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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.10.29 01:50:00 -
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Smuggling may just get a whole lot more viable(and fun). I love the idea of a covert ops cloak on blockade runners. Will this change 0.0-Empire logistics for the better or worse?
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 29/10/2008 01:56:18 It's overpowered. Give them a velocity boost with an Improved Cloak, hell even give them immunity from being sucked into a bubble on warp-in, but warping cloaked is a league above where this ship should be. The risk v. reward is borked in favor of reward.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 01:56:00 -
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and they don't do .5 past light
once upon a time I had a signature here and it was good then applebabe ate it and I had to replace it you really should spend less time reading my signature and more worshipping the fish hat |
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:16:00 -
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Does it also mean you can smuggle boosters through highsec with this change?
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme and they don't do .5 past light
My bestower made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
True story. _____________________
The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Tortun Nahme and they don't do .5 past light
My bestower made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
True story.
In the words of every college basketball fan, "BULL ****, BULL ****, BULL ****"
No one makes it under 15.
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No Homo
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:23:00 -
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My badger outruns State starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Caldari ships now. They're fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo? Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected]
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 29/10/2008 02:33:41
Originally by: No Homo My badger outruns State starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Caldari ships now. They're fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?
To more accurately represent the original quote, the "caldari" should be replaced with the name of a caldari system where a large number of ships are produced. L2Nerd _____________________
The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:37:00 -
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This is the sort of change which'll make me reactivate my account again. With this I can realistically set up low-sec POS on my own again and give pirates that big fat carebear target they've always wanted.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:42:00 -
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It's total immunity to being caught
Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:48:00 -
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you came to rescue me in that? you must be braver than I though
once upon a time I had a signature here and it was good then applebabe ate it and I had to replace it you really should spend less time reading my signature and more worshipping the fish hat |
The Slayer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden It's total immunity to being caught
its totally impossible to decloak a ship with a gatecamp, yessir
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 02:59:00 -
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its also impossible to keep them from cloaking to begin with \o/
and besides
no ship that small has a cloak
once upon a time I had a signature here and it was good then applebabe ate it and I had to replace it you really should spend less time reading my signature and more worshipping the fish hat |
Nyza Lobot
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Posted - 2008.10.29 03:09:00 -
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thats no moon, thats an avata-
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.10.29 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden It's total immunity to being caught
Hmm, you're right. They actually have pretty damn good odds of getting through a camp not using a bubble. We should call these ships Blockade Runners now,,,, oh wait!
Improve Market Competition! |
Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.10.29 03:50:00 -
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So only cap ships should be resistant to gatecamps? It's a "blockade runner" not a "bubblecamp paycheck" ffs.
Great change. Give pilots with less than 40M sp a way to compete in both lowsec and 0.0 if they wish to do industry and science. It's far from perfectly safe and yet no longer suicide.
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.29 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear So only cap ships should be resistant to gatecamps? It's a "blockade runner" not a "bubblecamp paycheck" ffs.
Great change. Give pilots with less than 40M sp a way to compete in both lowsec and 0.0 if they wish to do industry and science. It's far from perfectly safe and yet no longer suicide.
totally agree - i was flying around on an alt through low-sec a few nights ago picking up datacores and i wish for almost this exact change to my viator. ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
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Heretica Ramius
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Posted - 2008.10.29 04:40:00 -
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It's not my fault!
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Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.29 04:49:00 -
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I have run countless gatecamps in lowsec and never lost my Prowler, even before the changes. Maybe the problem wasn't the ship, it was the user.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 04:57:00 -
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this is not the pod you're looking for
once upon a time I had a signature here and it was good then applebabe ate it and I had to replace it you really should spend less time reading my signature and more worshipping the fish hat |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces I have run countless gatecamps in lowsec and never lost my Prowler, even before the changes. Maybe the problem wasn't the ship, it was the user.
indeed, in empire (aka no bubbles) they are 99.5% immune.
in 0.0 well I haven't had a reason to go out there yet. but hell I have seen a number of 0.0 covops losses, so I would imagine they will be quite safe but not invincible.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:13:00 -
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what the hell is an aluminum falcon? ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt! |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:15:00 -
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Han shot first Lucas you *******
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Han shot first Lucas you *******
THEY'RE RAPPING INDIANA JONES!!!!!
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Aeo IV
Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear So only cap ships should be resistant to gatecamps? It's a "blockade runner" not a "bubblecamp paycheck" ffs.
Great change. Give pilots with less than 40M sp a way to compete in both lowsec and 0.0 if they wish to do industry and science. It's far from perfectly safe and yet no longer suicide.
/signed
Honestly, this is a great change.
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W3370Pi4
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.29 05:44:00 -
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Well personally
Crane
High : Improved cloaking device Mids : 1mn Faction or T2 MWD , Cap rech T2 X 3 Lows : Nanofiber T2 X 2 Rigs : low friction T1 X2
make the +2 warp strength TOTALLY useless
If used the right way the blockade runner doesn't even need to have is tank or even the +2 WS challenged
because you basically insta-warp if you do it the right way , the right way is already to use it like a covert ops when you approach a gate or get away from one , this is simply CCP being smart and being much more explicit on how some ships need to be "properly" used ,
The roles have simply been inverted ( for the caldari for ex ) the Crane become the 0.0 hauler and the Bustard become the low sec hauler ( the bustard was okay at this now it will be awesome )
and lets not forget that this is very skill intensive for the covert ops cloak the T2 setups its not like all the little "new players" will be able to use this right away .
ALL THIS CAREBEAR LOVE MADE ME HAPPY :) *********************************************
Vitreous Mercoxit ! What else |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.10.29 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Tortun Nahme and they don't do .5 past light
My bestower made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
True story.
*adjusts navcom*
*fires boosters*
*flies after Chaos from the wreckage*
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Tortun Nahme and they don't do .5 past light
My bestower made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.
True story.
*adjusts navcom*
*fires boosters*
*flies after Chaos from the wreckage*
Don't forget to deploy sonic weapons in a vacuum
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Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2008.10.29 09:55:00 -
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Hmmm... I'm not sure where I stand on this. The ability to use Black Ops is actually kinda cool... But I think covert ops cloaking of blockade runners is perhaps a little overkill. Hmmm...
And WTF? Skiff has always had +2 warp strength? Well **** CCP. Thanks for telling us like 3 years after the fact.
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Lord Haur
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.29 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: W3370Pi4 Well personally
Crane
High : Improved cloaking device Mids : 1mn Faction or T2 MWD , Cap rech T2 X 3 Lows : Nanofiber T2 X 2 Rigs : low friction T1 X2
make the +2 warp strength TOTALLY useless
If used the right way the blockade runner doesn't even need to have is tank or even the +2 WS challenged
because you basically insta-warp if you do it the right way , the right way is already to use it like a covert ops when you approach a gate or get away from one , this is simply CCP being smart and being much more explicit on how some ships need to be "properly" used ,
The roles have simply been inverted ( for the caldari for ex ) the Crane become the 0.0 hauler and the Bustard become the low sec hauler ( the bustard was okay at this now it will be awesome )
and lets not forget that this is very skill intensive for the covert ops cloak the T2 setups its not like all the little "new players" will be able to use this right away .
ALL THIS CAREBEAR LOVE MADE ME HAPPY :)
1) The Blockade Runners are set to lose their +2 warp strength anyway 2) T2 cloak only needs electronics 5 and cloaking 4... I dont call that skill-intensive. --- Sig Starts Here --- Lord Haur - Imperial Academy Logistical Support
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