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herasin
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.13 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Thug Ok. To make it short. I really dont know, who would even came with idea, to open registration to 6th tournament @ 12.00 GMT. There is alot of people, who play eve, dont have access to PC's while at work. When CCP opened registration process, I was busy in the university, and i was unable to register straight @ 12.00 GMT. I received few calls on my phone from fellow corp members, regarding "give acc and pw, we will register". Keeping in mind, that CCP is bashing players for account sharing i responded, that i will do it myself.
According to my transaction log history, i transferred 500m isk to CCP Mindstar @ 14.23 EVE time of 19th dec. Now - i`m unable to see my team amongst registred teams. Gentlemens, organizing those events - is pain, and i know it. Still i`m unable to get, why you turned registration into "press button earlier than your opponent".
I`m here to propose slight system change. Top 16 teams from previous tournament = getting into group stage. Everybody rest is fighting each other, using single elimination system, till we will have 64 teams, who will compete for main prize. Thank you.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2009.01.13 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Charlie Luciano it is a joke seeing a leader of a big alliance whining just because he couldn't be bothered sorting out one of his directors being alliance leader so that person could sign up his alliance
only ceo of executor corp can sign his alliance up, transfering that to a director seems a bit extreme over something like alliance tournament .. |
Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere If you wanna argue the alliance tournament is drifting further away from "real" alliances, then why aren't you questioning The Five? or Green Alliance from last tourney? Or the 4 spots held for whoever the plex runners deem their champion from FW? Most of those entries are probably place holder alliances and they will be populated by the time the tournament begins, but even if they aren't, <50 member alliances have done well in the past, and with the rules this tourney, they could easily go all the way & win this one.
I totally am questioning phoney shell alliances like The Five and (as JS LiamElms pointed out) Prime Orbital Systems. Those are the worst. The point is entering the alliance tourney should not be a simple case of paying 1 bil + 500m deposit. Just as entering the Olympics isn't as simple as me declaring my back yard a sovereign state.
It should be for real alliances that are relevant politically & militarily all year round. And no I'm not discriminating against small alliances, or empire alliances, let's have lots of them it makes for good fun and it's a very important channel for them to gain recognition. But there needs to be some minimum criteria. Exactly what I don't know but here's food-for-thought:
Alliance logo submission process
Quote: Only logos from alliances that have been in effect for six months or more and have over 150 active members will be accepted.
CONCORD Makes Revolutionary Statement of Recognition For Alliances as Starbase Components Hit SCC Markets
Quote: In a surprise announcement at 12:00 EVT today Irhes Angireh, Head of CONCORD's Inner Circle, declared CONCORD to be in full official support of the outer rim alliances. Further, she stated that official provision had been made for alliances to, for the first time in history, become recorded entities on the level of nation-states.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.01.13 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 13/01/2009 11:56:27
Quote: Bad luck to the teams that missed their entry. We did give apt notice for teams to be able to complete the signup process appropriately, and as Eve is a global game there is no time which we can set that can accommodate everyone perfectly. I would like to advise, though, that if you see a potential rules problem or issue that it would be a good idea to mention the issue in advance of it arising rather than waiting to see if you got in before making a complaint. I would like to point out that many of the alliances that you guys are upset not to see didn't even try to sign up. Also, when the registration process dropped temporarily, it was only down for 15-20 minutes and there was an immediate post on this forum informing of what was happening, so no one should have lost any time there although of course it was not ideal. This is not the 'big alliance tournament' nor the '0.0 spaceholding alliance tournament'. This is the Alliance Tournament and all alliances, big and small, are welcome to compete. We have made a major step up from last time in terms of teams entered and we are really looking forward to this new tournament as I know many others are. Good luck to all the teams involved and again, bad luck to the teams that missed it.
For what its worth I think the organizers did as well as they could with the ruleset this time around but I believe you should consider opening up the tournament to an unlimited number of entries next time and just have an extra round to whittle the numbers down to 64 as a pre-qualfier. Even if this round is not formally commentated etc - its better than having participation in the tournament determined by an arbitrary first come first served sign up process.
While (as I said earlier in the thread) I usually manage to sign up pretty well from the laptop I use for work from anywhere - it was conceivable that I'd have lost connectivity or gotten dragged into a truly important meeting and would have been as irritated as anyone else here for missing the chance to compete on a pure timing issue.
Nothing can be done about it this time - but I think it should factor into the planning for the next tournament and with Eve Online growing all the time its obvious that demand for tournament entry will only rise. You guys are going to need a way to give everyone a fair shot at the big time!
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Tnam
Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Blazde
I totally am questioning phoney shell alliances like The Five and (as JS LiamElms pointed out) Prime Orbital Systems. Those are the worst. The point is entering the alliance tourney should not be a simple case of paying 1 bil + 500m deposit. Just as entering the Olympics isn't as simple as me declaring my back yard a sovereign state.
Really, there's no problem with this, a lot of people in Eve aren't in big alliances and pew pew all day with good tactics and good skills. I don't see why they should be excluded over some elitist *******s about my alliances is bigger and better etc... If people bring a good fight and provide good entertainment for everyone watching then that's all good. In Church we know we haven't got the isk of Morsus Mihi and we know we don't really do anything in a blob... I think we have like 100 members and we have no space, does that mean we should not get to fight? When all we do is 24/7 pvp in gangs that aren't dissimilar in size to a tourney team?
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Tiger Trader
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Charlie Luciano Didn't we have the exact same situation last tournament with several of the bigger alliances whining about not getting to participate because they didn't bother preparing for something as simple as signing up?
We didn't sign up for this years tournament, so I wont presume to know how the sign up process has changed for this time around, but all in all it still feels immensely like a dTja vu, reading this post. It may not have been perfect but just like last year it wasn't because of lack of information on CCPs part. It was once again a lack of preparation from the whining parties in most cases, and why the hell should CCP continously change the format of the tournament just because YOU couldn't be bothered changing something in the alliance to be able to sign up for the tournament?
Fake EDIT: I know some people had problems signing up, and while I would understand a whinepost from them, it is a joke seeing a leader of a big alliance whining just because he couldn't be bothered sorting out one of his directors being alliance leader so that person could sign up his alliance
Totally agree mate, plenty of notice to sort things out. NoOne has a god given right to be in this tournement. The alliance's that deemed it important enough to take days off work, transer executor etc etc and sit there clicking apply deserve to be in it for there commitment.
Good luck to all involved, lets hope its fun fun fun
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:12:00 -
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got to agree with ET, next time i would love to see a preliminary knockout stage with unlimited numbers. i think its a real shame that not everyone who wanted in could get in. |
WShatner
Wonderfull Toys
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: WShatner on 13/01/2009 12:16:59 Evil Thug and others, don't come whining on the forums about how your uber mega-blob alliance didn't get in if you can't sign up on time. You had plenty of warning on sign-up time, and you could have complained BEFORE sign-ups if you found the timing to be troublesome.
Instead, you waited until the list was announced, and ONLY because YOUR alliance did not get in. Basically, you and your alliance epically failed and are now trying to blame this on CCP.
Try not to cry too much when PL wins.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: WShatner Edited by: WShatner on 13/01/2009 12:16:59 Evil Thug and others, don't come whining on the forums about how your uber mega-blob alliance didn't get in if you can't sign up on time. You had plenty of warning on sign-up time, and you could have complained BEFORE sign-ups if you found the timing to be troublesome.
Instead, you waited until the list was announced, and ONLY because YOUR alliance did not get in. Basically, you and your alliance epically failed and are now trying to blame this on CCP.
Try not to cry too much when PL wins.
Writing in purple text doesn't make your point any stronger. Don't personalize this and stop trolling.
ET has proposed a solution that would be to the common interest of ANY alliance getting a shot at the tourney in the future.
I've never failed to register in time for SF - but I'm fully in support of ET's proposal because I know full well that rl could screw me on sign up day and I'd much rather need to get through a pre-qualifier to reach the final 64 than lose our chance entirely to an arbitary sign-up time and the whims of the internet.
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:27:00 -
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CCP Would like a lot of EVE to watch would be my guess. With major alliances not able to join, that's a lot of potential viewers that will probably not care. If I have no vested interest in the tournament, I have no reason to watch. I think a lot of others will feel the same.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak CCP Would like a lot of EVE to watch would be my guess. With major alliances not able to join, that's a lot of potential viewers that will probably not care. If I have no vested interest in the tournament, I have no reason to watch. I think a lot of others will feel the same.
heh not sure how much CCP actually care about this, they probably wouldn't even have done another tournament if i hadn't called them out on it at the fanfest panel -_-
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Tnam
Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak CCP Would like a lot of EVE to watch would be my guess. With major alliances not able to join, that's a lot of potential viewers that will probably not care. If I have no vested interest in the tournament, I have no reason to watch. I think a lot of others will feel the same.
Tbh most ppl will watch the tourney regardless of who is involved because its always good entertainment I think...
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Cyan Blackadder
CBI
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cyan Blackadder on 13/01/2009 13:16:02
Originally by: CCP Claw Bad luck to the teams that missed their entry.
We did give apt notice for teams to be able to complete the signup process appropriately, and as Eve is a global game there is no time which we can set that can accommodate everyone perfectly. I would like to advise, though, that if you see a potential rules problem or issue that it would be a good idea to mention the issue in advance of it arising rather than waiting to see if you got in before making a complaint.
I would like to point out that many of the alliances that you guys are upset not to see didn't even try to sign up. Also, when the registration process dropped temporarily, it was only down for 15-20 minutes and there was an immediate post on this forum informing of what was happening, so no one should have lost any time there although of course it was not ideal.
This is not the 'big alliance tournament' nor the '0.0 spaceholding alliance tournament'. This is the Alliance Tournament and all alliances, big and small, are welcome to compete. We have made a major step up from last time in terms of teams entered and we are really looking forward to this new tournament as I know many others are.
Good luck to all the teams involved and again, bad luck to the teams that missed it.
In other words you are saying CCP did everything fine, no problems detected anywhere, Removed. Please be civil in your replies. Navigator and if you don't like it get lost and stop living. |
Major Sails
Battleships and Luxury yachts Old Intentions
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw Bad luck to the teams that missed their entry.
We did give apt notice for teams to be able to complete the signup process appropriately, and as Eve is a global game there is no time which we can set that can accommodate everyone perfectly. I would like to advise, though, that if you see a potential rules problem or issue that it would be a good idea to mention the issue in advance of it arising rather than waiting to see if you got in before making a complaint.
I would like to point out that many of the alliances that you guys are upset not to see didn't even try to sign up. Also, when the registration process dropped temporarily, it was only down for 15-20 minutes and there was an immediate post on this forum informing of what was happening, so no one should have lost any time there although of course it was not ideal.
This is not the 'big alliance tournament' nor the '0.0 spaceholding alliance tournament'. This is the Alliance Tournament and all alliances, big and small, are welcome to compete. We have made a major step up from last time in terms of teams entered and we are really looking forward to this new tournament as I know many others are.
Good luck to all the teams involved and again, bad luck to the teams that missed it.
That is indeed some bad luck there. But then again, the system didn't really offer a fair chance to many. Hell, opening registration for a day and then either going for a last-man-standing-duke-it-out-fight to see who get to fight in the spotlight later on. Or, a simple luck of the draw, where all teams get drawn out of a hat and we find out that way who gets to play.
Tha latter one is a horrible option tbqh, but at least it gives every team a chance of the odds ingame, rather than current system, where odds are based out of game.
CCP Claw, you really need to think your thoughts through, cause that post of yours is full of fail mate |
Captain Thunk
Vale Tudo.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:36:00 -
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CCP gave a week or two advance warning before signups opened - if a similar format is followed next time then perhaps allow the Alliance Executor to nominate someone else to perform the signup process - not ideal, but helps people who have timezone issues to delegate to a character who isn't so constrained.
Ultimately though, there's always going to be dissatisfied people regarding signups, prizes, rules and anything else related to the tournament.
Captain Thunk |
Evil Edna
The Priory
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:44:00 -
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thug is right on this, an arbitrary time for fastest to push button gets a place isnt a good system in a global game, where people have work commitments.
expecting people to stay up until 3 or 4am, or take a day off work just to sign up for a game is frankly absurd.
either the kind of system ET is talking about needs to be introduced in the future, or signups should be able to do be done by directors as well as CEOs, making is probable than in an alliance there will be someone around at the time signups open. |
Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.01.13 13:49:00 -
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ET is right. We got in because our executor sat there and registered right at 12:00. Not the most useful way to determine who "gets in."
Please have everyone subscribe whenever they feel like it during the subscription period, and pick 64 random alliances from all of them. No "first come first serve".
Thanks.
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Mes Ren
No Trademark Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.13 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: QwaarJet We did sign up, we missed out on payment because the rules require one person and one person only to send the fee in time, which means if that person is out of action for a couple of days due to RL stuff then an entire alliance screwed.
The rules need to be changed for signups so that at least the team captain can send the fee or another CEO.
There are too many Mickey Mouse teams in this year's tournament and not enough top tier players. I honestly expect Pandemic Legion to waltz to victory unless they get hit by a piece of bad luck. I can only see HUN, CAIN or maybe Evoke challenging them.
I will say the same thing that was suggested after last year's farcical organization : Player Council. We have the CSM for general EVE issues, why not a Player Council for the tournament?
No offense, but I'm a little confused. You are saying that the one and only person that can sign you up was able to register you, but was unable to send the isk? How did that happen exactly? It's not like we didn't know that we needed to send the isk within 24hrs beforehand. Why didn't he simply send the isk at the same time he registered? For that matter, if some kind of emergency came about, why didn't he contact someone else so they could contact ccp explaining "there was some kind of rl emergency - here is the isk, plz except it?" CCP aren't ogres, they even said to contact them if there was some kind of issue. It sounds to me more like the someone who signed you up simply forgot to send the isk. ________________________
No Trademark -- Mes Ren, Mes Builder -- -- CEO --
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Strathis Mikluk
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik ET is right. We got in because our executor sat there and registered right at 12:00. Not the most useful way to determine who "gets in."
Please have everyone subscribe whenever they feel like it during the subscription period, and pick 64 random alliances from all of them. No "first come first serve".
Thanks.
F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5
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Malar
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.01.13 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: QwaarJet We did sign up, we missed out on payment because the rules require one person and one person only to send the fee in time, which means if that person is out of action for a couple of days due to RL stuff then an entire alliance screwed.
The rules need to be changed for signups so that at least the team captain can send the fee or another CEO.
There are too many Mickey Mouse teams in this year's tournament and not enough top tier players. I honestly expect Pandemic Legion to waltz to victory unless they get hit by a piece of bad luck. I can only see HUN, CAIN or maybe Evoke challenging them.
I will say the same thing that was suggested after last year's farcical organization : Player Council. We have the CSM for general EVE issues, why not a Player Council for the tournament?
Come on now.. theres lots of mickey mouse teams for sure, but if you compare this lineup to the AT5/AT4 lineup, you will see that only few of the major players are missing, but instead of them you got 40-50 jokers..
The difference between well known alliances and these jokers is crucial: you know what to expect from the known entities, but you have no clue what the jokers will do. Need i remind you to a joker team from AT4, nah.. if anything, then the random mickey mouse teams only make me sweat more, i certainly do not feel safer because of them.
I think this will be the hardest AT yet.. not only do we have twice the participants, but also a set of rules which makes it hard to preserve your forces and go for safe victories. You will have to pick tactics for every match, that are risky and kind of a rock-paper-scissor(ish).
The last two tournaments were mainly won by out of the box thinking.. This one will be won by in game and out of game skills and coordination. Then again, even with the best plans and skills you will see teams running into the exact opposite of their lineup and suffering epic losses they have no way to avoid. Luck will be a much bigger factor this time around.
We will see what this tournament bring. For now theres only one thing we can be farily certain of: there will be lots of ships... and lots of wrecks as well. --------------------------------------------- *Comments in this post are mine and mine only* |
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KTOZ
Caldari Evil Plankton
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:26:00 -
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Despite the fact that we are in the tourney, i admit that this is not the best system to register alliences in. But we should see that CCP's role isnt that easy to..
the intrest to the tournement is increasing each year and so the numbers who wants to compete.
I think the fact that the first 12 who succeed in the past tourneys gets in directly was a good step and its the ONLY fact which should decide which allience is truely big, good, kick ass etc. and not how big territory they hold nor their member count ( please note there is many " big alliences" in the game that half of their members have no clue about PvP and they fly ravens with cloacking devices 24/24..)
And for all those moaning now becoz they arent in, your are right and there s something wrong, maybe for the next tourney they should put more then 64 slot. But you accepted those rules as everyone else, and when you left out you complain, thats not right neither.
Saying **** alliences are in and we, as eve's uber lag fest, despite our super performence on the past tourneys, are out is just wrong.. |
Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:32:00 -
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I think the only main issue really is he whole "tournament team" thing which seems to be getting more and more popular. I too believe that the alliance tournament should be for alliances rather than for some random group of people who specifically formed an alliance of 5 people so they could get in etc.
I dont agree with setting a minimum size limit though that would stop a number of excellent small alliances joining in. |
Strathis Mikluk
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Strathis Mikluk on 13/01/2009 15:33:25
Originally by: Malar ....
This this this this.
Just because you don't recognize a team straight off, doesn't make them bad, or any worse off. Alliances rise and fall every day.
I look forward to seeing what each and every small team can come up with. Sure there'll be the **** people as there are with each tourney, but that's what makes it interesting, sometimes all it takes is a bit of luck you get the niche you're aiming for. |
Yoh Sha
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Claw Bad luck to the teams that missed their entry.
We did give apt notice for teams to be able to complete the signup process appropriately, and as Eve is a global game there is no time which we can set that can accommodate everyone perfectly. I would like to advise, though, that if you see a potential rules problem or issue that it would be a good idea to mention the issue in advance of it arising rather than waiting to see if you got in before making a complaint.
I would like to point out that many of the alliances that you guys are upset not to see didn't even try to sign up. Also, when the registration process dropped temporarily, it was only down for 15-20 minutes and there was an immediate post on this forum informing of what was happening, so no one should have lost any time there although of course it was not ideal.
This is not the 'big alliance tournament' nor the '0.0 spaceholding alliance tournament'. This is the Alliance Tournament and all alliances, big and small, are welcome to compete. We have made a major step up from last time in terms of teams entered and we are really looking forward to this new tournament as I know many others are.
Good luck to all the teams involved and again, bad luck to the teams that missed it.
So the championship is not following the idea to gather all skilled teams within the event? Is it the official CCP oppinion? I hardly can understand why a championship with an open status for everyone has so much restrictions regarding participants. Maybe you should be more preciece in the juridicial statements and change championship status? |
JS LiamElms
Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.13 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: JS LiamElms on 13/01/2009 15:53:49 i think this thread is more whine than anything...
tbh, yeah be nice to see some of the major alliances in, but then someone highlighted that if these alliances can do alarm clock ops why can they stay up. I remember staying up with beers and mates waiting for a big fight to happen on TV at about 2am uk time but prime in america. So the time thing is really not an issue? some people in some part of the world will lose out, so basing on GMt seems the best option.
regards the small alliances, come on... everyone 'drafts' outsiders into thier alliance to get the top skilled players possible. Suddenly we all might have a chance to be included. too many old players whining cause they can't compete or they don't have their msn buddies alliance in the tourny they can join... i think people will see a lot of new names and not the usual msn buddy group fighting in an overblown self importance alliance!
oh, and maybe these smaller alliances want the publicity to build their numbers to the size of -A- or bob..... they need to start somewhere and will current mechanics the is no way they can get out to 0.0 while -a- blob everything then leave vasts empty space to be farmed by 1 or 2 plexers paying over blown rent. |
Tiger Trader
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yoh Sha[/quote
So the championship is not following the idea to gather all skilled teams within the event? Is it the official CCP oppinion? I hardly can understand why a championship with an open status for everyone has so much restrictions regarding participants. Maybe you should be more preciece in the juridicial statements and change championship status?
STOP whining...you had the same chance as everyone else to register and you only have yourselves to blame....get over it......oh and good luck to everyone who got it, lets hope its fun |
Yoh Sha
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tiger Trader STOP whining...you had the same chance as everyone else to register and you only have yourselves to blame....get over it......oh and good luck to everyone who got it, lets hope its fun
Stop trolling then maybe, mr "newbcorp"? My point is quiet simple: championship is to be competetive, the main idea is to compete and the champion is the best of all participans but wait, registration was for a few minutes, it was "impossible" to make a team registration to take place for 24h so there will be no problems for any country (as CCP told us in this thread it is an international game, right? why the time was chosen for a certain countries?). |
Tiger Trader
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Yoh Sha
Originally by: Tiger Trader STOP whining...you had the same chance as everyone else to register and you only have yourselves to blame....get over it......oh and good luck to everyone who got it, lets hope its fun
Stop trolling then maybe, mr "newbcorp"? My point is quiet simple: championship is to be competetive, the main idea is to compete and the champion is the best of all participans but wait, registration was for a few minutes, it was "impossible" to make a team registration to take place for 24h so there will be no problems for any country (as CCP told us in this thread it is an international game, right? why the time was chosen for a certain countries?).
Can you contradict yourself some more? You said its impossible to make it 24hr registration, and then say why chose for certain countries?? Its "impossible" to keep everyone happy, so CCP set the rules and people do there best to adapt to said rules. Some people adated and some people didn't.
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KTOZ
Caldari Evil Plankton
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: KTOZ on 13/01/2009 17:08:03
Originally by: Yoh Sha So the championship is not following the idea to gather all skilled teams within the event? Is it the official CCP oppinion?[/quote
QUOTING Mindstar /* : Fifth Alliance Tournament finalists - 8 slots. The top 8 teams from the fifth tournament will be automatically granted entry. Fourth Alliance Tournament finalists - 4 slots. The top 4 teams from the fourth tournament will automatically be granted entry. */
I think the official CCP oppinion about the gathering the skilled teams are clearly underlined here.
And unfortunatly some alliences are in and some not, is so hard to assume it?
why the number of your cap ships or how big fleets you can formup should change it? What about other skilled pvpers who got enough of big fleet fights and pos warfare and having fun in small scale PvP? that makes them unskilled Pvpers? Hun reloaded was not that well known b4 they won the 4th tourney right? but they kicked many "big alliences" out. Lets give ppl their chances and dont cry after the train is gone.. |
Lady Alystra
Amarr Big Bong Quantum Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Alystra on 13/01/2009 17:13:01 Just a few thoughts...
There is a HUGE difference between doing alarm-clock ops with a group where any one member of the group missing is just a member missing and forcing an alliance leader to be available at a certain time exactly.
In this case, the leader of one of the biggest alliances in Eve was actually doing something in RL which, strangely, was more important. Attending university classes. Bettering himself. So if he wanted his alliance to enter, he should either hand over CEO of the executor corp of a very large alliance to someone else or skip university? I am the CEO of the executor corp of a rather small alliance and there is no way I would hand over my CEO position to anyone but a very close RL friend - and the change of CEO takes time, is a hassle all over. It should not have to be necessary to enter a tournament!!!
I think the real whiners are the persons who are attacking ET on the fact that he choose university over applying @12 - applying 2+ hours later should not mean that AAA was not eligible for the tournament, really.
Why isn't there a draft of the open spots between all registered in a certain time period?
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