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Jayne Cobbe
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Miriyaka what's the deal with CCP trying to make eve into every other mmo? do they really think the kind of people who play wow, warhammer, etc will have any interest in space spreadsheets online? no, but the several hundred thousand loyal subscribers you already have do have interest in space spreadsheets online, so cut this stupid shit out and play to your strengths.
stop homogenizing every aspect of your game, stop trying to mold it into some kind of twisted mutant hybrid of an incredibly-indepth market space sim and a bland mass-market grindfest.
so say we all!
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cheyenne Shadowborn on 13/10/2008 19:04:56
I admit I have not read the replies so I'll probably echo what others have said but:
"and capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters"
FFS CCP at least be honest and admit its about MONEYMAKING and stop making up stupid excuses that insult our intelligence.
There is NO WORK between someone who gets SP and does not pay, and someone who gets SP and does not login but pays.
Also, fix the forums. It told me I can't edit my post because it doesn't belong to me.
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Lumen Atra
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Lumen Atra on 13/10/2008 19:00:35
Originally by: Inanna Zuni
Originally by: Trzzbk Edited by: Trzzbk on 13/10/2008 18:36:15
Originally by: Inanna Zuni (TANSTAAFL)
I'd say that's a good thing too, considering how you look even after having to pay for all of your lunches.
rofl. But at least I pay for mine and don't expect anyone to feed me for free. Most of the bleaters here seem to think they deserve something for nothing.
IZ
(For those who don't know .. TANSTAAFL - There aint' no such thing as a free lunch)
A couple things fatty (this is why you are obsessed with lunch right? If not, I do almost sincerely apologize):
How long has the game been out? How long has ghost training been in? What prompts the change? Why do you not grasp the fact that long term investment is better than short term? Or to put it pointedly: it isn't a free lunch because they do come back and pay, as opposed to not coming back at all. Why do you espouse this as the customers trying to get a free lunch, when in fact, CCP is doing exactly that? They are getting a free lunch because they want people that have alt accounts to keep them subscribed despite them not actually playing on them. They incur absolutely no more cost of having accounts in the database active or inactive, regardless of skill training state.
You know what is really amusing, is that you are so ignorant as to think CCP is doing something good for the customer, at that anybody that challenges must be wanting a hand out.
Here fatty: I don't want a handout. I don't have an alt account. And now, I never will even though I was debating it - and I am one of the people that leaves shit subscribed even when I take breaks. But I can still criticize their business practice because it is obvious the only goal here is to squeeze the customer base for more money. There is NO other reason.
The sad thing, is the probably will get more money in the short term, and the long term is foggy at best. As many of said, lots of people - not just people with alt accounts - sub and unsub because they can keep up with whatever reason they keep coming back. Without that ability, they lose reason, causing long term customer retention (a goal any company SHOULD have) to go down the crapper, in comparison.
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Cueball Mcfuzz
Groon Research
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mortis Aguila
Originally by: Inanna Zuni
(For those who don't know .. TANSTAAFL - There aint' no such thing as a free lunch)
BTW, for those who give a rat's ass about the language, it's TINSTAAFL - There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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I wish you were dead
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Shao'lin
Irish Capital Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Pimp Mustafa ill i have to say is
nurfbat
quality...
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Teras Menac
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nemeziskee Remove Ghost training okay, BUT give us skill queue.
Can I get an AMEN!!!!?
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Korvin
Gallente VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:59:00 -
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- 3 accounts for me i guess...
sometimes they were all active, sometimes not, but now its time to say goodbye.
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Fred Ayurveda
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:00:00 -
[398]
So somebody tell me how to sell characters without getting banned, what's the preferred method
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Mhaerdirne Solveig
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mhaerdirne Solveig on 13/10/2008 19:00:33
Originally by: Inanna Zuni
Originally by: Sarl Massai Christ's sake, Ghost Training IS NOT FREE.
YES IT IS!
In the past you have trained for periods of time when you didn't pay! (Everyone trains when they do pay)
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Stella Kindle
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:00:00 -
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You know who else wouldn't let accounts train while they were inactive?....Mussolini.
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Hermmann
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:00:00 -
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I do agree with CCP. Those who complain are the always-going-to-be free riders of the world, trying to get benefits from other efforts.
Congratulations CCP!!!!
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Cueball Mcfuzz
Groon Research
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stella Kindle You know who else wouldn't let accounts train while they were inactive?....Mussolini.
*gasp*
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deadEd
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:02:00 -
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Good move CCP - now not only do I never want to bother rolling and maintaining alts, next time I get burned out by how unbelievably broken certain segments of this game are, I'll have no reason at all to even consider re-subbing later! Thanks for making up my mind for me, I appreciate it
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Zsani
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:02:00 -
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Minus 2 account paying instant. THX money W....S !!!
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Fulber
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Zuni
Originally by: Sarl Massai Christ's sake, Ghost Training IS NOT FREE.
YES IT IS!
In the past you have trained for periods of time when you didn't pay! (Everyone trains when they do pay)
If you do not pay at any point, you cannot ghost train. Therefore, ghost training itself is not free. |
MigG176
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:02:00 -
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I think CCP should leave it as it is as it will be penalizing those with a number of valid reasons why they can't log on.
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Bonefish O'Hallahan
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Quote:
Ah, CCP - they've found a way to make people not want to make alts AND not come back from burnout periods all at once. They're like anti-geniuses.
With love from the Goonfleet forums~
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Zurtan Bayle
Minmatar The Wings of Maak
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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No, no, no...
I never whine about change cause EvE is evolution IMO, but THIS I think it's a real mistake. How ghost training can be damageable for active people? you can't change skills, and the most longer you can train inactive is what... 40-50day skill? less than 2 month...
Honestly, this features is one of them you made me (and lots of others) playing since 4-5 years, and I really don't understand why remove that...
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Lukas Devdan
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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3 hours since this was announced, and low and behold, almost 450 replies... 150 per hour, 2.5 posts per minute since it was announced...
CCP, take what you want from this, but with my expereine in business this is gerenally called "Customer Outrage" generally leading to falling sales, and people swapping games and you, the provider, loosing more money now than you were before when you allowed "ghost training".
You may not realize this, but your customers are not idiots, and can see right through this "unfair" advantage cover story. In fact it is more benefical to play the game while trianing a skill. Seeing as how during that 30 days I would have more ISK than someone who did not play during that time.
First you ditch the 30 and 90 day GTC and jack the prices (and WOW did GTC jump in isk cost....) and now making it so people can't run several accounts without breaking their in-game or real-life bank accounts...
With another certain spaceb based MMO coming out in the next few months, one would think that you would be trying to attract NEW subscribers, and not **** off the ones they currently have. There is a certain cost in attracting new customers, that heavily outweighs giving your current loyal ones a break...
But hey, I must just be "a dumb kid" who plays video games..... right?
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Dissociactive
Solar Dragons SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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FEEL THE POWER OF TWO ;) great marketing system at all
instead we'll have station walk, carybear empiree wars, desync lags, black screens, nano-nerf, caldari boost and lots of other shit
me in love :) me shocked ! really
2009 year of CCP true :)
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Jayne Cobbe
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: deadEd Good move CCP - now not only do I never want to bother rolling and maintaining alts, next time I get burned out by how unbelievably broken certain segments of this game are, I'll have no reason at all to even consider re-subbing later! Thanks for making up my mind for me, I appreciate it
indeed
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Feng Schui
Minmatar Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: ElanMorin6
Originally by: Feng Schui Yea, lets take a look at this.
Lets say... 5k subs are perma-cancelled.
they only pay, $15 every 3 months (all 5k accounts are training rank 14 skills, all of the time).
thats what.. only $20,000 per year that they are loosing.
I think you missed a few zeros there on your finally tally.
you're right, i was only going by each re-subscription.. its $300,000 a year they lose.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Fenrill Nerkata
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn CCP at least be honest and admit its about MONEYMAKING and stop making up stupid excuses that insults our intelligence.
+1
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Hermmann
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Congrats, even more, as I read the bullies complaining... I think this should had happened long time before...
For those who complain: go play solitaire on your desktops...
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Lukas Devdan
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:04:00 -
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But the time you write a post, its added on 10 new ones!
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Tae'Lin Hynd
Simply Planned
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:04:00 -
[416]
Oh and the Inactive part of the OP announcement.....
DOES THIS MEAN WHILE ONLY LOGGED IN!?!?!?!
IF SO, I guess you guys have cured my addiction...
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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:04:00 -
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So..
Does this mean we will get the chance to participate in another "EVE Customer Opinion Study" really SoonÖ?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Shao'lin
Irish Capital Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Teras Menac
Originally by: Nemeziskee Remove Ghost training okay, BUT give us skill queue.
Can I get an AMEN!!!!?
/signed....
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Terapie
Mucho Dolor The Insomniacs
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:05:00 -
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You know what else this game needs to be more in line with bla bla bla...
Loosing skillpoints for everyday of inactive subcription...THEN and only THEN people will keep paying for their accs!!!
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Kuura Elson
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:05:00 -
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Ok lemme get this straight...
Caldari Carrier V takes me 62 days to train (with my poor skills/implants)...
You expect someone to pay 60 days of subscription just to finish a level of skill training!?!?
I've just done a calculation, if I were to train all my level 5s in this way - I'd need like $5,000++++ worth of subscription money just to stay in this game...
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