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Lorriene
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Posted - 2008.12.10 10:17:00 -
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I used to do L4 missions in a tanking Hyperion, with an alt in a Hurricane for DPS. Now I've been away for some time, and is about to start missions again, but this time I would like to try something else, just for the fun. So could anyone suggest something for level 4 missions, except for the Domi, Mega or Hyperion? I have decent drone skills and will be training for tech 2 large hybrids soon.
I spent 5 mins searching the forums, but found nothing. At work atm, so thought I'd post and check again later |
Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.12.10 10:22:00 -
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Quote: So could anyone suggest something for level 4 missions, except for the Domi, Mega or Hyperion?
Kronos or Ishtar.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2008.12.10 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o
Quote: So could anyone suggest something for level 4 missions, except for the Domi, Mega or Hyperion?
Kronos or Ishtar.
Ishtar FTW if you have excellent drone skills. Can actively tank any level 4 mission with ease, even against Serp if your willing to go with a few officer mods in the lows. Forget fitting the highs with guns, go with 2 salvagers and 2 tractor beams, one civ gun for aggro. Aggro everything in the room with you civ gun, kick on your AB, go afk and have some lunch, come back a few mins later, rinse and repeat.
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Bestiary Brutal
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Posted - 2008.12.10 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Bestiary Brutal on 10/12/2008 15:02:16 Do you realy want to do missions :( Is the best way to get bored and go away again... I did it in Mega all navy fited way to boring but way to easy. I'm thinking to get Mach even that ppl tell me is not nice any more guss whith lvl5 skills, drake can tank any mission and just take Mach for the funky parts But that is two acc.
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Anson Niven
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Posted - 2008.12.10 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gixxer 1000 Ishtar FTW if you have excellent drone skills. Can actively tank any level 4 mission with ease, even against Serp if your willing to go with a few officer mods in the lows.
Wrong, missions (granted not many in Gallente space, but I live in Amarr atm) with Nos will destroy your active tank quick. If afk is your strat you should stick with a larger room for error/fully insurable Domi just in case. No benefit to doing it afk in an Ishtar instead.
Actually paying attention and having good gunnery and drone skills? Then Kronos is THE Gallente mission running boat IMO. I can complete at least 4 times as fast in Kronos vs a Domi or my Ishtar(non nosing enemies).
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Paranon
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Posted - 2008.12.10 22:44:00 -
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Do you mean 4 times faster with a kronos vs an afk domi? I run a gank tank domi, 6 350's and garde 2's with a damage augmentor, which pushes 1000dps out to 45km. I can't seem to get more than 900ish dps out of a kronos, with similar tanks.
Which leads me to another question, comparing a maxed domi to a kronos which obviously has the advantage of tractor/salvage abilities. Is the kronos actually a step up? I'm looking for people who have actually flown both to give their opinions if possible. Cheers.
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Lord Untrustable
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Posted - 2008.12.11 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o
Quote: So could anyone suggest something for level 4 missions, except for the Domi, Mega or Hyperion?
Kronos or Ishtar.
Enyo FTW
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.11 08:53:00 -
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Megathron / Kronos
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praznimrak
Gallente Level Up
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Posted - 2008.12.11 10:01:00 -
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Pasiv shild tank ishtar. You can afk allmost all lvl4 misions. have fun
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Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.12.11 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zo5o on 11/12/2008 11:13:46
Quote: Which leads me to another question, comparing a maxed domi to a kronos which obviously has the advantage of tractor/salvage abilities. Is the kronos actually a step up? I'm looking for people who have actually flown both to give their opinions if possible. Cheers.
Against everything but blood/sansha/amarr, yes. It does more dps at range. I fly both.
Let me guess your setup... 6x DG rails, Sentry Damage Augmentor II, Drone Control Range Augmentor I, 1 LAR, 3 hards, 3 magstabs, 2/3 omnis, maybe a tracking comp? Even with tracking comp and optimal range script, you're only getting that 1000 dps out to 34 km, not 45, and your effective range in missions is limited by your drone control range, which will be 75 or 72 km depending on what if you have ewar drone interfacing trained to 4 or 5. And with this setup you're either going to have a crap tank (protest lar with medium cap booster) or have very little cap to play with (any other lar).
A locus rigged Kronos can get nearly 1000 dps (with the right implants) with two tracking comps, can fit a large cap booster and a non crappy protest lar with said setup, and its effective range of engagement is 104km without a sensor booster. Plus it can loot and salvage while killing.
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Johraiken Fenris
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.11 12:30:00 -
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I ran practically every single mission you could get from a Gallente or an Amarr agent with an Ishtar setup like:
3x tractor, 2x salvager. 10mn AB II, PWNAGE (target painter to draw agro), 2x cap recharger, 1x largr cap battery (peroxide if you are low on CPU) 2x med repper II, 3x Amarr navy rat-specific active hardeners. 2x CCC rig
Use the painter to draw agro, release ogres and salvage/loot all the wrecks. AB on and orbit gates and other object: incoming DPS from frigs is very low. Most dangerous ships are webbing frigs (angels vipers for example), and should be dealt with ASAP. Always try to keep your distance if the dps is too high (2nd spawn in Stop the Thief, Right Hand of Zazzmatazz, for example, full agro of 1st room of Vengeance).
I haven't used this ship in QR, and as the speed is probably nerfed and the ogres aren't as effective as they used to be, I don't know how it behaves now.
Hope it helps.
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Lorriene
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Posted - 2008.12.11 16:12:00 -
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Okay, thanks for the help. I'm looking at the Ishtar, but having problems getting everything in and still having decent cap recharge.
Is a target painter better for taking agro, than a gun? I think I need the extra Cap Recharger. |
Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.12.12 02:35:00 -
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Quote: Okay, thanks for the help. I'm looking at the Ishtar, but having problems getting everything in and still having decent cap recharge.
Is a target painter better for taking agro, than a gun? I think I need the extra Cap Recharger.
You know, if you have the skills, a passively shield-tanked ishtar is better than an armor tanked one against many rat types.
Just an FYI.
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Lorriene
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Posted - 2008.12.12 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o
You know, if you have the skills, a passively shield-tanked ishtar is better than an armor tanked one against many rat types.
Just an FYI.
Myea, but I don't have the skills for shield tanking atm.
Would still like to know if the target painter is a better choice than a small rail gun, for pulling aggro? |
Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.12.12 08:37:00 -
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If you need the extra cap recharger just use a single gun for aggro. Maybe even a civilian gun for lulz and uberness.
Mids should prolly be cap rechargers, omnidirectional tracking links, and maybe a drone speed mod.
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