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Sunlord Topui
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Posted - 2009.01.02 22:08:00 -
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Is bomb deployment worth training and in which situations are bomb most useful? I know they are supposed to be used agains enemies in thight group but is there any other handy tactics for bombs? Also, I'd like to hear your opinions and experiences with using bombs.
Sorry for all possible typos and other mistakes. Thanks in advance!
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.02 22:10:00 -
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not really worth it imo, tho that void bomb can be fun.
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Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:00:00 -
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What Sid said.
With everyone fitting DD tanks, it takes an unreasonable amount of bombs to destroy enemy battleship fleet blobs (10 to 15 bombs), and only in 30km diameter spheres.
If bomb launcher reactivation delays were much shorter, and bomb flight speeds faster, it might be more practical to use bombers as bombers. Reduction in bomb costs and cargo space would also go a long way to helping this.
I personally am not familiar with any successful uses of bombs or bomber waves to destroy or break-up enemy fleets. As far as I know bombs have found their greatest use in destroying enemy fighter swarms, and in situational comedic moments where luck allowed for the bombs to destroy some smaller ships.
As it stands void bombs are, if my understanding is correct, the most useful of the bomb categories, as support craft and BS's can find themselves completely capped out from a group of bombers lauching a wave of voids.
As a direct destructive force however, bombs are severely limited. They were pre-nerfed to hell when introduced and have not since been buffed in any significant way save cost reduction (lol at initial 20mil ISK cost per bomb).
A list of improvements that I would like to see to give bombers the role of anti-fleet area-denial ships.
- Reduction of reactivation delay on bomb launcher from 160 seconds to 80 seconds (60 seconds with bomb deployment to V).
- Reduction of cargo volume of bombs to 1/3 current (current volume = 75m^3, should be 25m^3)
- Double the bomb flight speed (from 1,250 m/s to 2,500 m/s)
- Reduce bomb flight time to 10 seconds (currently 15)
- Change the Covert speed bonus from 125% per level to 175% per level (making them actually kinda speedy while cloaked) or remove this bonus entirely and allow them to fit covert-ops cloaks
- Increase the effect of lockbreaker bombs to a strength of 16 (currently jam strength 12.5)
- Increase bomb hitpoints by 40 so they can be used in waves of 6 - 7 rather than 5
- Reduce the signature radius of bombs from 400m to 250m
This is just my wishlist.
I would love to see bombers made into viable fleet threats. Then you would need interceptors to, you guessed it, intercept the bombers or the bombs, or high scan res destroyers or cruisers for the same purpose. I would even be prefectly happy with a reduction in stealth bomber agility so that launching bombs and then warping on-grid (the only viable way to lauch bombs) leaves the bomber somewhat more vulnerable with a longer time to initiate warp.
Until such a time, I will just keep dreaming. --
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Apoctasy
Carebear Poachers plc
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Posted - 2009.01.03 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Wannabehero stuff
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.01.03 04:51:00 -
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The only time I have seen bombs really used is to maybe pop an unsuspecting inty or dictor on a gate or station camp and usually the bomber dies as well.
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Neyro7830
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.01.03 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Wannabehero epic
I sat back for a sec after reading this and thought about it.
And decided you are my new hero. Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer |
Rehmes
Minmatar Fractured Core
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wannabehero Ideas
/signed
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SirMoric
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.03 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: SirMoric on 03/01/2009 06:41:18 You could make bombs cloaked, only discoverable within a certain range of objects or by EW-frigates/cruisers/battleships at a longer range, maybe already upon release from the bombers.
That would make combat using bombers/bombs more versatile, and gangs would need EW-ships to a greater extend.
Example: You see a few bombers decloak, fire a volley of missiles, then cloak again. Okay, no real damage done and you think you're safe.... until you spot the bombs..... And die a horribly, screamly, tornly death in the vacuum of space.... except for the screamly part....
rgds
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Adaera
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Posted - 2009.01.03 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Adaera on 03/01/2009 12:18:16
Originally by: SirMoric Edited by: SirMoric on 03/01/2009 06:41:18 You could make bombs cloaked, only discoverable within a certain range of objects or by EW-frigates/cruisers/battleships at a longer range, maybe already upon release from the bombers.
That would make combat using bombers/bombs more versatile, and gangs would need EW-ships to a greater extend.
Example: You see a few bombers decloak, fire a volley of missiles, then cloak again. Okay, no real damage done and you think you're safe.... until you spot the bombs..... And die a horribly, screamly, tornly death in the vacuum of space.... except for the screamly part....
rgds
Forgot who posted this, but wasn't me and it gave me a laugh, but they ran into a situation like this:
*gate camp - enemy bomber appears* guy1: hey a bomb guy2: lol guy3: haha that must've been pricey *boom* guy1: hey i'm dead guy2: same here guy3: WTF
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Gerdan BloodELF
Shade.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 13:46:00 -
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I tell you a story.
I live in 0.0 and have lived there for a number of years.
since they have been deployed i have been bombed once.
it was a very plesant experiance.
buy an imorral dragon guy called jvol i belive his name was me and some shade guys where sitting on a gate when all of a sudden his sb uncloacked and then a bomb and i must say a few of us on vent went WTF!?
those who know shade know we live for pvp.
in all my years i have never been bombed but boom away it went and blew up about 1\3 of my sheild and we killed his manti the his friend tried but his didnt go off.
i have to say that i sent him 10 million for his ship because it was an overaull plesant experiance if we hadnt all pulled our drones he would have killed em al.
i think my point is that they arent functional on anything but inties and some cruisers's
i have seen a killmail a month ago i forget on which borad but a bobmer got 6 inties with a concussion one maybe sot i dont remember.
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Sunlord Topui
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Posted - 2009.01.03 21:32:00 -
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Thanks for all the info and opinions. I think i might train bomb deployment later but not quite yet.
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