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Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:06:00 -
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EVE isnt as popular as other MMO's because only those who are hard enough to handle being greifed by sociopaths stay on long enough to fall in love with the game.
EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).
Now some may argue that this is good for EVE, as weak minded people have been so harrassed by sociopathic behaviour that they have been effectively run out of town, leaving only a hardened minority behind.
But that still doesnt change the perception that EVE gets in the gaming world at large. And that is a well deserved perception, as it is based upon years of fact.
It seems to me that CCP does not want EVE to get too popular. Im not even sure that Tranquility can handle millions of active players without immense capital investment.
But at the end of the day, what makes EVE so horrible ( its sociopathic players ), is also what makes it so good. EVE is hard. If EVE was easy, and everybody got along holding hands and singing koom bai ya (sp), it would be as boring as hell. No risk means rewards have no value.
The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.
Keep EVE hard. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
333
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:14:00 -
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Alyssa Yotosala wrote:
EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).
I'd like to see the psychological study that shows this, or are we simply using that word like it's been used so many times before? WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Irya Boone
Escadron leader
2
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:23:00 -
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EvE is not popular because no matter What you do , the size of your corp alliance , the strength of the corpomathood ( love the word)
YOU ARE and always be terribly alone . |
Ai Shun
654
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:24:00 -
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Posting to confirm that I played a Tauren Restoration Shaman, thus I can throw glowing leaves around and spend my afternoons chewing grass in the back-yard. |
Whitehound
126
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:27:00 -
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Why are you trying to talk the ugly reality of EVE pretty? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3383
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Posted - 2012.04.17 23:30:00 -
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IIRC CCP said a couple of years back that TQ could handle 100k online. That implies about double the subs we have now.
I'd be OK with seeing that Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Ai Shun
654
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:14:00 -
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Alyssa Yotosala wrote:EVE isnt as popular as other MMO's because only those who are hard enough to handle being greifed by sociopaths stay on long enough to fall in love with the game.
EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).
Now some may argue that this is good for EVE, as weak minded people have been so harrassed by sociopathic behaviour that they have been effectively run out of town, leaving only a hardened minority behind.
But that still doesnt change the perception that EVE gets in the gaming world at large. And that is a well deserved perception, as it is based upon years of fact.
It seems to me that CCP does not want EVE to get too popular. Im not even sure that Tranquility can handle millions of active players without immense capital investment.
But at the end of the day, what makes EVE so horrible ( its sociopathic players ), is also what makes it so good. EVE is hard. If EVE was easy, and everybody got along holding hands and singing koom bai ya (sp), it would be as boring as hell. No risk means rewards have no value.
The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.
Keep EVE hard.
This all falls flat because you assume the people playing the game are the same as their characters in-game. |
Lord Rixus
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:19:00 -
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EVE just needs more pew pew and less jumping, basically. |
Justice Comes
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:26:00 -
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Alyssa Yotosala wrote:The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.
I don't think one form of poor behavior should be held above another. And it's not like there aren't immature or childish or even hate-spewing players in Eve. Pul-lease. Google Chrome could not load the webpage because forums.eveonline.com took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your Internet connection. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
1016
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:29:00 -
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Eve has been reduced to dev hand holding, back in the day concord was tankable and didn't stop you from shooting more |
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
516
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Posted - 2012.04.18 00:41:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Eve has been reduced to dev hand holding, back in the day concord was tankable and didn't stop you from shooting more
Back in the day we didn't have to look at pictures of dumbasses with **** in their eyes either. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Ryiha
Elysian Navy
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:03:00 -
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Alyssa Yotosala wrote: bla bla sociopaths bla bla
Confirming you can diagnose sociopathy based on behaviour in a virtual world.
Anyone still playing eve should obviously be transported to a remote island to minimize our danger to society. |
Ch3244
Azule Dragoons Sspectre
81
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:08:00 -
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cuz only we r hardc0r3 enough |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
272
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:08:00 -
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"Sociopaths," are we?
That word, it doesn't mean what you think it means. The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.18 01:17:00 -
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Quote:Sociopathy
Hare writes that the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy may "reflect the user's views on the origins and determinates of the disorder." The term sociopathy may be preferred by sociologists that see the causes as due to social factors. The term psychopathy may be preferred by psychologists who see the causes as due to a combination of psychological, genetic, and environmental factors.
David T. Lykken proposed psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believed psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claimed that sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. In other words, psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental.
Quote:A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.
The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.
Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopathGÇÖs behaviour.
Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use. They may use these substances heavily as a way of heightening their antisocial personality. The sociopath sometimes sees the world on his or her own terms, as a place of high drama and risky thrills. The sociopath may suffer from low self esteem, and the use of alcohol and drugs is a way to diminish these feelings.
The causes of antisocial personality disorder are thought to be either genetic or environmental. Children who are influenced by antisocial parents may adopt these tendencies. Similarly, role models such as one's friends or peer group may also influence the behaviour pattern of a sociopath. Antisocial behaviour is more likely to occur in men than in women. About 1% of women have this disorder, while 3% of men are affected by it.
It is very rare for a person with antisocial personality disorder to seek help of their own accord. Treatment for antisocial personality disorder is usually through group psychotherapy. Sociopaths often find it helpful to talk through and recognize their problems with people they can trust. In a number of cases, this type of personality disorder tends to diminish from the age of 30 onwards.
If any of this sounds familiar, seek help
Quote:The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.
Likely the bits we see
BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMNED GAME
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
TITAN ONSCAN
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:28:00 -
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i'm sort of curious about this whole sociopath thing
Just the other day i profiled a corp and infiltrated it with my awox alt..
The ceo was warned twice about me but both times i was able to lie my way out of it and make her believe that it was them that was really trying to just grief me out of corp..
I got to know them pretending to be interested in what ever they were into and the 2nd day, I caught a 3-4hulks and an orca during a mining op.
I could not stop there though, for the next few days i then hunted the remaining corp members like wild game using locators, a neutral prober, and a cloaking tempest. I started catching the little guys and not killing their ship outright but I would use them as bait for their corp mates as they would warp in 1 by 1 and try to save him only to meet their doom.
My only regret was having but one point. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
206
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:39:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Alyssa Yotosala wrote:EVE isnt as popular as other MMO's because only those who are hard enough to handle being greifed by sociopaths stay on long enough to fall in love with the game.
EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. Hell, even CCP has some working for them ( Goon members ).
Now some may argue that this is good for EVE, as weak minded people have been so harrassed by sociopathic behaviour that they have been effectively run out of town, leaving only a hardened minority behind.
But that still doesnt change the perception that EVE gets in the gaming world at large. And that is a well deserved perception, as it is based upon years of fact.
It seems to me that CCP does not want EVE to get too popular. Im not even sure that Tranquility can handle millions of active players without immense capital investment.
But at the end of the day, what makes EVE so horrible ( its sociopathic players ), is also what makes it so good. EVE is hard. If EVE was easy, and everybody got along holding hands and singing koom bai ya (sp), it would be as boring as hell. No risk means rewards have no value.
The disturbed people who play this game make it hard, and that is a good thing in the end, as I would much rather have a game overrun by sociopathic behaviour than overrun with the immature childish hate-spweing behaviour you see in other "sing-along" MMO's and multiplayer console games.
Keep EVE hard. This all falls flat because you assume the people playing the game are the same as their characters in-game.
The game exists in reality therefore all players who are sociopahahahahahahahaha. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
206
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:40:00 -
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Hey, it's a "Goons are all sociopaths" thread. Who wants to take numbers on the OP being a Serene Repose alt? |
Ai Shun
655
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:41:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Hey, it's a "Goons are all sociopaths" thread. Who wants to take numbers on the OP being a Serene Repose alt?
I've got 5 on Scooter. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
294
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:41:00 -
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eve not being that big means my nerd pen15 does not feel so small... yay ganking! suicide sperm styles! PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
206
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:42:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Hey, it's a "Goons are all sociopaths" thread. Who wants to take numbers on the OP being a Serene Repose alt? I've got 5 on Scooter.
Man, scooter is totally a Goon alt. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:42:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Quote:Sociopathy
Hare writes that the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy may "reflect the user's views on the origins and determinates of the disorder." The term sociopathy may be preferred by sociologists that see the causes as due to social factors. The term psychopathy may be preferred by psychologists who see the causes as due to a combination of psychological, genetic, and environmental factors.
David T. Lykken proposed psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believed psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claimed that sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. In other words, psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental. Quote:A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.
The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.
Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopathGÇÖs behaviour.
Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use. They may use these substances heavily as a way of heightening their antisocial personality. The sociopath sometimes sees the world on his or her own terms, as a place of high drama and risky thrills. The sociopath may suffer from low self esteem, and the use of alcohol and drugs is a way to diminish these feelings.
The causes of antisocial personality disorder are thought to be either genetic or environmental. Children who are influenced by antisocial parents may adopt these tendencies. Similarly, role models such as one's friends or peer group may also influence the behaviour pattern of a sociopath. Antisocial behaviour is more likely to occur in men than in women. About 1% of women have this disorder, while 3% of men are affected by it.
It is very rare for a person with antisocial personality disorder to seek help of their own accord. Treatment for antisocial personality disorder is usually through group psychotherapy. Sociopaths often find it helpful to talk through and recognize their problems with people they can trust. In a number of cases, this type of personality disorder tends to diminish from the age of 30 onwards. If any of this sounds familiar, seek help Quote:The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another. Likely the bits we see BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMNED GAME
qft especially the last bit
and get it right... the word in no longer sociopath. Its antisocial personality disorder. The difference is like using the R word for people that have developmental disorders Its not PC tho in this case it may actually be innacurate now "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
206
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Posted - 2012.04.18 02:44:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Quote:Sociopathy
Hare writes that the difference between sociopathy and psychopathy may "reflect the user's views on the origins and determinates of the disorder." The term sociopathy may be preferred by sociologists that see the causes as due to social factors. The term psychopathy may be preferred by psychologists who see the causes as due to a combination of psychological, genetic, and environmental factors.
David T. Lykken proposed psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believed psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claimed that sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. In other words, psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental. Quote:A sociopath is a person who has antisocial personality disorder. The term sociopath is no longer used to describe this disorder. The sociopath is now described as someone with antisocial personality disorder.
The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another.
Although these symptoms are all present, they may not always be evident. Research has shown that the sociopath is usually a person with an abundance of charm and wit. He or she may appear friendly and considerate, but these attributes are usually superficial. They are used as a way of blinding the other person to the personal agenda behind the sociopathGÇÖs behaviour.
Many people with antisocial personality disorder frequently indulge in alcohol or drug use. They may use these substances heavily as a way of heightening their antisocial personality. The sociopath sometimes sees the world on his or her own terms, as a place of high drama and risky thrills. The sociopath may suffer from low self esteem, and the use of alcohol and drugs is a way to diminish these feelings.
The causes of antisocial personality disorder are thought to be either genetic or environmental. Children who are influenced by antisocial parents may adopt these tendencies. Similarly, role models such as one's friends or peer group may also influence the behaviour pattern of a sociopath. Antisocial behaviour is more likely to occur in men than in women. About 1% of women have this disorder, while 3% of men are affected by it.
It is very rare for a person with antisocial personality disorder to seek help of their own accord. Treatment for antisocial personality disorder is usually through group psychotherapy. Sociopaths often find it helpful to talk through and recognize their problems with people they can trust. In a number of cases, this type of personality disorder tends to diminish from the age of 30 onwards. If any of this sounds familiar, seek help Quote:The main characteristic of a sociopath is a disregard for the rights of others. Sociopaths are also unable to conform to what society defines as a normal personality. Antisocial tendencies are a big part of the sociopathGÇÖs personality. This pattern usually comes into evidence around the age of 15. If it is not treated, it can develop into adulthood.
Visible symptoms include physical aggression and the inability to hold down a steady job. The sociopath also finds it hard to sustain relationships and shows a lack of regret in his or her actions. A major personality behavior trait is the violation of the rights of others. This can appear as a disregard for the physical or sexual wellbeing of another. Likely the bits we see BECAUSE ITS A GODDAMNED GAME
I know that I can't wait to slaughter Jita residents while blasting Huey Lewis and the News.
It's hip to be square! |
Boston Bradley
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:15:00 -
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Here are my top 5 reasons for EVE being "unpopular".
#1: It's hard to be a solo player, because some missions and most PvP combat require multiple players. #2: Training is incredibly time consuming, most people would rather take on the task of "farming" then waiting. #3: Losing ships is incredibly easy for new players. #4: Operation and Selection of weapons & modules in general is a bit advanced compared to most games. #5: People are assholes in this game. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
133
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:19:00 -
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Boston Bradley wrote:Here are my top 5 reasons for EVE being "unpopular".
#1: It's hard to be a solo player, because some missions and most PvP combat require multiple players. #2: Training is incredibly time consuming, most people would rather take on the task of "farming" then waiting. #3: Losing ships is incredibly easy for new players. #4: Operation and Selection of weapons & modules in general is a bit advanced compared to most games. #5: People are assholes in this game.
1.) what mission? Unless youre talking 5s, I can solo anything 4 in a Drake 3.) Easy for everyone if youre in the wrong place or stupid 5.) in every MMO ever
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6168
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:31:00 -
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Alyssa Yotosala wrote:EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. No, it's not. It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality, and who exhibit feelings of victimisation or persecution along with poor emotional controlGǪ almost suggesting some form of BPD or schizophrenia.
Sweeping nonsensical diagnoses are fun. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Elyssa MacLeod
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alyssa Yotosala wrote:EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. No, it's not. It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality, and who exhibit feelings of victimisation or persecution along with poor emotional controlGǪ almost suggesting some form of BPD or schizophrenia.
I actually agree. Mittens seems to have a signficant difficulty with that reality/game thing.
"im drunk" defense roflmao
GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.
Where is your God now carebear? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
296
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Posted - 2012.04.18 03:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alyssa Yotosala wrote:EVE is chock full of sociopaths. This is known. No, it's not. It is full of people who cannot separate game from reality, and who exhibit feelings of victimisation or persecution along with poor emotional controlGǪ almost suggesting some form of BPD or schizophrenia. Sweeping nonsensical diagnoses are fun.
you know neckbears would have sum it up in less words yeah know... no need getting all Shakespearean with them... PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6175
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Posted - 2012.04.18 04:00:00 -
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Elyssa MacLeod wrote:I actually agree. Mittens seems to have a signficant difficulty with that reality/game thing.
"im drunk" defense roflmao You mean the defence he didn't use since he explicitly said it didn't excuse anything?
Yes, people who keep bringing up that GÇ£defenceGÇ¥ in spite of the fact that it wasn't actually invoked have a hard time separating reality and their own imagination. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.04.18 04:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Elyssa MacLeod wrote:I actually agree. Mittens seems to have a signficant difficulty with that reality/game thing.
"im drunk" defense roflmao You mean the defence he didn't use since he explicitly said it didn't excuse anything? Yes, people who keep bringing up that GÇ£defenceGÇ¥ in spite of the fact that it wasn't actually invoked have a hard time separating reality and their own imagination.
interesting, Elissia's and my imagination were on EVE-Radio. Had that been true it would have been him being permabanned and screaming in defiance. lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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