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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:43:55 Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:42:26 I hate the proposed changes to Stasis Webifiers. You'll see more ***** pilots being able to get back to a gate and jump out of a pvp situation.
quote from the dev blog*
"Webifiers Currently when youÆre webbed itÆs pretty much game over unless youÆre doing more DPS or have a better tank. The 90% speed reduction makes combat too static and predictable when webifiers have been applied. To address this, webifiers in our proposed changes have been reduced in effectiveness down to between -50% and -60%."
Don't nerf webifiers, if you are in a pvp situation, and get yourself webbed, you deserve to be slowed down to -90% speed reduction. This is going to make minmatar recons an even more essential ship to pvp gangs than it is now.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:44:00 -
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Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:45:00 -
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Make webbers racial like jammers with better skills getting more range and higher velocity modifiers.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp? [/url] |
Captain Bringdown
Minmatar Rage Against the Answering Machine
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Bringdown on 25/07/2008 16:45:56
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
fit a 2nd webber
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
Have you ever tried to play a strategy game with one unit?
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:46:00 -
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well its to balance against the reduced MWD.
I dont see anything wrong with it.
They recently nerfed most Ewar to make you use 2 for the same effect, so now use 2 Webs eh?
2 60% webs work out to about 85% reduction
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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
EvE is a MULTIPLAYER GAME! You wanna play solo? Play Freespace, not EvE
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
Have you ever tried to play a strategy game with one unit?
this isnt an rts [/url] |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
Have you ever tried to play a strategy game with one unit?
this isnt an rts
Yes it is. Most people just dont realize it.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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TheG2
Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2008.07.25 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Yes it is. Most people just dont realize it.
QFT
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lothris Andastar
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tamia Clant Well, the upcoming balance changes encourage larger gangs, so you'll have plenty of webs to go around in your gang.
Why should i be forced into a large gang if i like to solo pvp or be in small gang pvp?
EvE is a MULTIPLAYER GAME! You wanna play solo? Play Freespace, not EvE
regardless if i want to play solo or not, i don't want wimps escaping their fate if they are stupid enough to jump into a trap at a gate. [/url] |
Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:03:00 -
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Tears. Contract. Get to it. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Tears. Contract. Get to it.
after looking at your corps craptastic stats, i can see why you would be all for the web nerf. [/url] |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:08:00 -
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Webifier problems? I shoot, things blow up, no problem! Why slow down when you can stop, hammer time!
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Don't nerf webifiers, if you are in a pvp situation, and get yourself webbed, you deserve to be slowed down to -90% speed reduction.
This is completely stupid.
Some ships rely on webrange fighting. Should they be penalized because there's a broken module which removes 90% (or leaves you with 1/10th) of your speed?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:20:00 -
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Advanced webbing skill, rank 10+ with longer range.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lothris Andastar EvE is a MULTIPLAYER GAME! You wanna play solo? Play Freespace, not EvE
Yeah, we don't want different styles of play, conform to CCP's vision of blobs online like everyone else!
However, I like the webber nerf. Automatically forfeiting 90% of your speed because you are within Xkm of another ship is and always has been stupid. -
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 25/07/2008 17:24:29
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar
Originally by: Tarminic Tears. Contract. Get to it.
after looking at your corps craptastic stats, i can see why you would be all for the web nerf.
My e-peen, you have made it flacid. What ever will I do?
Oh wait, I have a real wang too! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.07.25 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Tears. Contract. Get to it.
Ironically also by tarmanic today
Originally by: Tarminic
The majority of the EVE community has been incapable of reasonable discussion for some time now.
SKUNK
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Tarminic Tears. Contract. Get to it.
Ironically also by tarmanic today
Originally by: Tarminic
The majority of the EVE community has been incapable of reasonable discussion for some time now.
SKUNK
I never said "The majority of the EVE community has been incapable of reasonable discussion for some time now EXCEPT FOR ME LOLOLOLOLO!!!" ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:18:00 -
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welp thought about it a bit. i like to solo in a blasterthron but if i have to fit two webs i suppose a hyperion with its extra mids is more of a viable option now. [/url] |
Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:43:55 Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:42:26 I hate the proposed changes to Stasis Webifiers. You'll see more ***** pilots being able to get back to a gate and jump out of a pvp situation.
yes, because gatecamping killing indies and noobie pilots is real pvp and so not ***** at all .
Welcome to Eve, where you earn your kills. Isn't Eve cruel and harsh?
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:43:55 Edited by: Dizeezer Velar on 25/07/2008 16:42:26 I hate the proposed changes to Stasis Webifiers. You'll see more ***** pilots being able to get back to a gate and jump out of a pvp situation.
yes, because gatecamping killing indies and noobie pilots is real pvp and so not ***** at all .
Welcome to Eve, where you earn your kills. Isn't Eve cruel and harsh?
Wherever did i say or do my BC stats say that i kill indies and noobs? Research before you speak perhaps? [/url] |
Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 25/07/2008 18:55:10
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Wherever did i say or do my BC stats say that i kill indies and noobs? Research before you speak perhaps?
Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, (nice blob on this one, by the way ) here.
Ah **** it. Can't be assed to link them all. Enjoy!
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ZW Dewitt
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:55:00 -
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I forsee flying a ton of AB rifters after this patch... and loving it!
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar Wherever did i say or do my BC stats say that i kill indies and noobs? Research before you speak perhaps?
Here, here, here, here, here, here, here, (nice blob on this one, by the way ) here,
can't be assed to link them all. enjoy!
mhmm, and for every one of those kills i can find 2-3 solo bs kills. [/url] |
Sid Zero
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:55:00 -
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Waaaaiiiiit a second...
I'm starting to like these changes...
Is it me or is this a possible gatecamp nerf?
It seems like fitting an AB over a MWD might result in an increased likelyhood of escaping a gatecamp.
(Unless of course the blobs simply get bigger and fit more webs )
This would mean a tradeoff between survivability and offensive capability, which makes a lot of sense.
Will have to test on monday to be sure.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.25 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye
yes, because gatecamping killing indies and noobie pilots is real pvp and so not ***** at all .
But indies explode in seconds as industrials don't tank a few thousand DPS very long, and noobie pilots also die anyway, so nothing will really change in that respect and I still get my ISK for gatecamping the same way I used to. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Chooch Chooch
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Posted - 2008.07.25 19:00:00 -
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I love it. Thank you CCP for listening to all of those complaints in regards to Nano ships. Rather than increase the range and effect of webifiers to offset the Nano's you nerf the webbers to help the Nano's. This once again proves the theory that most Devs are Nano pilots themselves. Hey is it possible you can give me a mod that will get me 99.9% resists across the board to make it equal on my Astarte?
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