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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 04:52:00 -
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To me nothing beats the missile "nerf" for pure drama and emorage. The current one doesn't even come close as far as I'm concerned. Neither does nano.
Who's been here a while and can chime in on the history of Eve's changes/nerfs? Which one was the most overblown and far from game-killing? Keep in mind that just because there are more players and posters now, that doesn't mean it's more dramatic.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 04:57:00 -
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"Warp to Zero will destroy EVE and propagate erectile dysfunction."
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jimmy jack
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:00:00 -
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the introduction of battleship npcs in exaddus,,,, if your could survive a spawn you was god
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Barbens
Sky Net Industries Pure.
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:05:00 -
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These last 2 announcements are by far my favorite. Its hilarious to watch people crawl out of the woordwork...
BaRbEnS
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Joss Sparq "Warp to Zero will destroy EVE and propagate erectile dysfunction."
Yeah, the bookmark seller's tears on this one tasted sweet indeed...
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Khrillian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Khrillian on 07/08/2008 05:08:28 Carrier nerf probably produced a lot of veteran tears, since nobody likes logistics.
I know the highway removal produced a fair share of tears, it certainly wasn't a high number (like you said because of the population increase).
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:08:00 -
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Dual MWD Scorpions & Ravens
Torpedo/Missile Nerf
Drone Nerf
Amarr Nerf (InvinciGeddons)
Nano Nerf
Privateer Nerf
Suicide Ganking Nerf
Carrier Nerf (unfulfilled in its entirety)
Thats pretty much what I remember, there were others, and I mixed them all in, I was not trying to be chronological.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:12:00 -
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Carrier nerf was dang good, lotsa whiners in there.
Although a small change I like the removal of shuttles or something to remove trit cap. ZOMG on market forums and they were all wrong, trit cap was just in another item. Guys, guys trit is going to soar over 10isk/unit and such hilarity. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Carrier nerf was dang good, lotsa whiners in there.
Although a small change I like the removal of shuttles or something to remove trit cap. ZOMG on market forums and they were all wrong, trit cap was just in another item. Guys, guys trit is going to soar over 10isk/unit and such hilarity.
Hey hey hey, I made allot of ISK reprocessing Civilian Afterburners and selling the tritanium after the "Shuttle Nerf"
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Fitz on 07/08/2008 05:17:15 Every time there's a nerf to anything people talk doom and gloom, but it's not a few weeks after such a patch and people have already worked out how to deal with it and be just as, if not more, effective than before it.
Carrier hauling nerf was interesting, but in the end jump freighters have made hauling a heap easier not harder, and carriers can haul more fitted ships as well. So now with a jump freighter + carrier you can haul far far more than you used to be able to do with 5 carriers.
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Khrillian
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:17:00 -
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Do you guys remember when CONCORD could be tanked?
Oh man the quantity of tears if that was still possible, with today's forums community, would beat anything thus far.
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:18:00 -
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I cant believe I forgot the "POS Nerf" when they doubled the price of the towers... good lord, that alone made me 10 Billion ISK that year, and the whinage was massive.
Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:20:00 -
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The privateer nerf
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny The privateer nerf
I know, I liked them, because of their wars there was so much carnage in Empire I was making hand over fist ISK selling ships and modules. Too bad the poor bastards got nuked.
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Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus adacai Yeah, the bookmark seller's tears on this one tasted sweet indeed...
Not forgetting the low security space pirates complaining their profession was dead, either. Originally by: Joey Meow Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
I think I once saw a compilation of screen captures of the Dev blog and EVE-O forums from back then that showed someone notorious, like I don't know, Ginger Magician (?) - having bought them up in massive amounts, only to discover they had been completely shafted.
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joss Sparq
Originally by: Joey Meow Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
I think I once saw a compilation of screen captures of the Dev blog and EVE-O forums from back then that showed someone notorious, like I don't know, Ginger Magician (?) - having bought them up in massive amounts, only to discover they had been completely shafted.
You know, I was being discreet about the the Ginger thing, and now you had to go and out him again, to those who do not know a thing about him.
It was hilarious though...
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Schalac
Caldari Brotherhood of Wolves
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Terminus adacai
Originally by: Joss Sparq "Warp to Zero will destroy EVE and propagate erectile dysfunction."
Yeah, the bookmark seller's tears on this one tasted sweet indeed...
My buddy made a few iskies selling those, I never understood why people hated it because I loved his WTZ BMs he gave me.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Khrillian I know the highway removal produced a fair share of tears, it certainly wasn't a high number (like you said because of the population increase).
ya, that hurt. . .and yes, I cryed when WtZ came in. . . ----
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joss Sparq "Warp to Zero will destroy EVE and propagate erectile dysfunction."
It has. I go limp every time another target warps to 0km and runs along on it's merry way, invulnerable to every thing and every one.
Bellum Eternus
[Vid] L E G E N D A R Y COLLECTION
Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Yussef
Amarr Trader's Academy Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:36:00 -
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Laugh all you want but I hear one BILLION people have canceled their accounts because a concord kill wont pay out insurance.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:39:00 -
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OK, new rule: The Carrier Nerf doesn't count, because it never happened.
Though it was quite fun to watch the drama.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joey Meow Dual MWD Scorpions & Ravens
Torpedo/Missile Nerf
Drone Nerf
Amarr Nerf (InvinciGeddons)
Nano Nerf
Privateer Nerf
Suicide Ganking Nerf
Carrier Nerf (unfulfilled in its entirety)
Thats pretty much what I remember, there were others, and I mixed them all in, I was not trying to be chronological.
You forgot the tracking nerf and the drone bandwidth nerf; the Drone nerf was different, if you can remember that far back.
But, yes, all spelled the end of Eve.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:46:00 -
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Not a vet but I did my fair share of tears at drone and bandwith nerf.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.08.07 05:54:00 -
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hate from a BM maker ?No they did an amazing job actually i like them .I think ppl without clue can say something like it ,if you had been try copy a region you had been gratefull to Bm sellers
Originally by: Schalac I never understood why people hated it because I loved his WTZ BMs he gave me.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.08.07 06:46:00 -
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I think the rage and mass quitting of this patch will be delayed until people see the effect of it in zerrro zerrro
titan online just got even more titanlicious
time to join FW and get the remote reps out
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:02:00 -
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Either WTZ or the introduction of the market skills that killed off the impossible buy orders.
In both cases people claimed they would ruin the game and drive people away. In both cases they improved the game immensely and in fact opened it up to more people. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Khrillian Edited by: Khrillian on 07/08/2008 05:08:28 Carrier nerf probably produced a lot of veteran tears, since nobody likes logistics.
I know the highway removal produced a fair share of tears, it certainly wasn't a high number (like you said because of the population increase).
I remember a lot of discussions about it but the forums weren't so vitriolic and full of tards back then.
I remember a lot of angst about the MWD/AB changes and that was quite a polite discussion as well. I remember laughing when I discovered that my Bestower went faster with a single AB than it had done with a proper sized MWD and additional smaller AB.
Happy days -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Khrillian Do you guys remember when CONCORD could be tanked?
Oh man the quantity of tears if that was still possible, with today's forums community, would beat anything thus far.
^this^. Man, I'd love for another Yulai to happen now. The forums would erupt -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Neesa Corrinne
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:34:00 -
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Warp to Zero was the apocalypse.
It was the end of EVE.
In fact, I think we're playing EVE in some sort of alternate reality at this very moment since CCP went bankrupt a few years ago after the WTZ nerf.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:50:00 -
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WT0 was insanely noisy.
WCS nerf was pretty funny. All the gate-sniping-stab-monkeys came out and shrieked holy hell.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Joey Meow Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
What was extra funny about that is that before the patch notes announced they were going to go up in price, I was already buying the BPOs for 18,000 isk and reselling them for 1m isk on escrow because they weren't visible on the market in all regions. After the patch notes lots of other people bought heaps of them, and I bought about 20m of them and still made about 2b isk profit selling them despite the fact that the price increase never went through. I just couldn't understand the tears TBH.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 07/08/2008 07:48:03
Originally by: Joss Sparq Not forgetting the low security space pirates complaining their profession was dead, either.
isn't it?
Most of what killed lowsec was when the drone regions came in and zyd/nocx/iso dropped all lowsec minerals are worth less than highsec minerals. So no one is going to go there to mine when you get the same for no risk in highsec. Lowsec belts for ratting are useless compared to missions etc. Until FW there was no real reason to go to lowsec unless you were on the way to 0.0/cap building or actively looking for a fight. And there's still no reason to go there for mining/ratting.
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Micia
Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.07 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog for pure drama and emorage.
The day the Goonies threadnaughted the entire EVE-O forums. |
SturmTurm
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:02:00 -
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Hail all old hands,
As humble noob - this thread deliversPuts every whine in the right perspective ...... regards
SturmTurm
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:11:00 -
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Nos nerf and drone nerf. Drone nerf being Dominix and Moros amongst other ships that lost its capability to launch 10 drones or more at the same time.
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog To me nothing beats the missile "nerf" for pure drama and emorage. The current one doesn't even come close as far as I'm concerned. Neither does nano.
Who's been here a while and can chime in on the history of Eve's changes/nerfs? Which one was the most overblown and far from game-killing? Keep in mind that just because there are more players and posters now, that doesn't mean it's more dramatic.
I loved how cyvock and is merry men whined to CCP change how a lone corporation could declare war on alliances .And CCP give in .
That was priceless. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ikvar
Malevolent Emo Herders
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 07/08/2008 11:23:02 Probably the insurance fiasco where all those people had their ships returned.
Edit:
The removal of mines.
The missile nerf that came in with Cold War (had great fun killing Ravens for weeks after that because half the Raven pilots were too stupid to realise anything had changed).
EW being changed to chance based rather than 'beat their sensor strength'.
The stacking nerf.
Multiple MWD/AB nerf.
Cruise in standard/torp in heavy nerf.
There are too many really.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Micia
Originally by: F'nog for pure drama and emorage.
The day the Goonies threadnaughted the entire EVE-O forums.
Goons are a microcosm of internet culture. Someone should write a book on them so the whole world knows before the same thing happens to something more important
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No one has mentioned ECM nerf? I guess because it really did kill off ECM for a while till they changed things again
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Theo Samaritan
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:27:00 -
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The original drone nerf had a fair share of moans, but the best one for me was the concord boost. ________________________ Lord WarATron:
"To do the Abaddon Hadoken, you need to do the following manover with the joypad. ↓ .... ↓→ .... → + ● |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:33:00 -
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I remember the WTZ whines, I even reference it in one of my sigs despite supporting that change. Nos, ofc. Privateers was one of my personal favourites, both its existence and ner***e. The addition of EVE-Voice caused a lot of the "I don't want it therefore it shouldn't be done/it will fail" whines we see for Ambulation now, that was fun. -
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:43:00 -
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The key to survival with sanity intact is to shake off the deafening cries of despair of those who cannot grasp the concept of an MMO being everchanging.
That being said the latest whine always ring the loudest.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.08.07 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joey Meow I cant believe I forgot the "POS Nerf" when they doubled the price of the towers... good lord, that alone made me 10 Billion ISK that year, and the whinage was massive.
Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
These would be my favourites :). I guessed at the POS change and made a killing off it. The best part was that I spotted the NPC sale prices were steadily increasing and checked the escrow default price. The escrow default price said 400m for a large tower, meaning 400m was the NPC base price but the npc market sell price was barely over 200m. Rather than selling as part of the massive post-patch rush, I waited until prices hit 340 each and made a killing :D.
I still have 100 tractor beam bpos, too :p. They're in a hanger to remind me not to make silly purchases like that :p.
Pillowsoft - Join the Pillowsoft Gallente Militia, get free ships and support. |
amarrly
Amarr Servant's of order
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog To me nothing beats the missile "nerf" for pure drama and emorage. The current one doesn't even come close as far as I'm concerned. Neither does nano.
Who's been here a while and can chime in on the history of Eve's changes/nerfs? Which one was the most overblown and far from game-killing? Keep in mind that just because there are more players and posters now, that doesn't mean it's more dramatic.
Drama, DRAMA...has everyone forgotten how many times the servers use to crash, the death threats to ccp if they didnt get the servers rebooted in the next 30 mins (i think the devs always use to say server be back up in 30 mins!!) forums use to be blazing in the good ol days, of the unstable servers
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:08:00 -
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the changes they are making wont bankrupt CCP. not at all.. Its making EVE more main stream. Buts thats a fickle crowd and those that came here for the niche game will either stay, (as they have so much invested into eve) or at somepoint think thats enough, breaking point for me.. and quit
and a new shiney game like Infinity will come along and whisk away the new fickle crowd - THEN CPP will be in trouble.
Wont be an immediate thing following such changes, but it will a result of the effects some time later. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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heheheh
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: heheheh on 07/08/2008 12:13:53 My favourite was the Warp to Zero nerf, although that did actually ruin EVEs gameplay and continues to, The privateer nerf was the worst for whining but that also ruined eve a tad imo, The most baseless one i think was the nano nerf, i heard exactly the same things said that are being said now about the speed nerf upcomming. |
Alz Shado
Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:19:00 -
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I remember a lot of people doing 0.0 logistics getting upset about the Compression nerf, when certain T1 modules could be manufactured for transport and later reprocessed to volume ratios of 5:1 up to 50:1. Passive Targeters were one of the hardest hit, though I remember several other mods simply being too big to loot from missions anymore. //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad)
"Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joey Meow I cant believe I forgot the "POS Nerf" when they doubled the price of the towers... good lord, that alone made me 10 Billion ISK that year, and the whinage was massive...
Doubled? Wasn't it more like 10 times more?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:50:00 -
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My reaction is that most so called "pvper" on this forum are more interested in seeing high sec players a have a bad time(which ussually means they quit and find a new game) than they are in seeing changes that would encourage the high sec players to venture into low sec.
Look at all the defenders of "suicide ganking" - its conceptually its horrible game play. The gankers weigh the odds and over time they make a profit - the ganked have no way to respond to the situations when they occur and end up leaving the game.
PVPers should be begging for MUCH high low sec mission rewards so the PVEers will believe the profit is worth the risk of going there. PVPers shouldnt be chanpioniong a stupid gank method like high sec suicide.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Jastra
Gallente Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.07 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jastra on 07/08/2008 12:54:02
Originally by: Ghoest My reaction is that most so called "pvper" on this forum are more interested in seeing high sec players a have a bad time(which ussually means they quit and find a new game) than they are in seeing changes that would encourage the high sec players to venture into low sec.
Look at all the defenders of "suicide ganking" - its conceptually its horrible game play. The gankers weigh the odds and over time they make a profit - the ganked have no way to respond to the situations when they occur and end up leaving the game.
PVPers should be begging for MUCH high low sec mission rewards so the PVEers will believe the profit is worth the risk of going there. PVPers shouldnt be chanpioniong a stupid gank method like high sec suicide.
this tbh, best post I've read all day
And I came in as the missile nerf happened and I recall that being very noisy :D
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.07 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest My reaction is that most so called "pvper" on this forum are more interested in seeing high sec players a have a bad time(which ussually means they quit and find a new game) than they are in seeing changes that would encourage the high sec players to venture into low sec.
Look at all the defenders of "suicide ganking" - its conceptually its horrible game play. The gankers weigh the odds and over time they make a profit - the ganked have no way to respond to the situations when they occur and end up leaving the game.
PVPers should be begging for MUCH high low sec mission rewards so the PVEers will believe the profit is worth the risk of going there. PVPers shouldnt be chanpioniong a stupid gank method like high sec suicide.
Funny how I have moved tens of billions through hi sec and never been suicde ganked. Biut then I take steps to avoid it
You can also reducde your gank risk in missions by 100 fold if you take precautions. BUT its the ones that dont want to, dont know how, or are to lazy that get ganked. THATS whats we are kicking up a stink about. Pirates are the natural selection process in EVE. You toughen up and adapt, learn to play or die.
Its this that is getting removed.
Its SO hard to gank a mission runner who takes the correct precautions. but over the 40 or so I have had a hand in libertaing, only 2 took any real steps in protecting themselfs. AND after tehy spotted us, they came back to teh mission in an eager rush to get it finihsed and lost their ships anyways. - it was greed for that sec gain that got em.
I have seen a good few we ~COULDNT get, as they used the scanner, back scouts, and can drops to spot our gang, scouts etc - and gtfo as soon as it seemed fishy.
Most people piping up have never ganked or been ganked and enjoy reguritating other peoples tripe.
Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.07 13:02:00 -
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Que the adapt or die quote without reading the rest of teh post..... Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Laae Aenus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.07 13:14:00 -
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sorted, your tears are the sweetest. :') I don't think anyone took this so personally besides you. It's so cute.
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Aarin Wrath
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Posted - 2008.08.07 13:38:00 -
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For me ... gotta be: Warp to zero
If the forum whiners were to be belived, eve should now be dead and gone. Piracy is dead ... PVP is dead, etc.. etc.. blah blah blah.
It wasen't just the pirates emo rage quitting though ... omg the bookmark sellers cried emo tears of pain on the forums too.
I laughed ...
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Joey Meow I cant believe I forgot the "POS Nerf" when they doubled the price of the towers... good lord, that alone made me 10 Billion ISK that year, and the whinage was massive...
Doubled? Wasn't it more like 10 times more?
They were doubled overnight and then npc prices increased slowly up to around four times their original value.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 03:58:00 -
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Hey, this isn't a thread for current changes, but past ones. There's plenty of places to moan and whine about how the current ones are destroying Eve. Far too many if you ask me.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Captain Porter
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Posted - 2008.08.08 04:27:00 -
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I think the Drone Bandwidth followed by NOS.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Porter I think the Drone Bandwidth followed by NOS.
I don't think those two even come close to some of the ones mentioned here.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.08 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Joey Meow I cant believe I forgot the "POS Nerf" when they doubled the price of the towers... good lord, that alone made me 10 Billion ISK that year, and the whinage was massive...
Doubled? Wasn't it more like 10 times more?
They were doubled overnight and then npc prices increased slowly up to around four times their original value.
That's it then, the worst change ever. Some were in the know and stocked up, the rest of us was in the dark and suffered since.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 06:04:00 -
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Edited by: Joss Sparq on 08/08/2008 06:05:16
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Joss Sparq "Warp to Zero will destroy EVE and propagate erectile dysfunction."
It has. I go limp every time another target warps to 0km and runs along on it's merry way, invulnerable to every thing and every one.
All I'm going to say is that I think you're doing it wrong.
(I also have to slightly question your forming an erection in that scenario )
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Kaianna Sela
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 06:17:00 -
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The first Thorax nerfed when they tried to take away it's 8 heavy drones :D
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:07:00 -
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Torp nerf
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar Torp nerf
Which one? And all have boosted them.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Troyd23
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Posted - 2008.08.08 07:50:00 -
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upcoming suicide ganking nerf
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Robert Rosenberg
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:36:00 -
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First, the legitimate whinage where it generated a ton of tears which I feel are justified...
Privateers Nerf Warp To Zero (Should have been Warp to 5) Mission Scanning Nerf
And now the ones that just generated hilarious tears that wre compeltely unjustified
Bandwidth (although the Myrm got it a little too hard) Torpedo Mk. II Both nano nerfs RSD/ECM nerf
And the ultimate being insurance nerf! Oh my goodness the insurance nerf is already the best patch since I started playing.
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SARPIDON
Revival.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Joey Meow
Originally by: Joss Sparq
Originally by: Joey Meow Oh, and the unfulfilled "Small Tractor Beam BPO" nerf, where some bought millions worth of BPOs and CCP did no increase the price, and then there were tears.
I think I once saw a compilation of screen captures of the Dev blog and EVE-O forums from back then that showed someone notorious, like I don't know, Ginger Magician (?) - having bought them up in massive amounts, only to discover they had been completely shafted.
You know, I was being discreet about the the Ginger thing, and now you had to go and out him again, to those who do not know a thing about him.
It was hilarious though...
BM nerf was pure drama, but for shitz and giggles the small Tractor beam BPO buy up was unrivaled - I think I even bought a few...
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Aikanaro
Gallente Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:45:00 -
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Was really ****ed when they removed the abilty to fit mwd/ab at the same time, sure was awesome to go 90km/sec.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.08 08:52:00 -
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I will confess that I over-reacted during the big drone change when the Arbitrator went from being able to deploy fifteen drones down to only five.
I made a big fuss, and I was wrong
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kretin Arnon
Amarr Path of the Immortals
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Posted - 2008.08.08 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake I will confess that I over-reacted during the big drone change when the Arbitrator went from being able to deploy fifteen drones down to only five.
I made a big fuss, and I was wrong
Happens to many but few admit it.
It was really never bothered by any of the "major" nerfs as I have always played EVE in a way as far of the beaten path as possible, so my biggest personal issues was when system security levels got changed from truncating to rounding and made some important 0.4 systems into 0.5. And of course I got royally ****ed when the Blood Raider stations got moved to Delve.
Just imagine if some of the old disasters/nerfs would be implemented today. The emorage would reach new unimaginable heights. +--------------------------+ For now I sleep and watch |
NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.08.08 10:31:00 -
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i think the carrier nerf scre-emo moments made me laugh, oir maybe when you stoped being able to fit any size missile in any size launcher.
Neotheo Dark Materials
Linkage
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Violent Desire
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.09.30 01:39:00 -
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For me, I remember the drone nerf when drone capacity was dropped significantly. That raised a few eyebrows but in the long run worked well. Same with missiles as mentioned earlier.
Another big change which took adjusting too was the introduction of NPC interceptors with warp disruptors and the like. A lot of people lost a lot of money out in 0.0 as it required a rethink on NPC farming. Rethink being that you couldn't just snipe them from afar anymore and you had to consider both close combat and long/medium range.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.30 01:53:00 -
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Every time I think of the insurance nerf I laugh. Im sure 70% of these "great" nerfs that have hit eve are the result of people who cant think for themselves doing the same thing the smart players do (though, not smart enough to keep their tricks a secret), forcing the devs hands. Seriously if suicide ganking wasnt so common the devs wouldnt do a thing about it. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Berious
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.30 01:54:00 -
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Funny I remember WTZ being fairly balanced in terms of whinage. For every doomsayer beating his chest and proclaiming the end of Eve there was another guy dancing in the street singing "Hallelujah the end of instas"
Missile nerf was overwhelmingly whiney, probably due to Caldari population imbalance and the length of time they had been ridiculous. It was the perfect storm of nerf whines.
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Berious
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.30 01:59:00 -
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Oh noes just noticed the necro
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.30 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 07/08/2008 07:48:03
Originally by: Joss Sparq Not forgetting the low security space pirates complaining their profession was dead, either.
isn't it?
The whiners aren't always wrong :(
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.30 02:28:00 -
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I was highly amused by the whole T20 epic storyline arc even though that wasn't technically a 'change'.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Alexi Borizkova
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.09.30 04:18:00 -
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Market nerf.
You went from having an effectively limitless amount of active market orders to a new system that required training all of these "skills", and never let you get back what you lost.
This was back when the mantra was "ccp breaks your legs, then gives you a crutches skill to make up for it."
Now you can remotely buy and sell, and the market is overall better, but this one sure ****ed me off back in the day, since most of my cash was made then by selling frigs and mods in starter systems. |
Pilot Abilene
Caldari Serpentine Dream Theory
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Posted - 2008.09.30 05:53:00 -
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Meh, nerfs don't really exist...nerfs are just re balancing issues that don't suit a certain group of players play style so they scream NERF! ...with lots of tears of course for the added over dramatic "world is ending" effect.
The people who do scream NERF! fail at understanding the whole MMO concept anyway. That being, these are persistent worlds that are continually evolving and changing as the years go by and with out game changes and re balancing they would stagnate and die. Sure they don't always work out the best for some of us but there is always a new way of doing something...that's what I love about the freedom of EVE and you really have no reason to cry about anything considering all the options available to you in this game.
If you can't move with the times and adapt to game changes you really should stick to single player games
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.09.30 06:58:00 -
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Friday Petition Nerf
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Julius Rigel
House Rigel
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Posted - 2008.09.30 07:51:00 -
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We need a "Lowest whine/severity ratio" thread as well! I submit the first nerf; Helios model nerf!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.09.30 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: KISOGOKU hate from a BM maker ?No they did an amazing job actually i like them .I think ppl without clue can say something like it ,if you had been try copy a region you had been gratefull to Bm sellers
Originally by: Schalac I never understood why people hated it because I loved his WTZ BMs he gave me.
The problem was rather than people used the system to their advantage. When I was new in EVE autumn 2005 I struggled to make a living. Was doing learning training and with the low sp we had (and me living in low sec might've added to it :D) I started off by mixing learning training with covert ops training. I sent off setting up alot of bm's.
..but, and here's the key; 95% of the BM's I sold was flukes. I kept the good BM's and gave to my friends, the BM's I sold on the open market was in most cases leading to the nub station system I started in.
It was just way too easy to bookmark scam people, for a new player that beat hauling to whining miners or trying to make a low sec living with no sp.
WTZ was pretty good, it killed my business but I'm happy we got it. |
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Kostantin Mort
Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:01:00 -
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For me it was the pulse nerf. I kicked up a real fuss about that one because at the time I thought it wrecked small pulse lasers just because the big ones were overpowered. I have to admit I was wrong :P ------ Innovation is a product of madness. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pilot Abilene Meh, nerfs don't really exist...nerfs are just re balancing issues that don't suit a certain group of players play style so they scream NERF! ...with lots of tears of course for the added over dramatic "world is ending" effect.
Uh, no, a nerf is a change which makes something worse/weaker. Contrast with buff. -
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SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:20:00 -
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the killing of low sec piracy
people cried and cried for safer lowsec access. there were long empassioned pleas about how some adjustments to game mechanics would allow lowsec to flourish and become a jump off point .
they did it and everybody's still doing lvl 4's in high sec .
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
As for the topic of this old thread, one nerf which didn't get much drama was the necroing nerf.
I see what you did there.
But, yay, my thread lives again, if only briefly.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Deimi
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Posted - 2008.09.30 11:54:00 -
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Warp to zero. Yes one that I disliked and still will dislike together with a number of others.
The one with missiles made me post with the main. So it had to be one I thought of major importance.
As for the multi WMD nerf I did care less about that one myself but it was entertainment to watch the protests. Yes it was cool to have fast ships, but not critical for my kind of gameplay.
And as a sidenote, I really wish CCP do fine and keep us going here for years to come. But now we been here for 1 year in beta and 5 years of actual released game. Have they not learned by now not to wreck havoc with a working game? I could make some examples from elsewhere, the nerf that killed a game entirely. No we all know that CCP have not made such a mistake. But they have made many small ones, the result is not a major part of the player base leave at once. Instead it have been less obvious, with disgruntled players leaving in smaller numbers but over a longer stretch of time. The result of those mistakes are obvious every time we log in, with a population that could have been far larger. (And not only in Jita. Lol!)
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Posted - 2008.09.30 12:18:00 -
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In order:
Carrier nerf threat Nano nerf threat Suicide nerf Shield nerf Nos nerf Torp nerf
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Ooyama
Caldari Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2008.09.30 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
Warp To Zero (Should have been Warp to 5) Bandwidth (although the Myrm got it a little too hard) Torpedo Mk. II
QFT,, good ones !!
"Yama".
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