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JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:46:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:RougeOperator wrote: "Just landed. Step one, apologize profusely. Step two, resign. Step three, send all my isk to the victim. Entirely my fault and unacceptable."
Let us know when two and three are done.
One is done, both here and to the miner. Three is done. Two takes a post, and I should probably discuss it with the CSM before I mash butan. I think Two Step would make a fine Chairman, though.
I agree, and it would also be a good gesture of trust.
You'll still be the CSM of my heart~ I'll buy you a drink next year. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:54:00 -
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Welp, I think as long as Mittens stays in the Icelandair 7, the CSM will do fine. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:10:00 -
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Ideally, I'd love to see Alex keep going as the Chairman of the CSM; but I do think he's made up his mind about this.
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JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:16:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Bit of an interesting point now: if he doesn't resign (believing himself to be fit for purpose) he becomes a liar (having already said he's stepping down) which could potentially make people see him as being unfit for purpose.
Curiouser and curiouser.
That's why I said I believe that he's made up his mind (at least according to what I know is happening on SA atm). Today is a p sad day in goonwaffe history. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:35:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:This topic is going sideways, to be chairman or not to be, to be CSM or GSF leader, to be part of the Sandbox or to be morally constrained by the real world. This is a lot of bullshit and knowing Alex for the past year, him being able to separate his role as CSM chairman and his role of the evil Goonswarm empire CEO, and doing a damn good job at it, while representing the views of those that are cursing him right now in this thread. Well aint this just so polliticly correct thing to do eh?
In other news, am stuck waiting for my next flight in Sydney, this thread does provide some mild entertainment, but I must reflect on the things CSM6 must do in the view of the CCP's keynotes at the Fanfest. I think Alex (Mittani) will do the same if you stop this silliness.
This should literally be quoted on every single goddamn page of this thread. I've said it before; there is no facepalm big enough for this entire shitstorm. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:37:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:This topic is going sideways, to be chairman or not to be, to be CSM or GSF leader, to be part of the Sandbox or to be morally constrained by the real world. This is a lot of bullshit and knowing Alex for the past year, him being able to separate his role as CSM chairman and his role of the evil Goonswarm empire CEO, and doing a damn good job at it, while representing the views of those that are cursing him right now in this thread. Well aint this just so polliticly correct thing to do eh?
In other news, am stuck waiting for my next flight in Sydney, this thread does provide some mild entertainment, but I must reflect on the things CSM6 must do in the view of the CCP's keynotes at the Fanfest. I think Alex (Mittani) will do the same if you stop this silliness.
Never stop quoting. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 01:58:00 -
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Xython wrote:Benilopax wrote:CCP won't let him remain as chair for certain, the bad press this is generating and with dust coming out this year it would be a nightmare if every press question is "so you support cyber bullying?" Yes. Bad press. A bunch of MMORPG sites reposting a blog post from someone who is almost definitely in these threads ranting about how the big bad goonies destroyed their Hulk and it took them hours to get the bot script working again. This is only a scandal in the minds of a bunch of pathetic Cyberstalkers with an axe to grind.
If we can manage to solve this shitstorm without direct CCP intervention, it's another step in the right direction. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:19:00 -
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L00B wrote:Also, where where all you fuckheads BEFORE the apology? I mean, like, there's no way that the EBIL MITTTENS realized that he wasn't proud of something that transpired before you morons figured it out? Cuz, that would be like... so obvious that it doesn't matter what the man does, and ya'll are just the Eve equivalent of the "Party of NO".
They were in the communal "let's hate mittens" thread of the week. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 02:37:00 -
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This is almost as bad as monoclegate... except we're not unanimously yelling at CCP. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:12:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Post. Confirming that this is a post.
Confirming the confirmation of a post is a post. |
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JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 16:29:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:JamesCLK wrote: He was not at the alliance panel as Chairman of CSM 6, he was there as The Mittani, CEO of Goonswarm. How hard it it to understand this? Oh right! So it'd be perfectly acceptable for, say, Obama to make obscene and offensive comments if he went shopping with his family as the father of the Obama household, but not as the president of the USA? The paparazzi would have a field day. Besides - he's chairman of CSM 7 now.
Mittens has admitted he went overboard; but this really doesn't have anything to do with his CSM status because it occured at the alliance panel - not the CSM panel. The consequences shouldn't be tied to the CSM, they should be tied to the alliance panel.
What I'm saying is that Mittens should probably be excluded from appearing at next years alliance panel as "punishment"; don't expect him to be running around in a purple wizard hat and doing jaeger bombs anytime soon either. This whole "OMG STEP DOWN FROM CHAIRMAN" situation is completely and utterly irrelevant to the alliance panel; it's the wish of people who want an excuse to not have to deal with another year of successful CSM chairmanship under Mittens. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:34:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:Krutoj wrote:This topic is going sideways, to be chairman or not to be, to be CSM or GSF leader, to be part of the Sandbox or to be morally constrained by the real world. This is a lot of bullshit and knowing Alex for the past year, him being able to separate his role as CSM chairman and his role of the evil Goonswarm empire CEO, and doing a damn good job at it, while representing the views of those that are cursing him right now in this thread. Well aint this just so polliticly correct thing to do eh?
In other news, am stuck waiting for my next flight in Sydney, this thread does provide some mild entertainment, but I must reflect on the things CSM6 must do in the view of the CCP's keynotes at the Fanfest. I think Alex (Mittani) will do the same if you stop this silliness. This should literally be quoted on every single goddamn page of this thread. I've said it before; there is no facepalm big enough for this entire shitstorm. Time to requote this. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:14:00 -
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:bandwagon: harder. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:33:00 -
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Who the **** doesn't like Roadhouse? |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 09:53:00 -
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Sportsmanship? In my EVE? Patrick Swayze wants a word with you.
It's about Roadhouse. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 10:16:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Maverick Gauss wrote:I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.
About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.
I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.
Yours sincerly Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand. Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that. Yes, we do. Most of the EVE gaming community actually cares deeply. The OTHER 290k accounts care. My guess is there is actually more players of EVE who care than there are those who do not. Yes, this is, unfortunately, currently "business as usual" in EVE. But it should not be. Eight years ago it wasn't. Even five years ago it was usual for people to feel at least a bit silly if not ashamed if they clearly overstepped the lines and made other players seriously uncomfortable. It is just the Goonfleet and friends purposeful, deliberate destruction of the community and flaming / spamming / trolling everyone who cares into disgusted silence on the forums, that has changed our community standards from "it's just a game, I'm sorry it upsets you, I have nothing against you personally" to "lololololol it is just a game pubbie tears sweet bloobloobloo lol noob I love you crying." The difference should be obvious to anyone who has been here long enough. And I for one think it's way beyond time we went back to the actual sportsmanship, instead of pretending that sportsmanship is about ridiculing those who are already upset about losing. Copy sent to Maverick via evemail, as I suspect he is not reading the thread anymore. I think this incident might be a watershed for CCP to really stare rethinking HTFU mentality. I cant imagine this mentality will translate well into WOD where they are going to be courting more female players. Or dust 514 where they will pick up more casual and younger players.
Reality check: WOD is going to be an M rated game with permadeath as a possible outcome of pvp. HTFU was written across the board. CCP does not cater to casuals in their mission statement. You're trying too hard to read between nonexistant lines; you're also not posting about Roadhouse. Get out. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 15:13:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Taihbea wrote:Two questions.
If Mittani doesn't get a ban does that mean we can greif people to the point they kill themselves? Is that the next line/boundry since calling mass audience for harrasement of certain individual seems legit?
If Mittani stays in CSM does that mean CCP will no longer enforce any rules and we all can go bonanza since eve is hard and HTFU?
Serious questions. Did they close your other thread already?
Why yeeeees, yes they did. |
JamesCLK
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:50:00 -
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This may also be relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs |
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