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Lokia Enroch
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Posted - 2009.01.02 04:30:00 -
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Can anyone tell me if the Omnidirectional Tracking Link actually increases my drones DPS, vs say a Target Painter?
A Target Painter makes my Medium and Heavy drones hit smaller targets as though they were larger. And I know the effect from that. But how often do drones have tracking and range issues? How does fitting this module over a target painter compare? I'm hoping to eventually not have to use small scout drones, and rely on medium and Heavies.
Can anyone assist me in answering this question? Perhaps point me in the right direction.
Thanks, Lokia Enroch
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:08:00 -
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Omni tracking link increases your drone tracking and can substatioally increase your effective drone dps due to the much increased chances of excellent hits. Max your drone damage and support skills on a max bonus drone ship and a single omni will significantly increase your drone dps to an almost lulz amount.
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Omni tracking link increases your drone tracking and can substatioally increase your effective drone dps due to the much increased chances of excellent hits. Max your drone damage and support skills on a max bonus drone ship and a single omni will significantly increase your drone dps to an almost lulz amount.
While meant well (?) this is wrong.
When people talk about drone dps they often just use the numbers from EFT. An ogre II does 75 thermal dps. All those number are theoretical dps. In any 'real' TQ situation the actual damage over time done will be different:
- travel time - the actual hits (light, normal, wrecking, misses) - the target's resistances
An omnidirectional mod increases your drones' tracking and optimal, meaning it's more likely you will reach/easier to reach your theoretical dps. Especially for sentry drones. Since the module doesn't affect speed, travel time will not change and tracking on drones kinda makes it unlikely a medium drone + omnidirectional will do more to a frigate than light drones without a module (let alone with one). The only way to increase drone theoretical dps is with skills and for sentry drones the damage rigs.
If you use sentry drone fit one, otherwise you're probably better off with a painter (if in group), ECCM, extra tackle/speed gear, cap booster, tracking disurptor, etc.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 02/01/2009 11:47:35
Originally by: Keitaro Baka While meant well (?) this is wrong.
Think about it for a second. You go from light, normal, wrecking, miss, light, light, normal, excellent, etc etc to normal, excellent, normal, excellent, normal, excellent, excellent, wrecking, normal, excellent, excellent, etc etc. now without even having to go ingame and test it out which set of drones is doing moar dps? Also this only seems to work the best with max skills and max ship bonus on med drones so maybe its some sort of glitch? I just know that top skill med drones go bat**** crazy with an omni on a max bonus ship.
edit. could also be why CCP nerfed med drone tracking maybe. TBH I havent tried to do a combat log with them since then and it might have been fixed though I still seem to melt stuff. :(
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Arthello
Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:51:00 -
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War scramblers and webifiers also has an indirect effect on drone dps by slowing down your intended victim. If you can hold down your target sufficiently there's more dps to be had with ogres than with warriors.
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jockodiounto
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:20:00 -
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Is it possible to see how much damage your drones are doing to a target??
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:25:00 -
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You have to have a mate or second account to set the drones on so they can open the combat log to see what your drones are hitting for. If you get him to try different ships and setups you can build up a nice list of how your drones will do vs various ship setups.
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jockodiounto
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:28:00 -
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Ah okay. So there is no hidden setting in the combat log to show drone damage.
Thanks
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Tesha Muron
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Posted - 2009.01.02 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tesha Muron on 02/01/2009 16:32:04
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Lokia Enroch
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Posted - 2009.01.02 19:41:00 -
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Well, I wasn't too worried about increasing the theoretical DPS of my drones. But in fitting my ship, I want to take the best module for the job. So it would seem that the Omnidirectional is better made for Sentry Drones. And I guess I'll just be better off fitting some more tank, and just using light drones to take out frigs with.
But I don't know much about Sentry drones. Can anyone tell me the point of them? Looking at their stats, they seem to be a drone that has decent range, and somewhat poor tracking. I noticed that drone rigs for +damage only affect sentry drones, so I'm guessing they could end up doing more damage than normal ones? Can anyone enlighten me?
BTW, thanks for the replies so far. I do appreciate it.
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Rilwar
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.02 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Keitaro Baka In any 'real' TQ situation the actual damage over time done will be different:
- travel time
That's just stupid.
Just because a Ogre II takes 9 years to get to the target, doesn't mean it's going to do any less DPS when it gets there. ---O-H--S-H-*-T---
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Karma InnRuin
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Posted - 2009.01.02 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rilwar
Originally by: Keitaro Baka In any 'real' TQ situation the actual damage over time done will be different:
- travel time
That's just stupid.
Just because a Ogre II takes 9 years to get to the target, doesn't mean it's going to do any less DPS when it gets there.
It's because it take 9 years to get to target that it does less DPS for the engagement, we all know heavies and sentries do comparable DPS when engaging.
In a fleet assign your Sentries to a fast locking ship that tackles within you range and watch the damage rain down.
Heavies are only really good if you can drop them right on top of your target.
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Lokia Enroch
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:31:00 -
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So Sentries do pretty good damage because they are applying it immediately, upon being deployed? Are their any range concerns, to prevent tracking problems? And in a mission, as opposed to PvP, are they effective at all?
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Sarciss
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.02 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lokia Enroch So Sentries do pretty good damage because they are applying it immediately, upon being deployed? Are their any range concerns, to prevent tracking problems? And in a mission, as opposed to PvP, are they effective at all?
Sentry drones are excellent in both PvE and PvP. Just need to keep an eye on the distance from the enemy and themselves to make sure they're not wasted.
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