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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.20 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 20/12/2008 01:13:39
Originally by: Kerfira I agree, level 4's needs to be changed a lot:
1. They need to have their income cut. They should at maximum be able to generate 1/3rd-1/4th the profit of 0.0 ratting. 2. They need to be tougher. Currently they're way too easy. 3. They need to be variable. You may get the title of a mission, but it should not be the set-piece it is today.
Wait you run them to ?
You say Currently they're way too easy and the give way to mutch isk
So if you run them then why complain its way too easy and the give way to mutch isk ? Be happy with it
And if you dont run them ? then i ask you WHY THE HEL DONT YOU RUN THEM WHEN THE ar way too easy and the give way to mutch isk ??
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.20 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: MMXMMX
Originally by: Kerfira I agree, level 4's needs to be changed a lot:
1. They need to have their income cut. They should at maximum be able to generate 1/3rd-1/4th the profit of 0.0 ratting. 2. They need to be tougher. Currently they're way too easy. 3. They need to be variable. You may get the title of a mission, but it should not be the set-piece it is today.
Wait you run them to ?
You say Currently they're way too easy and the give way to mutch isk
So if you run them then why complain its way too easy and the give way to mutch isk ? Be happy with it
I do run L4's. It is currently the best way of making ISK.....
The reason they need to be nerfed IS that they are the best way of making ISK! This should not be so. The best way of making ISK should also be the most dangerous one. L4's are about as dangerous as sitting quietly in your house (bad things can happen, but by a large majority they don't.)
It is simply a question of correcting a game imbalance.... Mainly because of L4's, 0.0 is void of activity, except people running around looking for fights. This should not be so. 0.0 should be the place people WANT to be in because the rewards were the greatest.
Originally by: MMXMMX To buy another raven to pvp in and insure it you need something like 200 mil that means to get 1 pvp raven you need to run 1 week missions and how long will that pvp ship survive in the world of eve ???
Wrong, that is only for the FIRST one. For all the next ones, you only pay up to 80-90m ISK as you'll have 110m ISK from the last ones insurance.
Battleships SHOULDN'T be cheap! BS being cheap is the main reason nobody files the smaller T1 ships these days. This may do wonders for the E-Peen of those people, but it also cheapens the game. The game would be much 'better' in variety if ALL ship types were used. Flying a BS in PvP should be something to be proud of, not a matter of routine.
In short, moneymaking in EVE should be curtailed for the good of the game....
Nah man if it where all that easy as you say then why peaple buy isk on websides and why so many peaple sel time codes ?
And trust me the new players have a dam hard time making isk Maiby a 3 years old char can make some easy isk 1 hour a day but the new chars have a fu cking hard time
Maiby a big corp/alliance in 0.0 can sit on there ass and collect rent from 1 of there un used systems yes 0.0 is way easy making isk then you want us to believe Like peaple running 10/10 complex in 0.0 for years becouse the own that system .
And the rent there space to pet corps the can mine all the nice goodies and rent offices in stations the have captured to pet corps like asking 300 mil rent for a office .
And moonmining you want to tel me that all those TITANS where bild with the easy isk the make in running missions in empire ???
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.20 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 20/12/2008 15:46:25
Oh wait a sec Kerfira
I got it lol
When the make running level 4 missions harder mutch harder like you want so the isk versus risk and reward wil be balanced .
Les peaple wil be able to run your missions And when les peaple run your missions
1: No lag any more in your mission system 2: Les LP store items on the market so price wil go up 3: Les peaple wil buy the officer mods to fit there mission ship so there prices wil go down 4: There wil be les ammo used in the mission systems so there prices wil go down 5: There wil be les loot comming out of missions so the loot profit wil go up becouse les peaple wil loot 6: The rigs you make from salvaging the missions wil be more expensive becouse les peaple wil salvage 7: You wil be special becouse you are stil able to run missions
It looks to me the ptofit wil go up and not down
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.21 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: MMXMMX on 21/12/2008 14:04:25
Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: MMXMMX Oh wait a sec Kerfira
I got it lol
When the make running level 4 missions harder mutch harder like you want so the isk versus risk and reward wil be balanced .
Les peaple wil be able to run your missions And when les peaple run your missions
1: No lag any more in your mission system
There isn't any lag in my mission system. I'm not so stupid as to do missions in one of the big hubs....
Originally by: MMXMMX 2: Les LP store items on the market so price wil go up 3: Les peaple wil buy the officer mods to fit there mission ship so there prices wil go down 4: There wil be les ammo used in the mission systems so there prices wil go down 5: There wil be les loot comming out of missions so the loot profit wil go up becouse les peaple wil loot 6: The rigs you make from salvaging the missions wil be more expensive becouse les peaple wil salvage 7: You wil be special becouse you are stil able to run missions
I will not be doing missions in high-sec if 0.0 is more profitable....
Some of us actually think about game balance first, and ourselves second. You obviously not....
These days, 0.0 is a barren wasteland with few to no people actually LIVING there. For the good of the game this should be changed, and the only way to change it is to make high-sec less profitable.
You say it is hard for new players to make ISK... I call BS (male bovine biological matter) on that! A friend of mine just started EVE a short while ago, and he was in a BC within 3 weeks (and he was only playing maybe an hour or two a day...). ISK is way too EASY to come by!
L4 missions in high-sec are simply too profitable, and need a nerf.
Wait wait You run your missions in LOW SEC and you want the missions in HIGH SEC to be nerfd becouse the make to mutch easy isk ? Is that what you say ?
Let me say this : CCP needs to remove all low sec and 0.0 agents becouse the pay way to mutch.
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.22 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tankanaka
Originally by: Kerfira
These days, 0.0 is a barren wasteland with few to no people actually LIVING there.
it's beyond me why ccp would place a lvl4 q18-20 agent in a 0.9 system.
Becouse a agent in a 0.9 system is paying extreme bad even when it is a Q18 his payment wil suck like hell
But lets talk about moon mining and mining :) That is way to easy and the payouts are way to high !!!!
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MMXMMX
Caldari Resistance is Futile
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Posted - 2008.12.22 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tankanaka ...correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they still give out a decent amount of LPs? true nothing compared to low sec, but you're still getting the same ship bounties/loot/salvage which has to account for a signifcant amount of earnings for lvl4's ?
I can tel you that this signifcant amount of earnings for lvl4's Is stil not inuf to let me get a Carrier and a Dreadnought and a Jumpfreighter .
See i have the skils to fly those 3 ships and i want them all 3
Do you know how long and how many level 4 missions i need to run to get those 3 ships and equip them ? I can tel you that this signifcant amount of earnings for lvl4's wil look like S H I T when you ar not in big alliance that buy your ships and give away free isk that the got from a pos exploit.
Dit you guys ever look ad the prices off those capital ship books and ships ? Do you know how mutch missions you have to run to get 15 fighters in your carrier ?
Pffffffff i give up lol
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