good about yourself is to attempt to criticise ours?
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:33:00 -
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Jade, this may have never happened to you before, but bear with me a moment.
You're walking down the street on the way to run an errand, in a small town where everyone knows you. On your way to the grocery, amidst friendly waves and greetings from your neighbors and peers, you notice someone up the street making a scene. Overturning a fruit cart, yelling loudly, generally making a scene, and then turning and staggering in your direction, recognition showing through the inebriated face slathered in drool and sweat as it makes eye contact with you.
You can't help but feel a twinge of pain, pity, remorse. Maybe you could have done something once to help them. Maybe you could have offered them a place to stay, more support when they first started struggling with alcohol, maybe...but no, you had your own life to pursue, your own things to take care of, and after all, you can't take responsibility for every person who decides to ruin their own lives, no matter how much it hurts to watch them do it.
You don't notice your friends' faces as he greets you with his slovenly, drunken greeting, spittle and perhaps a hint of vomit streaming from the corner of his mouth as his lopsided smile spreads--you're too caught up in a mixture of pity, remorse, regret, and anger at them for making you feel all of that.
If I could sum up my personal feelings for Star Fraction since I chose to leave it, the above about sums it up to me. |
Jonny Damordred
Freecaptains' Union Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.06.12 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine And its fairly clear there is no love lost between Devilish Ledaux and myself and there is a personal feud here. I suspect the majority of the names he conjures above do not support his sentiments and are frankly embarrassed by his continued attempts to cause rifts between Stimulus and The Star Fraction.
Never speak for me, ever.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny Damordred
Originally by: Jade Constantine And its fairly clear there is no love lost between Devilish Ledaux and myself and there is a personal feud here. I suspect the majority of the names he conjures above do not support his sentiments and are frankly embarrassed by his continued attempts to cause rifts between Stimulus and The Star Fraction.
Never speak for me, ever.
What makes you think I was speaking for you? I had you categorized in the minority of puling idiots who Devilish Ledaux was speaking for but were too gutless to speak for themselves.
And don't deign to speak to me in that tone you mockery of a man. Its not like you have the courage to follow through on any threat.
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ChipMo
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.06.12 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 11/06/2009 21:09:08 She has gone to where the greatest benefit to herself lies - namely, to those who she considers her peers in both intellectual and practical capability. Because it is here that she can thrive, it is here that she can prosper not only as an economic entity but also as an intellectual entity.
cont...
Interesting post, the first time I've seen the NBSI for Freedom idea put into words. In my own mind I look at the two as mutually exclusive ways of life, as I believe for freedom to mean anything it has to apply to all people. Killing those who have not imposed on your freedom is a violation of theirs; thereby defeating the whole purpose.
I see how one could walk the path you've chosen though, it appears on the outset to be an attractive one, however do you spend much time considering where it will lead? You, and those you declare worthy of being your peers appear to be traveling down the road towards self styled Gods. Every civilization has fables of these all-powerful beings, none of which I really believed but given our trans human existence it is possible that a collective could become all powerful.
I can't deny the road to God-hood must be an exciting journey, but it will ultimatly end in a tragic failure, or yourselves becoming omnipotent. Is there another outcome of your en devours that I have overlooked? What do you believe will be the end result of your self-interest?
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