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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:32:00 -
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I think it would be neat to allow outlaws to come back into high sec without faction police shooting them on site.
Would concord still attack if the pirate commits a crime? Yes - infact response times vs outlaws could be enhanced (concord shadowing you).
Would players still be allowed to freely agress AND pod kill the outlaw? Yes.
Would outlaws be able to move around more without the need for carriers/freighters? Yes.
Would the outlaws' friends get GCC and concord for remote assitance? Yes. Huge disadvantage for a pvp corp.
More pvp and more customers for industrialists. Honestly its stacked in favor of non-pirates by a good bit.
Thoughts?
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Furb Killer
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:34:00 -
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No
Your choice to be a pirate, accept the consequences. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer No
Your choice to be a pirate, accept the consequences.
I don't think I said I don't accept the consequences. I'm trying to add more variety to the game.
Do you wet yourself a little when someone goes flashy on your overview? Why would you feel so threatened by this change when you'd still have your precious concord there to save you from unwanted aggression?
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Riga Mortiss
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:37:00 -
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NO
You chose your sec status when you decided to pirate and gate camp. Live with your choice. If you want to come back to empire grind SOH missions to rebuild your status like everyone else.
Live with low status or grind missions..... those are your choices. Deal with it.
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Terraform
Gallente Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:38:00 -
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Grind missions like the rest, or rat your way into good standing. What kind of easy-mode request is this anyway? what a ****y pirate.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Originally by: Furb Killer No
Your choice to be a pirate, accept the consequences.
I don't think I said I don't accept the consequences. I'm trying to add more variety to the game.
Do you wet yourself a little when someone goes flashy on your overview? Why would you feel so threatened by this change when you'd still have your precious concord there to save you from unwanted aggression?
Oh yes, you are so big and scary mr piwate. Please don't hurt me. I am afwaid.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:41:00 -
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And it's always fun when a -10 comes wandering by in their POD.
Happened to me one day, right after fitting out a Sabre. I came out of warp and there he was, slow-boating along on autopilot all nice and bright and flashy. With a 173m bounty that fit nicely into my darn near empty wallet, and his corpse in the cargohold. For a moment I felt like a frog idly snapping up a wandering fly.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Riga Mortiss NO
You chose your sec status when you decided to pirate and gate camp. Live with your choice. If you want to come back to empire grind SOH missions to rebuild your status like everyone else.
Live with low status or grind missions..... those are your choices. Deal with it.
Can you explain why this would be a bad idea? Or do you just reject anything different out of habit?
I accept my decision quite nicely - infact I can still move around as I need. I wouldn't mind seeing some high sec people trying to attack me though.
You'd have all the advantages.
Remote rep - Falcons to jam - Get to Fire first and when you're ready at YOUR optimals. You can even POD me!
I don't see a good reason why this couldnt/shouldn't be implemented.
If I need to travel I just have an alt cyno up a carrier with my things. Or a freighter, etc. Its more of an idea to get more fights.
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Zytrel
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:43:00 -
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I've been having the same thought for some time now. :) It would actually allow players to police highsec themselves with close to zero risk.
But I doubt that the "OMG, accept the consequences"-brigade will ever be able to see the bigger picture, and instead keep yelling at you. :)
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:43:00 -
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Shouldn't you be ratting instead of making pointless threads? XD uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Omarvelous
Originally by: Furb Killer No
Your choice to be a pirate, accept the consequences.
I don't think I said I don't accept the consequences. I'm trying to add more variety to the game.
Do you wet yourself a little when someone goes flashy on your overview? Why would you feel so threatened by this change when you'd still have your precious concord there to save you from unwanted aggression?
Oh yes, you are so big and scary mr piwate. Please don't hurt me. I am afwaid.
Exactly - its nothing but a 'hey free and easy target' to shoot at and pod. Why would this be a bad thing in high sec? People should JUMP at teh opportunity to get a fight with all the mechanics in THEIR favor!
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Po3tank
Amarr Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:45:00 -
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i so stoned,you are so awsome i wish i could solo a pirate pod like you!
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juduzz
Amarr Atomic Battle Penguins The Darwin Award Foundation
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:46:00 -
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Should be that way least into 0.5-0.7 ( someone sudgested this awhile ago)give me more stuff to shoot
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Terraform Grind missions like the rest, or rat your way into good standing. What kind of easy-mode request is this anyway? what a ****y pirate.
I have 0 - NONE - NO desire to rat my sec status up to get into high sec. My suggestion was for a way to get more fights with the game mechanics stacked against me. Yet you reject it. I'm fine with the way things are - just seeing if anyone would like to increase pvp opportunities.
I like the insults though - apparently a pirate must have gotten to you somehow.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Can you explain why this would be a bad idea?
Can you explain what the point of having a sec status is if you can freely travel to any system?
-2.5 sec cant enter 0.9 systems. With your system, he can, and no one can shoot him as he is not an outlaw.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:48:00 -
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Right now - a high sec player wanting to fight an outlaw - has to travel into low sec through gate camps and fight on the pirates' terms - I'm offering you guys a chance to fight on your terms!
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Karma
Originally by: Omarvelous
Can you explain why this would be a bad idea?
Can you explain what the point of having a sec status is if you can freely travel to any system?
-2.5 sec cant enter 0.9 systems. With your system, he can, and no one can shoot him as he is not an outlaw.
OK I'll meet you halfway. Anyone with a sec status lower than what the system allows would be free to shoot at by anyone with a high enough sec status.
-2.5 player goes to 1.0 system. Status changes from yellow to flashy red (no GCC - just local killrights).
High sec status gives you all the game mechanics in your favor then!
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Po3tank
Amarr Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:54:00 -
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Quote: Can you explain what the point of having a sec status is if you can freely travel to any system?
pritty simple rly the reason we want to travle to any system is becuse we dont want to have to use carriers and alts to move our ****,if this where implemnted we could travle around freely but yall have some huge ass advantages when it comes to killing us and geting our bountys *cough* bounty hunters anyone? */cough*
short story 1.shoot pirate 2.attempt to kill pirate 3.???? 4.possible profit!
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
Can you explain why this would be a bad idea? Or do you just reject anything different out of habit?
Habit, however Its one of the most basic things about the sec status.
But I'd love to see flashing red things on overview more often, as said, not like they can do anything. TBH tho, same could be said about capital ships in empire, I'd love to see more of them undocking and jumping out.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous I think it would be neat to allow outlaws to come back into high sec without faction police shooting them on site.
Would concord still attack if the pirate commits a crime? Yes - infact response times vs outlaws could be enhanced (concord shadowing you).
Would players still be allowed to freely agress AND pod kill the outlaw? Yes.
Would outlaws be able to move around more without the need for carriers/freighters? Yes.
Would the outlaws' friends get GCC and concord for remote assitance? Yes. Huge disadvantage for a pvp corp.
More pvp and more customers for industrialists. Honestly its stacked in favor of non-pirates by a good bit.
Thoughts?
An old idea but still an excellent one.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Po3tank
Quote: Can you explain what the point of having a sec status is if you can freely travel to any system?
pritty simple rly the reason we want to travle to any system is becuse we dont want to have to use carriers and alts to move our ****,if this where implemnted we could travle around freely but yall have some huge ass advantages when it comes to killing us and geting our bountys *cough* bounty hunters anyone? */cough*
short story 1.shoot pirate 2.attempt to kill pirate 3.???? 4.possible profit!
/me wishes people in this thread could see what I meant like you did...
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Karma on 18/11/2008 17:59:23
Originally by: Omarvelous
OK I'll meet you halfway. Anyone with a sec status lower than what the system allows would be free to shoot at by anyone with a high enough sec status.
-2.5 player goes to 1.0 system. Status changes from yellow to flashy red (no GCC - just local killrights).
High sec status gives you all the game mechanics in your favor then!
I'm still puzzled as to how you think that will benefit your gameplay. People that don't want to shoot you, wont shoot you. The only benefit would be that you can shop in high sec without the hassle of moving your BS back to low sec.
The motive for your change seems to be your own laziness. You did admit you cba to sec up
Laziness motive reinforced by Po3tank (and please tell me how you scramble a pod without using a dictor bubble, to get the bounty) |
Josef Odinssen
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:58:00 -
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No.
Because:
Gatecampers pretty much close the door to lowsec/nullsec for everything but the most skilled blockade runners. Most of them dont even ask you any questions they just shoot on sight, so its only fair when you come onto carebear turf you get pwned utterly by the concord campers in a way they are completely helpless to avoid/combat.
its a taste of your own medicine. drink it like a man.
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Po3tank
Amarr Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:58:00 -
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see i have the heart of a pirate inside me and a carebear heart i came accross in my hand,both are still alive and pumping blood!this allows me to see benefits to both sides and not single minded nonsence |
Gone'Postal
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Josef Odinssen No.
Because:
Gatecampers pretty much close the door to lowsec/nullsec for everything but the most skilled blockade runners. Most of them dont even ask you any questions they just shoot on sight, so its only fair when you come onto carebear turf you get pwned utterly by the concord campers in a way they are completely helpless to avoid/combat.
its a taste of your own medicine. drink it like a man.
LMFAO I love your thinking and they way you put that. |
Marchocias
Silent Ninja's Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:00:00 -
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I think its a rather good idea. Not necessarily the correct way to go, but to my mind it would slightly bridge the hisec/losec gap to some extent. Anything which could encourage carebears to actually have a fight is a good idea in my opinion.
Ignore the flamers... anyone who doesn't actually give a reason for why they like/dislike this (or any other) idea, should be taken out and summarily executed. For the crime of ignorance. |
Furb Killer
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:00:00 -
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It would result mainly in noobs losing their ships because they shoot flashy reds.
Next likely result is that when someone attacks the outlaw his friends from same corp jump in and kill you.
And not being able to get stuff in high sec (too bad alts ruin this system, but it makes it at least a bit more work), is the entire point behind sec status. |
Po3tank
Amarr Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:01:00 -
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Quote: Gatecampers pretty much close the door to lowsec/nullsec for everything but the most skilled blockade runners. Most of them dont even ask you any questions they just shoot on sight, so its only fair when you come onto carebear turf you get pwned utterly by the concord campers in a way they are completely helpless to avoid/combat.
the reason why your logic is flawed is becuse carebears can bring lots of people to blob said camp and destroy it.. however no mater how many people the pirates bring to destroy the "highsec camp" we cant kill the faction police and we still die no mater what |
Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Karma Edited by: Lady Karma on 18/11/2008 17:57:44
Originally by: Omarvelous
OK I'll meet you halfway. Anyone with a sec status lower than what the system allows would be free to shoot at by anyone with a high enough sec status.
-2.5 player goes to 1.0 system. Status changes from yellow to flashy red (no GCC - just local killrights).
High sec status gives you all the game mechanics in your favor then!
I'm still puzzled as to how you think that will benfit your gameplay. People that don't want to shoot you, wont shoot you. The only benefit would be that you can shop in high sec without the hassle of moving your BS back to low sec.
The motive for your change seems to be your own laziness. You did admit you cba to sec up
Laziness motive reinforced by Po3tank
Think it through.
Will I an outlaw go shopping in high sec?
HELL NO!
ie. I go to Jita to buy and fit up my ship. Sweet - I got it and I'm going to undock...
BUT WAIT!
200 people undocked see me (outlaw) undocked in his ship. Seeing that they have free rights to shoot me and POD me, and that my corp mates cannot not assist me in anyway I die horribly.
I dont want to shop with my outlaw character. I have an industrial alt to take care of all my high sec shopping needs. I in turn manufacture all my - and my corp's needs in low sec.
I don't need high sec shopping. I want MORE fights - even if all the game mechanics favor YOU! |
Po3tank
Amarr Basgerin Pirate
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Posted - 2008.11.18 18:04:00 -
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Quote: Next likely result is that when someone attacks the outlaw his friends from same corp jump in and kill you.
this dose not work if you attack a flashy red and his corp member attacks you he gets concorded by concord!!and also he dies a misrable death becuse he attacked you when you never aggresed him
befor you argue in a topic learn about aggresion stuff plz! |
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