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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:53:00 -
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umm...welcom to the new age of gamming.. maga cheating!
what can you say now we have alliances who will never be messed with do to this exploit! i say ccp should close all alliances and restart them fresh.
if this won't be done and we know it won't well then the alliances that are not involed in this should have there space resorses beffed up so they can catch up.
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 12/12/2008 03:15:32 Edited by: OffBeaT on 12/12/2008 03:14:34 i guess i would also like to add that mabe to calm us hard working grind eve gammers the leaders of all the alliances in game should state public that they and there alliance was not envolved in said cheating..
someone who has respect on this from or somone from eve radieo should make a call for this..
i think eve gammers have a right to here from them!
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 12/12/2008 03:46:52 this is what the eve gammers all wont i would think..
that is a callout to the alliances to state they have not gained by this exploit.
they did not have anyway of gaining from members who where in there allinace who did these exploits.
they should also after stating these things be investagated buy ccp to right the game to us.
knowone is saying shut down the allianes becouse we all know this cant be done but mabe thouse cought playing around in this exploit should get fined or have some stations took away.
i think ccp has already been taking statioins from them but just not saying from who.
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.12 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 12/12/2008 03:54:14 we all know that most of the bigger alliances where in on this exploit so common i agree with you that the damage is even accross the playing feild with the allianceses..
its the small alliances that got realy held back and cheated with this exploit!
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.13 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 13/12/2008 04:03:57
Originally by: Emyrxr
Originally by: Roymundo
Originally by: Delos Korelian
Originally by: OffBeaT umm...welcom to the new age of gamming.. maga cheating!
what can you say now we have alliances who will never be messed with do to this exploit! i say ccp should close all alliances and restart them fresh.
if this won't be done and we know it won't well then the alliances that are not involed in this should have there space resorses beffed up so they can catch up.
I would say reset ALL of 0.0. Simply wipe it all out, all stations that were built, all infrastructure, everything, and dump everyone in Empire.
thats a pretty good idea.
get rid of all the powerblocs that only got this powerfull through corruption and cheating.
be interesting to see the new landscape after the wipe though. pure chaos. imagine! all of 0.0 acting as a fw area till it gets settled.
ok i am sorry but don't you think that is unfair for all the people who have worked hard and put isk into that infrastructure in 0.0? i mean that is all the sweat and blood of work of alliances.. Also who knows how much isk... so what would that gain us other then very angry people wanting their isk/effort back?
think about all players who went up against all these mabe cheating allinces and lost all they had in a war they never had a fair eve chance of ever winnng.. how many eve alliances have they crushed or dreams of players ever making a go of there own corps/allianes.. lets just think about that..
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.13 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: Gamer4liff Uh, yeah, you might want to check the price history graphs a week or two from now when things stabilize somewhat.
Ehhh, even if T2 goes up 2x or 3x time its STILL not a big deal... In fact T2 is too cheap as it is. If T2 prices goes up (significantly), maybe T1 names items will go up too. This'll bring variety back in the game. Variety is good.
Get a sense of perspective... And don't take an internet spaceship game so seriously... Have fun instead!
you gota be joking right!
think about the newer players or mid range players who grind the game out day in and day out who wont to beable to afford somthing nice for there ships without buying isk to have to do it..
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.13 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 13/12/2008 20:05:45
Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: OffBeaT
Originally by: Kerfira My post
you gota be joking right!
think about the newer players or mid range players who grind the game out day in and day out who wont to beable to afford somthing nice for there ships without buying isk to have to do it..
Correction.... They'll still be able to buy lots of nice stuff, but the available range of goods just got stretched out a bit with regard to affordability.
Game mechanics wise, it will be a GOOD thing for T2 to get more expensive, as it'll: 1. Make people cry a little more as they lose it 2. Make people gloat a little more when they kill it 3. Give more people something higher to strive for 4. Make flying T2 something of a bragging item
In other words, it'll insert a little more emotion into people's gameplay, which is all that really matters.
Look further than your own nose, please.....
what eve planet are you on.. huh!
first off the high cost of t2 would make combat less attractive to to mid range players it shoure would to me..
2nd: as i do not know what large corp your main is a member of but not all corps can compet with high isk corps so they like me cant attract new members into their corps becouse they cant afford the cost of mods to aid them.
3rd: t1 mods unless they are the real high cost ones dont get the job done in combat unless its blob war.
4th: i dont brag when i lose a 250mil t2 bs and i dont know anyone who dose.
5th: my nose is out of my ass as a am i down to earth eve gammer and think about the noobs/mid range players who dog this game out day in and out. we dont all have 10 accounts or corps with 100 members so think on that will yea.
they have the right to get somthing out of eve aswell i would think.
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.14 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/12/2008 09:55:46
Originally by: Tara Rensa Edited by: Tara Rensa on 14/12/2008 07:06:04 Ten pages since my last post, and nobody seems to have touched on the real business issue here: fraud. Lots of very interesting, well thought out posts, and lots of mindless drivel, and some still giving a pass to people who commited fraud. So let's think about this for a second: a number of players exploit a flaw in the software that allows them to generate fake in-game money (ISK), with which they buy game time (which costs most of us real hard-earned money). So, they're using fake money to pay for subscriptions that cost all of us $14.95 US$ per month. CCP tells us that 70 (seventy) accounts were cancelled, and some posts allege that this exploit was being abused as much as four (4) years ago. So, do the math: $14.95 (US$) x 48 months x 70 accounts = $50,000 (conservatively). CCP was defrauded out of at least $50,000 (US$) conservatively. Dunno about Iceland or Germany or Serbia, but fraud to the amount of $50,000 is a felony here in the US.
So I ask my previous question to those giving the criminals a pass: if I find and exploit a security flaw in a bank's online system, I can keep all the cash I steal from that bank? I get a free pass? And for those of you who suggest that having a mechanism to pay for game time with ISK is provided by CCP, you need to also remember that in every business contract (which we all agreed to in the EULA), there is a basic "good faith" understanding that prevents people of good character from abusing the agreement.
you are a smart thinker but some think that the reason the exploit wasnt fixed in the first place is becouse mabe a few members of the gm or dev team where involved with the game and members of these alliances or highend members of them. so if this could be the case and i am not saying it is...
what then, we as paying gammers are the ones who got frauded did we not!
please dont close my account i did not make this clame!
ps.. oh and yes i agree with her somwhat. if what they did with the isk went to selling it on ebay then yea it could be fraud in a kind of way..
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.14 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 14/12/2008 10:08:08
Originally by: Liboruno This is your explanation...
no i am just thinking out loud from what i have read.. i realy think no real harm has been done to the game becouse i belive most of the major alliances where in on it.
so it evens all out in a kind of way..
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OffBeaT
Caldari KaMiKaZes
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Posted - 2008.12.15 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Delos Korelian
Originally by: Gargamell Smurf perhaps someone has already addressed this, but i am just a bit confused by all the people here babbling about this "exploit" going on for 4 years. WTF!?!? 4 years ago, THERE WERE NO POS and THERE WAS NO MOON MINING! NONE OF THAT EXISTED 4 YEARS AGO! DUH!
POS came into being approximately 4 years ago, in Exodus, with moon mining and all the goodies. So, where were you, and when did you buy your account exactly?
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